Broke my Fast Wrong. What to do? 
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I recently completed a 13 day water only fast and ended up breaking the fast to a healthy helping of iHop pancakes, southwest omelet, hash browns and toast. I felt terrible afterwards and had to throw it up because my stomach was in so much pain! Just a week before I had finished my first water fast, had lost just over 20 pounds and went wild for 5-6 days eating everything I had fantasized about during the fast. Before I knew it I gained back the weight I had just lost. So I tried again and for the first two days post breaking I cheated then I began eating watery fruits and salads but my stomach is still irritated so I began doing more research for post fast eating and apparently I'm doing it all wrong. I've read I should be breaking with fresh juice/water mix for few days than fruits/vegetables and may take up to 15 days to eat reg. And digest animal protein.
Here's the question, it haseems been 4 days since I broke my fast, have I spoiled the benefits of the fast by breaking it wrong? If I begin the juice/water mix for a few days then fruit/veg plan will that save/boost my metabolism or will I have to start all over again and break it correctly?
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- Re: Broke my Fast Wrong. What to do? legolas
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This is a reply to # 2,307,816Although I broke my first fast gradually I was a bit too quick with it and jumped on heavy fatty and dry foods too quickly. I was also very greedy, stuffed super huge portions into myself. My bowel movements were probably still too weak or perhaps my gut bacteria hasn't grown back. The result was clogged bowels, a lot of stomach pain due to a lot of blocked gas iand sitting on the toilet for two days to give birth to the contents of my belly.
What I've done is jumping back to juicing and yoghurt that partially helped me but someone else might be able to give you even better advices to flush or to manage this in a different way.
The end of a fast is a wonderful period where even the simplest food (a piece of watery vegetable) is super delicious. I think it is worth living with the chance and enjoy this by ramping up slowly on the ladder towards the more complex foods.
It's also a good practice to pair refeeding with physical exercises and keeping it as a regular habit. Otherwise you you gain back only fat. With fasting you lose fat, and also some muscle. If you gain back the same weight without exercising than most of that weigh will probably be fat so you might end up with worse body fat percentage than what you had before fasting.
- Re: Broke my Fast Wrong. What to do? archus
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This is a reply to # 2,307,816Fastingmandy66,
We all have made this error in the beginning. Just take this experience consider it a lesson learned.
All new fasters should first read how to break a fast prior to starting a fast.
Most of us have a wrong idea what food is. Most people think that once they eat fruits and vegetables for a few weeks, after a fast, they can go back to eating normal foods, which in my dictionary are hardly even foods. All processed foods are not helping your body at all, it actually gives you very little nutrition and robs your body of other enzymes and minerals.
Animal protein is a myth that we live with, ask a question what does an elephant the biggest animal on the planet eats? Leaves is the answer. How does the big body get the protein? From the leaves obviously. The elephant (All herbivores) and the humans have grinding teeth called molars to grind down the fiber from plant foods. So eat plant based foods and you shall see the wonders.
No, the fast had its benefits alright, but by eating junk from iHop you have put your body into a toxic mode for it to work harder to digest the foods and clean the toxic load.
Your idea of staying on fresh fruits, freshly squeezed juices (not from supermarket) and raw vegetables is a good one. But many of us eat that way everyday. Then after a few weeks you can eat nuts and seeds for some good protein. Legumes and sprouts also will give you good protein.
After a month or so you can fast again f you wish. You will also benefit from a liver flush.
Peace.
Archus
- Re: Broke my Fast Wrong. What to do? legolas
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This is a reply to # 2,307,901Although I eat very little meat I think the body can benefit tremendously from it. By eating meat only 1-2 times a week I don't experience side effects of meat-heavy diets (difficult digestion, rotten poo). Sometimes I just naturally crave for some fish, liver or something similar and then I eat it. Being a huge egg fan probably helps me a lot in keeping my weekly meat portions between 0-2.
An elephant is an elephant and a human is a human. We don't exactly know how their and our bodies work chemically but we know that they are obviously different. Meat has always been part of our diet so the human body is quite good at dealing with it although I agree that people are overeating it. On the other hand meat and other animal products aren't only about protein, they contain quite a lot of chemicals that are very difficult to get from other sources. A few years ago I was researching vegan diet and it is extremely difficult to create a "balanced" diet, I actually failed to do so and most people would probably do so. Even if it's possible, it probably isn't affordable (time and money) for most people given the current circumstances in our world. I love vegan dishes but they would become very boring for me if I had to watch for full protein content and stuff like that. Eating eggs and some animal products saves me from that.
I think a fast can be completely and correctly broken in a few days but large portions should be avoided and heavy complex foods (other than juices, yoghurt, light fruits/veggies, etc) should be introduced only after having correct bowel movements.
Everyone should read how to break a fast but there is no official source. People collect info from a lot of random sources and combine them with their own experience.
I like the guidelines of this page: http://www.allaboutfasting.com/breaking-a-fast.html
Another important thing to consider in case of long term fast (3-4+ weeks) is that quick bulk refeeding can be lethal.
- Animal food equal Myth DesertLili
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This is a reply to # 2,307,971Hi Legolas, I like some parts of your post.
But
Animal protein = Myth with obvious and hidden problems ... I am convinced vegan is cheaper than buying animal source food. Most often than not animal prod. is one (rather major) of things separating you from true health.
If the issue is boredom - I'd say you did not really want to make it exciting. There are many sources that are vegan and are complete protein - spirulina, amaranth, buckwheat to name a few and they are cheaper per protein content percentage compared to animal source.
