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I've been sick for years and therefore trying to heal for years, the last 20 years to be exact. I've tried a lot of things during that time. I'll be 60 in 9 days. I have been dx'd with SIBO so I do not believe I can ever be healed by diet alone. I did a 10 day water fast, and also took the special Antibiotics but I am not well.
I have come to the conclusion that I need to target the bacteria/inflammation with other than diet because despite being gluten-free, sugar-free, dairy-free, I am not really well. I still have colon polyps and currently have a large nasal polyp in my right nostril and my thyroid has one large nodule and many small ones. I have food allergies and environmental allergies and have a headache daily with swollen bags under my eyes. My bowel movements are normal though and so is my weight and I'm not on any medicines besides the migraine excedrin I take daily. When I gave up the food I was the most allergic to, which was dairy, the severe constipation was gone. However, because of the SIBO and food allergies , I cannot eat a lot of healthy foods...raw kefir being the one that I miss the most.
The point of this post is...when you have SIBO, you really cannot be cured by diet alone nor by supplements to heal the lining. My diet is so limited that I cannot even eat vegetables or fruit, which leaves me with lettuce, eggs and meat. Even ACV is suspect as bothering me. My food allergies change like the wind too.
There has to be something else. I just bought Buhner's book on Herbal Antibiotics hoping that I can come up with some herbal that I can take daily for the rest of my life to quell the inflammation that the SIBO is causing because the diet is just a temporary fix. It's not the gluten, nor the grains..the diet doesn't stop the inflammation in the background. When I took the special Antibiotics , NOTHING I ate bothered me so that tells me the bacteria are wreaking havoc on my digestive system. Can you take an herbal Antibiotic long term without consequences though? Is there something I've missed that works?
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- Re: Stopping the bacteria/inflammati... grizz
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This is a reply to # 2,298,842hayley,
1st for everyone's benefit: What is SIBO?
"Small Intestinal Bacteria Overgrowth"
http://www.siboinfo.com/symptoms.html
You are very lucky I have been doing extensive research on a subject that recently saved my life from a horrible pneumonia, and has cured 25 years of suffering asthma.
Colloidal Silver is the natural supplement that safely kills ALL bacteria, virus & fungus without side effects when taken as directed. Pathogens cannot develop resistance to it like they can Antibiotics .
Clearly Colloidal Silver will help your condition.
"Use internally for h pylori infection, dysbiosis, SIBO or pathogenic bacteria in the digestive tract. I frequently recommend it as part of the anti- parasite protocol I give my clients."
http://www.maryvancenc.com/colloidal-silver-no-it-wont-turn-you-blue-yes-it-can-prevent-illness/
"The Original Anti-Fungal and Anti-Bacterial
Colloidal Silver is another potent antifungal and antibacterial product you can use in your fight against candida and SIBO...."
http://ericbakker.com/colloidal-silver-for-candida/
Colloidal Silver Resources:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wfnslQKQDd3i3ZK5B6jnW2cPv_0QnCTNstWF5trl_hc/edit?usp=sharing
Includes testimonials, dosages & how to make your own for pennies on the dollar.
Best to you,
Grizz
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This is helpful, provided that you do NOT use artificial Sugar substitutes such as Aspartame or acesulfame.
As for the SIBO, I have been trying to get the medical industry to try ParaZapper products in studies for exactly that type of problem.
We know that ParaZapper kills a wide range of microbes in water using very mild electric pulses. Since the human body is mostly water, there is not any reason known that would prevent it from working. The has been a lot of anecdotal evidence that previous models of ParaZapper worked well for many customers.
However, the FDA and the medical industry do not want this type of product because they would lose control and money.
Also, as Grizz stated above, Colloidal Silver can be very helpful.
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This is a reply to # 2,298,842hayley,
Here is another thought. You are at the right age for SEVERE Nitric Oxide Deficiency.
Nitric Oxide begins a huge decline beginning at about 30 yrs old, and by age 60 is close to zero with severe health complications including colitis & constipation, where I suspect your SIBO is related.
See this link for details including the chart for Nitric Oxide vs Age and how to restore your nitric oxide to youthful levels.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vpBf2OUlekJ1gjPy4G_SUSL5BLXc9rp0mO-4KTVuATA/edit#
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Thanks Grizz for your most thoughtful post.
I've already done parasite cleanses, liver cleanses, detoxes, vitamin supplementation, Colloidal Silver , raw diets, scd diet, Nourishing Traditions diet, Paleo Diet, juicing, water fasting, green smoothie diet. Honestly I'm tired of being on a diet where I don't get better...I've lived my life looking for answers that never came. It's no different than what the medical establishment does..it doesn't get to the root of the problem, it's just treating the symptoms.
Honestly, if Colloidal Silver worked for SIBO, then that web site you posted, they would know about it.
