Posted a post in response to that loquat1 hacker guy over at the end of the first half of the thread, if you're curious.

And a response I wrote to someone who asked why I was banned from All Debate Forums :

"Indeed, why?

But again if he's trying to stop any debate about any topic from me--as I've noted, it'd be a reason. Really, if I didn't already know what I've learned about everything is real; the pharmaceutical cartel, the 'elite' owned government and all their false flags and media's constant made up and brainwashing 'news' and 'entertainment', the El-*th being here and helping us, etc., this would just serve as another example of them trying to quiet me.

I mean if they attack me about that other stuff as badly as they attack me about zappers, why?

And they been attacking me for years about the spirit stuff, long before the zapper.

If it wasn't real suppressed info, they'd just write me off dismissively as some old crazy cat lady, if they bothered at all. Not keep coming back to try to discredit, refute and deny what I'm saying.

I'm sure that loquat1 guy was sent to try and 'prove' I was crazy or whatever, and reprogram any who might start questioning their 'faith'.

Then when that failed, he tried to hack me, twice. I've been hacked so often (again why?) I recognized it and stopped it before any damage was done.

Blah. Why would they bother, if I'm just some dotty old lady?"

Probably all for today here, but not out there. Maybe I'll see you there.

Still on hold with the banning--either I'll just be gone one day, or the bans will be lifted. The overarching sentience is not telling me how it will go.

I'm getting the lightening struck fence gave some serious pause to that curezone guy, but I don't know if it was enough. Perhaps he's waiting for his 'god's' demonstration? Guess we'll find out. *sigh*.

020416 Hum, I'm being told the the loquat hacker guy is still blaming me for his misfortunes.

And really what woman would put up with all that manipulative crap all the time. Although it appears he did have a trophy wife for a short bit that pretty well fleeced him on the way out. And his grandma died in '06. His mom, in not so good health is alive. Celeste says mom won't be involved in future consequences because she is pretty fragile, nor his cat. She'll not bother her computer either.

Anyway he seems to think the over arching sentience is some sort of pet monkey on a leash I control. Wow. As if. Sometimes she tells me what's she's going to do, if she wants me to warn some one, but she does what she wants. I can sway her sometimes, like in asking her to avoid another Sodom and Gomorrah, because it could completely backfire.

And she sometimes asks my opinion about which method I think might be more effective, calling on my education since no other species has ever gotten so much psychology stuff figured out, not even them, and I'll explore it with her, from a psychological perspective, and then she goes off and decides. But that's it.

It is my pleasure to serve at her behest. I'm not a captive or slave to her, but a willing partner, as much as a human can be a partner to one of the most powerful beings in the universe. I'd sure hate to get on the wrong side of that. :(

So by morning, I've continued to have flare ups of the itching. Luckily not the lung stuff. It's stayed gone, and other than a tickle occasionally (none today) it's good.

The itching though--it just kept coming back and not seeming to heal. I know Celeste is protecting me, so this had to be some residual stuff somehow. I dug around, trying to figure it out. This stuff was quite annoying.

So here's what I figured out. Zen, and the blues had put a sticky kind of energy that clings to stuff, like my towel or washcloth, underwear and pants and every time I used or wore them, it put the energy back on me, even though they had been washed, and I'd cleared the energy on me.

Or if I scratched myself, even in the shower, it would get on my hand and spread it that way, so most anything I touched. And it stayed until I tapped to remove it. Washing with soap and water did nothing. Otherwise it'll stay on the skin, or whatever like a nasty bacteria, ready to strike again.

Then there was a layer that was set to start the itching at random intervals, which didn't get removed unless specifically addressed because it was a slightly different version. Then I found he even put it in the water tank, so using the water spread it back on, although that way was pretty diluted. If that'd have been the only source, I might not have noticed it for awhile.

Then he put in energy that didn't attack me but prevented the area from healing and also some energy that was coated with an energy to prevent it from being removed unless you removed that other energy first. I couldn't believe the layer upon layer. I'm pretty sure I've forgotten one or two.

I, in disbelief, started wondering how in heck he knew how to do all that. When a little clip popped into my mind's eye. It showed him doing this to the other elves for a very long time, getting quite proficient, and using it on both the high and regular elves, but only the regular elves realized it. It was one of the reasons they avoided upsetting him, because he did work with energy with a stronger ability than most of them could.