Spirulina for example is 70% protein when you buy it in powder. The rest is minerals, vitamins and microelements. No fat.- Re: Animal food equal Myth legolas
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This is a reply to # 2,308,106These things were completely inaccessible or expensive to import where I lived a few years ago and I would still insist that keeping an acceptably balanced vegan diet is more difficult than occasionally supplementing with animal products. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I'm just lazy to distribute energy to this part of my life.
At least 70-80% of my diet is vegan and the rest (animal products) comes from clean sources and consists mostly from eggs, fish, and some cheese/chicken/beef/pork. I'm quite happy with it this way. My problem is absolutely not boredom. It is possible to create endless variations of vegan dishes. After several days of research I've found no reliable source for well tested vegetarian or vegan diet and to be honest I thought it over and see no reason to go full vegetarian at the moment.
Changing a huge part of my diet to vegan was a really good choice for many reasons. It happens sometimes that I naturally crave only plant based foods for weeks but after some time I need something else otherwise I become fatigued and weak.
I know about many reasons behind being vegan/vegetarian: cow fart, cruelty, some elderly weak people feel good only on vegan diet but these still don't exceed my threshold to go full vegan or vegetarian. I could probably go without meat by eating only eggs and maybe some dairy, but I see no strong enough reasons.- Re: Animal food equal Myth Beesvees
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This is a reply to # 2,308,122I was glad to see your post.
Physician Terry Wahls discusses in her TED talk and the Wahls Protocol (developed in an attempt to alleviate her MS symptoms) the healing benefits gained when she added animal products back into her life after years of vegetarianism.
I don't function well with vegan and I purposefully choose the source of my animal products.
- Re: Animal food equal Myth legolas
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This is a reply to # 2,308,239I think animal products are proved to work if used well. Other negative aspects like cow fart and cruelty have a completely different reason in my opinion. I'm above animals in the food chain, it's natural to eat some meat sometimes. Killing and a certain degree of cruelty for nutrition is natural. If you throw a piece of nut on the ground, the cute squirrels beat each other's up for it. I think the real problem is overpopulation, humans spread Earth like a virus or cancer. This is why we have so many cows and so much fart, and this is why we keep and "grow" a lot of animals under cruel circumstances. I eat much less meat than average and fortunately I can afford higher prices so I buy my things from a huge chicken farm and a pig farm where pigs are wondering outside in the bushes and the forest living a chemical free normal lifespan. This is good for my health and I'm also glad to invest in a somewhat better life for these animals.
- Re: Animal food equal Myth legolas
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- Re: Animal food equal Myth Beesvees
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- insights - take or leave DesertLili
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This is a reply to # 2,308,106Yeah, I will not push vegan agenda, though I felt compelled to clarify certain points, which I have experience with. You do what you can and want :)
To all fairness Lentil + rice (and many other combo's) also add up to complete protein and many Indian people have thrived on such combo's for centuries. Not to mention one doesn't really need to get all amnio- all together at particular moment, since the liver and the rest of the cells store them and protein is synthesized from stored amino-acids - not form the amino-acids that your digestive system digests from protein at that particular moment.
It is not a question of being elderly or not. I am pretty young, but just tolerate animal protein - it is fatiguing and irritating to my system. As an example - the youngest - infants and toddlers usually show sensitivity toward (non-mother) animal protein through allergies, eczema, constipation, colics, mucus-y excretions etc, but the pediatricians are not trained to recognize these come from animal food (and or other toxicities). Animal food contain besides the toxicities animal hormones (adrenaline, N-Adrenaline, cortisol, growth hormone - natural and more often synthetic, test., estrogens more than test., prolactine, etc.) which come to interfere with your own hormones.
I will leave it at that. I was just pondering on some of your previous msgs on mood, hormones etc and felt a duty to give some insights. Take them or leave them - it is your choice.- Re: insights - take or leave legolas
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This is a reply to # 2,308,145I totally agree that meaty food is heavy. There is a reason that I replaced huge huge portion of my diet with vegan. When I was researching vegan I've found the rice+beans combo but that was the only one. It's actually a very good one that I like, can be a base for a lot of different kinds of vegan or non-vegan burritos. :-) I'm not concerned about protein, rather about things like b12, Colin, (possibly some other things we don't even know about) etc that I get effortlessly by eating eggs and some animal derived foods without counting whether I ate enough this or that.
Later I may revise my standpoint but at the moment I think there are a lot of other things to tune. For example escaping full time office work and being able to live a physically more active life would have a much greater effect on my life than fine-tuning my diet to remove the remaining animal products and junk. I was raised on the countyside where people lived on diets with 50+% animal (pork, chicken) products (with a lot of bacon and pancetta in everything!!!) Still, it was not uncommon to see 50-70 years old healthy men with the strength of a bull. I think the reason is physical activity. It may be bullshit, but I suspect that my body is much less tolerant to heavy nutrition without physical activity. When I was doing heavy agricultural work I could eat clean white deep fried meat-less pancetta (yes, imagine a huge 20x20x5cm meatless very fatty pancetta) with onion and bread and it was nothing, disappeared in me and I had a very lean body with about 10% fat.
Partly this, and partly some other reasons make me think that the next big step for me should be unchaining myself from modern "life"-style if at all we can call it "life".
I usually follow the Pareto principle (80/20). In case of my diet I've done my job. Investing a lot of effort to fine-tune the rest wouldn't be as beneficial as investing the same amount of energy to improve other things with greater returns.
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- Animal food equal Myth DesertLili
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