Blood Test Results - High Cholestero... 
Tony Stark
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HI!
I am 40 year old male and new here... Today I received my blood test results and need some help with what I can do naturally. I have quite low Testosterone and very high Cholesterol and Triglycerides;
Testosterone Level
7.6 nmol/l
2.19 ng/ml
219 ng/dl
Cholesterol Level
8.8 mmol/l
339.7683397683398 mg/dL
Triglyceride
7.8 mmol/l
301.1583011583012 mg/dL
The Lab results had these comments also - Comments on Lab - This LDL has been measured directly. A calculated LDL level using the Friedewald equation was not valid for this sample as the triglyceride level was >4.5 mmol/L
I lift weights a lot, am muscular (Doctor asked if I was taking anabolics, which I am not) and I feel in good health. My dad has high cholesterol, so there is a genetic link.
I don't want to go on statin drugs if I can help it, but I need to do something.
Any comments would really be appreciated.
Thanks!
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- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,248,118https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9794323F5BEC78C0 Watch and absorb everything you can from this playlist, take notes and google the terms you're not familiar with.
These are lectures by an integrative medicine specialist (and fully experienced doctor with a PhD) in Dallas Texas - Jerry Tennant.
It'll point you in the right direction to go for the trigylcerides, cholesterol levels..
And educate nicely. :) (it brings together stuff that CZ has in bits and bytes. )
Chickory root tea can help a lot, as well as asprin. Both are very high in salicylic acid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salicylic_acid) which sinks triglyceride and cholesterol levels by aiding the liver. It's otherwise known as vit B11 .
Tennant's biomodulator tool is a fancy version of a rife machine. I'm researching the rife tech at the moment, and looking at the spooky2 as a much less expensive tool. (in case you get Q's from the vids!)
- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... Tony Stark
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This is a reply to # 2,248,124Thanks for the message. I will be sure to check this out...
The recent cholesterol and triglyceride results were very much a surprise.
I really take care of myself with exercise and diet, so it was like "what on earth is going on???"- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,248,189Well.. -something- to do with the liver, that's for sure!
Infections can mess with digestive ability plenty.. and I linked to the tennant videos because he points out co-infections and the whole nine yards.
Iodine, etc..
Personal nutrient profiles can swing a ton with the season, viruses and infectious agents at play in the population, diet within the past 2-4 weeks, heck, even stress and emotional levels.
Fatty acid metabolisim is linked to B-vitamin status, especially niacin and pantethine levels, Iodine and it's cofactors, etc. Messing with those supplementally is a giant networked puzzle though, so it's better to start with the logical explanation from an integrative medicine doc, because he points out the things that are too much to write in a forum post!
Low testosterone is especially interesting once you get to Tennant's materials on iodine, since we're talking about hormone production. An imbalanced gut flora can skew hormonal balances like nobody's business since they can produce estrogen-like substances, but the first place to look is near-always diet...
And, a Tennant mentions, the overall behaviors of the meridian lines through the body. Have you been in for dental checkups or polishing (flouride exposure == low Iodine status) lately? Colds, flus, coughs within the past 4-6 months? Those sorts of things can stay on systemically.
- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... Tony Stark
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This is a reply to # 2,248,236Thanks again for getting back to me.
I am into bodybuilding, so am quite muscular. I would probably have a body fat level of maybe 12%?
I eat quite healthy and avoid GMO, transfats, vegetable oils, steroids in meat and I don't take any anabolics (Doctor asked me last visit).
Supplements - I take iodine, Vitamins D3-C-A-B-K2, Magnesium, Ashwaganda, Eckonclavia, Selenium, Zinc (15mg), Copper, Resveratrol, Curcumin, Quercetin, Krill Oil (500mg), R-Lipoic Acid, Acetyl L-Carnitine, L-Carnosine, BCAA's, all natural (no additives) whey.
I have had a white stuff on my tongue and my tongue has ridges around the outside. Someone once casually mentioned that this could be a sign of issues with the liver, but I never gave it much thought.
I am at a loss on what else to do. I thought I was healthy, so this has been a shock...
- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,248,257Supplements - I take iodine,
Vitamins D3-C-A-B-K2,
Ratios, dosages, formulations of C, A, brand of b's and dosages, type/brand of K2 and doses?
Magnesium,
formulation of magnesium, and dosage?
Ashwaganda, Eckonclavia,
Outside of my experience yet ;)
Selenium,
formulation and dosage? (important! :)
Zinc (15mg),
formulation?
Copper,
formulation and dosage?
Resveratrol, Curcumin, Quercetin,
excellent
Krill Oil (500mg),
cold-extracted?
Also, taken with lemon juice?
R-Lipoic Acid,
dosage?
Acetyl L-Carnitine, L-Carnosine,
BCAA's, all natural (no additives) whey.
These may be contributing to your candida overgrowth. without being bound to digestive enzymes before ingestion, they are free-floating food. Houston AFP-pep in water with these ingredients (1-3 capsules depending upon the amount) can help re-bind the protiens against hungry candidders, but you need good stomach acid to bind free amino acids and trigger the pancreas to mobilize it's protease production. A steak and eggs breakfast is a stronger way to get your amino acids in, with a betain HCL or two.