He had been very careful to be super subtle with the high elves, but he really enjoyed watching them squirm as the energy took effect. I also asked, and yes, he had used it on defenseless humans before too. Almost as much of a crime as attacking the high El-*th, depending on what was done. All and all this asshat was bad, bad, bad.

I told master Hambreth what I'd discovered (as he was here helping me heal the damage from the attack) he was quite shocked, and we went over to the king immediately. Then I found out why Zen had been sooo careful with doing it to the high El-*th. It was a death penalty/life reset for attacking them with energy---didn't matter that it wasn't meant to kill, just that it was done. The king did not look happy---pretty shocked himself at Zen's audacity.

I sorta got pulled along to where Zen was being held, and the king pulled him out of the punishment cocoon. He didn't ask any question, just read his mind (criminal prosecution allows that, but only for evidence of the crime) and had several others also do that, to verify the memories of Zen's misbehavior.

After getting the nod from the other examiners who also found those memories, he sentenced both Zen and his mother (He'd sent a msg to have her memories read, and they found she taught him this and had been doing the same thing even longer) to death with a month of Torment first. I'm thinking that means it's more than a a month of uncomfortable itching.

I looked around and saw the spirits of the regular El-*th looking on. They've had Zen's anti-oracle/dragon rider rhetoric dumped on them this whole time, so they were looking a bit angry.

It hit me that they might blame me (again), as the whistle blower. So I did some questions--asking did they see this as a results of Zen's bad behavior, or was it somehow my fault for realizing and reporting it, pointing out the self healing/self protection I was doing, when this information just popped out.

Put like that, they appeared to decide 'hum, maybe since she was only protecting herself and found out about it, not deliberately looking for something that she can use to get revenge with (a motive often a problem with them, I'm hearing)....'. I wanted them to know I wasn't out to 'get' him, but that the information was just too shocking not to share.

The king had been thinking at the same time. He said this kind of behavior was unacceptable, and obviously there might be a bigger problem involved. He needed to address it. He then made a decreed (so rarely done) all El-*th will be scanned/screened for doing this kind of behavior, and if guilty, depending on their victim's wishes, they will suffer some recompense torment, and that they would accept any EFT sessions for healing the emotional foundation behind their desire to use it. He's finding how helpful EFT actually is, also.

He noted the high El-*th would also be required to be scanned/screened. He asked the regular el-*th spirits there in attendance, if they realized this wasn't about punishment or revenge or just because he said so, but about helping them deal with a bad behavior which was very anti-sentient and wrongly hurtful. They shook their heads and agreed, yes they realized that.

Interesting, and to think I don't have to even leave my chair, and still get all these huge learning opportunities! Blah. I'm ready for summer vacation.

The overarching sentience wants to let you new 'employees' know if you walk away before your misinformation, misdirection, or denial of protocols/devices that work actually kills any one, you won't be held accountable and arrested.

Might wanna pack it up, but of course you're free to stay and be a criminal if you want. You can always come over to the unowned side. Since neither side will be paying you, it's better to do good. :)

So , a quiet day, finally. I cleared out most all of the attack energy last night. Found more that got activated when it was scratched. Found shielded attack energy that wasn't removable until you took the shield energy off first, and another that was also shielded to keep the itching going even if the energy was removed, so you had to take off the shielding first, stop the itching and then remove it, otherwise it just kept itching.

Plus he blocked the circulation to my left foot, making it swell up and be quite uncomfortable in the brace I still have to wear. And a couple more things specifically focused on my issues.

Obviously, he spent a lot of time figuring his attack out. I suppose I should be flattered he thought me important enough to go after. Blah. But it's definitely convinced me, at a gut level (not just knowing in my head) this spirit realm stuff is very real.

EFT only stops what you tap for. without the 'right' reason it won't 'work'. It had stopped working for my tapping it as detox. Which is when I started thinking if this wasn't detoxing, what then? After I figured out it was an energy attack and tapped for that, the 'symptoms' immediately lessened and the lung stuff started settling down quickly, too, for the first time. Although it started again because of the latent attack energy and so on.

And only tapping it as attack energy helps at all. So it has to be an energy attack, and the only some one who would (or could, even) do something like that and hated me like that was that Zen person aka the El-*th really are real, not just my imagination.

Real enough to pull off this level of attack. Even my sweetie has to admit it seems to be so. He hates to admit anything of this might actually be real because it means he's got some serious rethinking about his beliefs to do.