Thanks,
Cheryl
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This is a reply to # 2,298,842Or you could just do Dr. Clark's protocol. Digestive tract problems are Always parasites and their infections.
I'm helping someone who has several intestinal problems and realizing those folks with those kinds of issues would be hard-pressed to do the cloves or cayenne pepper stuff.
So what I figured out is that for those folks, they could do the Wormwood and pathogen killing herb (with hot beverage) for the first 4 days or so, and add silver, a good but fairly passive anti-virus/bacteria/fungal to help the lining heal enough to start tolerating the cloves and cayenne.
You'd need to find out from Dr. Clark's book 'cure for all diseases' what virus or bacteria was associated with the parasites there, because the infection from the parasites hurts far worse than the parasites themselves.
I talk about what I use for the different pathogens here.
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=2286100#i
But be sure to take any systemic herb with at least a hot beverage (or ideally cayenne capsule) to boost your metabolism high enough to metabolize the herbs. People don't, usually, and so think that herbs don't work, when in fact they work quite well if your body can use them.
Yes it would cause the parasites to scatter, but if you zapped right on the heels of this start, it wouldn't be a problem. Just a thought on making it easier on those poor problem digestive tract folks. I'm sure there is a infection with those that conveniently the doctors 'can't' diagnose, so at least the silver, as recommended, should be used to at least stop the pain.
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Doing her cleanse requires a zapper. I thought I pointed that out, but it appears I didn't. Sorry. You really need the zapper to kill the out of the digestive tract parasites, who probably will crawl back in after you've killed the ones that were there, poking more holes in the walls of your digestive tract.- Re: Stopping the bacteria/inflammati... hayley3
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This is a reply to # 2,299,004Sorry I don't believe in the Zapper. I used traditional wormers and saw a toilet bowl full of worms from my daughter. Can you say the same for the zapper?
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This is a reply to # 2,299,073Yes, I have personally seen the same. Believing or not believing is not the issue. The issue is that zappers may provide additional benefits that the herbals do not.
I have never seen anything stop a cold or the flu as quickly as my experience with using zappers has. I have used herbs and could sell herbs, but I sell zappers instead because I have been totally impressed with the experiences that I have had.
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This is a reply to # 2,299,073BTW, try a really good zapper on that tooth infection and you may become a believer.
Zappers kill germs in water, so why not in other places.
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This is a reply to # 2,299,073I'm guessing this is one of those fear mongering zapping denying type posts you see sooo many of here courtesy of the pharmacutiel cartel's employees. 'She's' just too organized and sure of 'herself'.
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This is a reply to # 2,299,073The herbs kill the intestine worms which you could see. The zapper kills the ones OUTSIDE the intestinal tract which, how the heck would they end up in your toilet?? You body has to dispose of them by breaking them down and disposing of them just like regular waste---hence the herx reaction you can get from zapping.
Ow---it's so obvious it hurts.- Re: Stopping the bacteria/inflammati... NELLY447
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This is a reply to # 2,299,174I had diarrhea, heartburn, vomiting and headaches. It was chronic and it lasted 7 years. I made treatments Ogastoro, Smecta, Antibiotics and paracetamol. Nothing has been detected in my excrement or in my blood. I realized that my problems were stress and internal tensions. I tried meditation and then I read the booklet of Naïs SOUBIROU "Se délivrer de la boule au ventre" (You can translate because 10 pages about). I worked with this method of appeasing his solar plexus to release internal tensions. Since I no longer have these problems. I now believe that many external events (diseases) are due to stress, which disrupts our body. I reason differently and I hope to help others by advising that. It is essential to look after our stress problems because they are often the cause of our illnesses. To explain a bit this method, it is to find agreement between our brain and the emotional brain (called solar plexus) because it is the conflict between these two brains that makes you sick
For example if you are angry against someone and if you do and say anything: your two brains are in conflict. The solar plexus is receiving bad emotions and brain prohibited action. Then the solar plexus suffers and makes your stomach sick, maladjusted. So it is necessary that the solar plexus expresses its unease to the brain and the brain explains why he can not act. This helps to soothe his inner and evil disappears. In addition to external solutions, still trying to study this possibility.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,299,200Yes, you are right and I agree, stress is a killer. However, stress is not the cause of every problem. For those problems that are caused by microbes, there is a different answer.
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This is a reply to # 2,299,220Hi parazapper,
We have good bacteria and bad bacteria. When the good bacteria flora of instinales are quite numerous: balance comes naturally (stress, alcohol consumption, significant absorption of caffé or long use of Antibiotics prevents these good bacteria to grow). I fully agree that we must first kill the bad bacteria and then we must consume natural yoghurt (because they contain L-Casei "lactic ferment") and also get rid of stress. The balance is recreated naturally because the good bacteria are quite numerous in the intestinal flora.
that's why I think he should also be caused by stress.