Am not feeling led to address anything today. But it seems there are a lot less puppet shows going on. Progress, that. :)

Keeping the positive flow going. My post in parasites Forum today.

"So much confusion on here about zappers and zapping in general.

I started zapping 15 years ago, shortly after I found CureZone where Dr. Clark was highly recommended and her zapper, which was part of her protocol was considered leading tech in the energy healing field.

I downloaded her book here for free as it should be. She refused to copyrite it so it could be distributed as far and wide as possible.

She firmly believed people really needed to know the parasites and toxins and start dealing with it, saving their lives. She didn't want cost to be a factor as they tried to get well.

She gave complete directions and schematics to build a zapper even, instead of patenting it. She really wanted to help humanity get well again.

She also discussed why she knew what the real problem was because she was using a sycrometer, a device that measures frequencies of stuff and will resonate when a matching frequency was found to the sample slide in the body and even where, everything from parasites to toxins. She gives the directions and schematics for building one of those too, so you could test for stuff yourself.

I got one of those too, and while it sounds like the tech's been improved and the test slides for stuff could be gotten now via imprinted bottles of a set frequency, when I was trying to learn, you had to go get samples of dead parasites, organs, toxins, etc.

It ended up more a chore than I wanted to do (I did get it working on bottled water and a couple toxins like gas, I could add, and was able to accurately identify which toxin was in the water or if it was clean), and at that point I decided, since it was doable with water to my satisfaction, that it worked, and decided To trust Dr. Clark's findings

Her son invented the zapper and they figured out how it use it most effectively. Which is why it seems crazy to me that soo many here have taken the zapper out of the protocol and are just treating it like a separate thing/toy---not even learning to use it, and then blaming the zapper for 'not working'. It's like blaming your car for not starting because you never bothered to learn about turning over the engine.

I started zapping in accordance with her instructions as regularly as required. I turned it on the first time, preparing my self for maybe some little jolt or something, but not a single sensation. I actually checked to make sure it was turned on.

I've never felt anything zapping, except with that penny (bare copper) one which had a habit of giving little electrical burns, and my fungus zapper after I rigged it to use the tens pads.

When the pads got old and unsticky, they pulled away from the skin, leaving not enough contact and would give me those same type burns. Entirely my fault for not changing the pads in time.

And no--zapping doesn't melt or effect those pads in any way.If it did, the tens unit would destroy them--the current is much stronger than a zapper's current. I'd just clamp the alligator clips on to the tens pads via their wire after cutting the plastic coating back. You did need to cover the bare metal, which I ended up just wrapping and taping the old unsticky ones around.

My experience with 15 years successful zapping and some herbs, all that happened is I got well. So you can put any fear aside about zapping hurting you. I'm pretty sure I'd have experienced any damage it might do by now or, if it had any harmful side effects."

020916---Well, the energy attack residue, is very weak any more. Apparently that Zen guy put layers and layers of latent energy, which by morning starts up again to a small degree, and I have to clear it out as well as a layer of energy protecting it from being removed like with a washcloth or something, but which can be removed with EFT.

Man, if I hadn't figured this out, I'd probably been suffering for years. I'm sure he hoped I would anyway. It just kills me that he hated me this much. I honestly never hurt him in any way. But apparently just being my essentially spontaneous and vocal self was enough.

I've seen his life somehow (he's not in our collective unconscious) so their overarching sentience might have given it to mine, who then gave it to me. I see that he was being groomed to be a high El-*th by his mother.

Her family was originally a High El-*th family, and she was obsessed that the family should regain it. Apparently if a High E-*th gets involved with a regular El*th, it dilutes the energy working ability to the point, the children won't be powerful enough to be High El-*th any longer.

She was such a child. She schemed and planned and managed to get a High El-*th to sleep with her and she managed to get pregnant twice by him. This was back just after the dragon war, and el-*th spirits were still needing bodies). Generous life mate there, knowing neither son was his. Zen was the oldest son, and from the minute he was born practically, she was manipulating and controlling his every waking hour, making his life very unhappy.

She drove him with threats of how if he didn't make high el-*th, he would be a miserable failure, and not worthy of her love. Saying even until he made high el-*th, he wasn't worthy of her love. Basing diet, sleeping times and other life necessary stuff on whether or not she felt he'd been working hard enough in gaining the necessary skills for the test.