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This is a reply to # 2,298,842Looking for herbal recipes I found some new SIBO info:
New methane treatment coming in 2017?
Posted on January 19, 2016
Dr. Pimentel has been at the lead of SIBO research over the last few years and has uncovered the underlying causes of the illness, notably the autoimmune reaction causing the destruction of the vinculin protein that helps drive the migrating motor complex of the small intestine. For the last few years he has been focusing on methane patients quite a bit and trying to find a new solution to the illness since those with vinculin antibodies relapse frequently. It looks like he is in Phase 2 Clinical Trials now on a new drug that stops methane production in m.smithii. You can read all about it at the Synthetic Biologics site - the drug is currently known as SYN-010. This “cure” seems to really just be stopping the archea from producing methane which causes the symptoms instead of killing off the m.smithii directly. Not sure how I feel about this, it seems to be treating the symptoms instead of the root of the problem and those archea and bacteria will still be in the wrong place eating your food in the small intestine. The drug is a variation on lovastatin and statin drugs also have side effects that are pretty undesirable to me at least, especially myopathy.
Dr. Ruscio is running a similar study using Red Rice Yeast instead of a drug since that is a natural statin. Hopefully he gets good results w/o the side effect rate of SYN-010. Stay tuned.
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This is a reply to # 2,299,153Cheryl, Dr. Pimentel is a good guy and he's been doing fine research on SIBO. I don't know your case but read the entire thread. I've been treating GI patients for 25 of my 27 year career and there is never just one issue, meaning just SIBO or just H. pylori. H. pylori, food poisoning, Lack of HCl, stress, low thyroid, Antibiotic use, electrical imbalances/migrating motor complex weakness.... are just some of the underlying causes. Some or all can be happening at once. Which do you treat first and in what order do treat the rest? Treating only SIBO can be a futile task.
For sure you need a competent coach, one who can order all tests needed to figure your situation out - "if you're not testing, you're only guessing."
If you would only like a herbal protocol, here it is: Biotics Research (ADP, Dysbioside, FC-Cidal). Apex Energetics (HPLR and Sibiotica). Now Foods (Inflammation and antihistamine - Quercitin w/bromelain and EGCG).
I hope you get your health back and begin living LIFE as you would like.
Respectfully,
Dr. Ettinger
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This is a reply to # 2,305,417Thank you Dr Ettinger....sadly I can't afford a Naturopath or for sure I'd done that years ago but I do agree with you, if you aren't testing it's all a guess.
However when the stomach is messed up, you are gonna have deficiencies which leads to inflammation, allergies, thyroid problems, autoimmune problems. According to the newest research, there are organisms, not bacteria, in SIBO that causes the autoimmune reaction.
I've read all the healing protocols but they no longer work for me. Pretty soon I'll be allergic to water.
Until medical insurance allows naturopaths I guess I will remain in this condition. I just tried to drink coconut milk kefir and found I'm very allergic to it. LOLAdvertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,306,052I totally understand on all issues. As far as the R.R.Y goes, as long as you take 100mg's of CoQ10 2x/day, you may just side-step any potential negative symptom. I'm just throwing that out there but I'm sure you are aware of coQ10 and statins, as you seem pretty educated. And from how you describe your situation, you might still react just by inhibiting the liver enzyme HMG-CoA. Never know, may be worth a test-run with it. Dr. E
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This is a reply to # 2,306,125What is RRY? I don't know much about statins cause my cholesterol is okay and so is my heart.
I did buy some CoQ10 for my thyroid though.
Thanks,
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This is a reply to # 2,298,842I thought I'd share my new favorite quote from Dr. Clark's book, 'cure for all Diseases', page 2
"Only Two Health Problems:
No matter how long and confusing is the list of symptoms a person has, from chronic fatigue to infertility to mental problems, I am sure to find only two things wrong: they have in them pollutants and/or parasites. I never find lack of exercise, vitamin deficiencies, hormone levels or anything else to be a primary causative factor."
In my opinion and years of experience, any other 'medical explanation' is pretty much just made up to sell drugs.
Here's her discovery of the Clark style zapper (how can you not believe in zapping? It's like not believing in light bulbs):
In 1994 my son built a hand held, battery operated, accurate frequency generator. The purpose was to enable everyone to kill the intestinal fluke at 434,000 Hz with a low cost device. Enough benefit would be derived from zapping at various frequencies that I thought everyone should know how to make one. When I tested it on one of my own bacteria, however, three others at much different frequencies died also! This had never happened before. When I tested it on others, even though they had dozens of pathogens, all were killed!
Subsequent testing showed it was not due to some unique design, or special wave form produced by the device. It was due to battery operation!" page 14.
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