His younger brother was getting similar treatment but their dad shielded him some what, so she concentrated most on Zen. And around age 50 (rather like 12 for us) the test is given to determine who's got what it takes to be High El-*th. They can test as many times as they want. A large part of it is actual ability to use energy, but some of it was dependent on mental stability. Can't have a wacko running around with High El-*th abilities, they can do too much damage.

Needless to say, after his mother's treatment, Zen wasn't. While he was strong enough energy working wise, he was way too battered to pass the stability part. He failed the test repeatedly. His mother of course rejected him completely and redirected her attention on to his younger brother.

He, because of his father's intervention and the lack of intense emotional threats, tested and actually made the cut.

Mom was thrilled. If you have a child who's made high el-*th, it gives you almost as much standing as being high el-*th.

The successful child moves to the high el-*th lodgings and begins training. Apparently, a high el-*th is so much more powerful than the regular el-*th because they get trained how to better direct it and such, as well as given training about the 'proper' way to act. Sorta like the regular el-*th are enlisted and High El-*th are officers--the officers are expected to behave to a code.

Although his brother made it, his mother still wouldn't forgive Zen for failing her. But being a total manipulator, she basiclly ran Zen around by the nose, hinting if he did this or that, maybe she could find it in her heart to forgive and love him, and on and on.

I have found it interesting how the regular el-*th have a lot of same emotional issues you see in humanity. The king is working out some tapping statements for this type of issue too. There are very strong censers against using energy against humans though. Zen wasn't attacking me as a human, he was attacking me as the Oracle/dagon rider. It's highly unlikely a regular human would draw this kind of fire in light of the punishment involved should they try.

What I've realized too, is that Zen's hatred of me was deeper than the Oracle/dragon rider level though. It was my ok-ness with blurting out what I was thinking, and having no one who obviously can control me. His desperate longing to be free of his mother who controlled his every word, every movement, every waking thought made him so jealous of me. I was the epitome of what he hated because there was no way he'd ever have it. It enraged him that I was free, and he still so deeply imprisoned by his mother and her approval.

Again, nothing I did--just who I was. And still in a position of note, where he had to see my free behavior every day. I think he went a bit crazy, actually. His mothers been driving him for 110 million years. I'm not sure how anyone could have stayed sane after that.

I'm trying to think of a topic to post that I've not done before concerning parasites. Thus far I'm sorta stuck.

The El-*th are doing more in depth mopping right now after a couple days off. They're doing the medical and educational fields--they're surprised how deep the corruption is going. They, like I rather expected the human nature of consideration for others to kick back in and bring the organizations back to a better moral standard.

The hybrid generated fear that drives greed and bad behavior is obviously very deeply engrained. They've found so many stepping up to take over the arrested person's place.

I'm guessing if the arrests had been overt, it might precluded these wanna-bes from going for it, thinking there aren't repercussions for their bad behavior. But obvious would be filled with misinterpretation, until the new government reveals itself, which still seems to waver between a market crash, or the next presidential election. Or maybe some other driving factor, like that Oregon thing.

I've been posting around the forums today, waiting for inspiration to strike, but so far nothing. Sorry! Tomorrow I guess.

And while the banning doesn't seem to be progressing, I'm still banned from the parasite and debates forums. I think he's waiting to see if more of the employees disappear. More have, but there's still a couple, so...

Looks like I'm getting the weekend off. :) But I've been having some serious and really weird 'taking a severe left turn out into left field' conversations with Celeste these last 4 or 5 days--like totally head tripping me (ok, I went thru the 60s/70s, groovy, man)----about human sexuality.

It really rattled me. Considering 'god' (from my experience with religions of any sort) has no interest about sex, and considers it pure unadulterated evil devil owned urges and total 'sin' barely made legal by marriage. The ultimate human urge which they've used to shame, guilt trip and control us with, with even greater success than religion, I've realized.

While I absolutely knew that was false in my head, it clearly was something still believed by my unconscious mind. Soooooo, talking to 'god' about sex. Yeah. I feared that I had finally slipped the rails and headed out to delusion land (considering what the cult did to 'teach' me about that).

Other than that though every thing else seemed the same, and as the conversations progressed, like always, the point of it all was revealed as something humanity really needed to know.

So, I'm going putting aside my reluctance (talking about sex has been not the easiest thing for me) and obey her desire to inform and free humanity from the chains of lies and horrid deceptions the hybrids locked us up in, which they used to destroy one of her greatest gifts to us.

Oh but it's not going to be at the actual physically descriptive level --no bodice ripping---(good way to get banned), only a clinical evaluation type thing--sorry.

021516---Ohhh, it's next week. And, where do I start?? I've been trying to figure out what's the best door to open. I'm reluctant to begin with my story as it is pure 'gee you don't talk about that stuff in public' information.

So I guess I'll give it a bit more thought, and rearranging of ideas, and try to start digging in tomorrow aka chickening out til then. But honestly, I'm thinking and thinking about it...it's such a delicate, potentially misunderstood subject: it feels like walking thru a mine field.

Hope you guys don't mind if I take the time needed to present it as clearly and understandably as I can.

Tomorrow then.... :)

Posted it over on my wordpress blog. I'm not sure if it's a bit riske' for here. Best not to take a chance. :)
https://oracle461com.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/what-about-human-sexuality/

It appears now I've posted that bit about human sexuality, the ninja hackers are gone. But I still feel apprehensive a bit, that there are hackers still around.

Since I know I can be hacked by answering private msgs here,I'm going to have to pass on answering those--especially from folks unwilling to be identified. I'll avoid direct answers instead answering to the post you're addressing. Got hacked answering directly before, so, sorry for the temporary inconvenience. I can't imagine what I might say further to get that hacker alert response. But ya never know...

So Please ask your questions out here---anonymous questions are fine. Touchy topic, I know.

I'm probably going to post a bit more later, or maybe not. I might get a topic.

Ok a bit more. I felt I really need to clarify something when I say Celeste as a 'she'.

I suspect it causes a lot of misogynistic types to go 'Pffft, 'SHE' I'm not afraid of no 'she'! What's she going to do? Kiss me to death?' Or other personal reasons that 'she'd be too weak, too kind, too lame for whatever reason.

So I realized I wasn't really describing what kind of 'she' she is. Think the regular usage of 'he' and 'she' as babbling brooks--'it' (all inclusive of any gender), as a good sized stream. Celeste's version is she/he/it like Niagara falls. All of the genders and SO much more.

I only say she, because the energy feels loving and deeply compassionate, but I've seen that energy as the 'he' version of Niagara falls--it's painfully powerful, demanding and capable of righteous anger bordering on rage as when he was thinking he might have to destroy a couple cities like he did Sodom and Gomorrah. His rage was based on the anti-humans destroying everything around them and driving his children into anti-human behaviors just to survive, and that it was pushing him to even have to consider doing it.

This being is huge and powerful beyond your wildest imaginings--not even a babbling brook 'she'.

Well, sorting thru what's next. Got some things to talk about, but need to decide what ones should be now or later. But nothing for right now. See you all tomorrow. :)

I'm having the day off with sweetie, and still figuring out what next. Hope your weekend is going well...

I'm maybe going to be posting over on educate-yourself.org a bit. It's still up in the air. I'm quite a different kind of poster though. It feels like Dear Abby writing articles for Science News. We'll see.

Oh, and the bans got lifted, Yay! So things are back to looking good. :)

What I've realized these last weeks is the 'voice' of the OAS is changing; it's becoming so much more powerful and full---like all the components are filling it up now. I'm not going to refer to it as her or Celeste any more; that's just not working.

All that loving compassionate energy is still there, but now it's just a small part of the whole. It's far more 'he/it' now, so I'm just going to say 'he' and call that being the OAS.

He's telling me that the Celeste quality was a cover, to keep the hybrids thinking 'she' was too weak to really protect her people, that they could win that contract/bet. Now that the bet's over, 'he' can be his full self again. It's like watching a flower unfold--he just seems bigger and more powerful every day.

I've realized I am 'his' submissive, heart and soul. so this whole Dom/submissive thing has gotten very real. I am absolutely going to quit asking how much weirder can it get? Because it just keeps getting weirder every time I do. There apparently is no bottom to 'how weird'.

Still processing this whole new view point and that I'm the OAS's sub, and actually have been since I agreed to be an Oracle. No wonder, I've always tried to do what he's asked pretty much without question. But it always made sense, so it seemed the logical right thing to do. And it has been, so maybe he's never had to go Dom on me?

I'm still mulling it over. Well, time will tell how this will affect me as his Oracle. Huh.

But not much more today. :)