The amino acids are usually put in a capsule to help protect against stomach acid, which means if they're ingested with water, the materials may end up in the small intestine unprocessed. You need to be able to taste the protiens to prompt the pancreas via the thyroid/salivary glands.
White tongue indicates a likely issue with bile production, which phosphatidyl choline can help address. Betain HCL with pancreatin also provides extra anticandida effects.
I suggest sea or himalaya Seasalt water rinses, and some journaling and experimentation with the amino acid supplementation. Continuing your workout pattern while abstaining from the amino acids can prove a very good test, for 1-2 weeks, with journalling as appropriate. Stronger intake of ruccola, baby spinach, steamed kale and less fruit can also help hit the candida overgrowth harder.
Got any experience with liquid/water/dry fasting?
- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... Tony Stark
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This is a reply to # 2,248,279Thanks again for the reply.
I have been researching a lot and it is doing my head in. My triglyceride levels are like 4-5X what they should be and it concerns me a lot...
Candida overgrowth? I am not sure that I have this? I thought I did once and thought I addressed it?
Supplements -
Vitamin D3 - Healthy Origins 5,000IU
Vitamin A - Now 25,000IU (fish oil)
Vitamin K-2 - Now 100mcg
Eckloncavia - Nutricology Fibroboost
Krill Oil - Now Neptune Krill Oil 500mg
Copper - Nutricology Copper Sebacate 4mg
Zinc - Jarrow Zinc Balance 15mg
Selenium - Jarrow Selenium Synergy 200mcg
Ashwaganda - Jarrow 225mg
Magnesium - Now Magnesium Citrate 500mg
Boron - Now 3mg
Brocomax - Jarrow 385mg
R-Lipoic Acid - Doctor's Best 200mg
Acetyl L Carnitine - Doctor's Best 1,000mg
Chromium - Now GTF Chromium 200mcg
Resveratrol - Now 200mcg
Curcumin - Jarrow 500mg
Quercetin - Natrol 500mg
Vitamin C - Doctor's Best Quali-C 3g
Immune Boost 77 - Morningstar Minerals 1.8g
Melatonin - Natrol 3-6mg
Iodine - Iosol 9 drops
Silica - Jarrow 12 drops
I have used Betain HCL in the past, but am not sure it did anything. I feel Brocomax fixed my bad reflux and I feel the Curcumin/Resveratrol/Quercetin combo fixed my dandruff and rosacea.
With my cholesterol and triglyceride issues, I have read that taking fish oil in doses of 4g is very beneficial. I also read that Niacin is worth taking also, along with Pysllium Husk powder.
Thanks again,
- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... Tony Stark
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This is a reply to # 2,248,299The low testosterone is the other factor...
I have been looking and am just not sure what to do about it to raise it...- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,248,300Ask at the Iodine vwt forum, testes and prostate may be effected by the ammonium iodide.
Could also be potential phytoestrogens from food sources, or PFCs from plastics (hormone disruptors)
- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... illys / elisah
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- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,248,299The magnesium citrate can contribute to SIBO too, need.a magnesium that is completely bound to an amino acid. Citrate is prime fungus food, and the same for mg once the citrate is metabolized/ mg is freed.
I chose mg taurate myself (douglas labs)- I had thrush and problems with malate, chloride and citrate forms.
Iosol is questionable- ammonium Iodide in the ingredients list:
Glycerine (vegetarian), iodine, ammonium iodide, DI water
Fungal overgrowth overloads the system with ammonia besides your own body's production, iit's one of the fungal byproducts of Candida to help adapt the body environment to its' needs for an acidic environment. Potassium Iodide is the flagship of the VWT team forum in SSKI solution.
Niacin is very nice, but with a sluggish liver it can make symptoms worse. Without coenzymated b-complex, it worsened insomnia/restlessness for me. Full flush niacin is powerfully anti fungal, so it might be up your alley. Iodine VWT recommended form is inositol hexanicotinate, 500mg (inositol bound with niacin), aka IP6- a powerful toxin-mopper-upper- and riboflavin to complete the ATP cycle.
K2 in MK4 form is also a favorite snack for gut buggers. Try and absorb it sublingually after a good brush and natron bicarb rinse of your mouth. I find the k2 drops to be a really good solution.
Look carefully at your NOW products- they're big fans of using rice flour, etc, as fillers, and there again you've got a potential gutbugger stew brewing.
Glad to help where I can :)
B-complexes are best 20-30 mins after zinc to retreats gutbugger parties
Favorite multi-b here is jarrow B-right, 1/2 capsule following 1/8 jarrow zinc after mealtimes.
My research source: http://mueller_ranges.tripod.com/links/compendium/compendium.html- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... Tony Stark
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This is a reply to # 2,248,310Thanks again.
Thanks also for the heads up on the Now Brand.. Jarrow is my favorite, so I might start staying clear of Now.
With the magnesium, are there any other options? I tend to order from Iherb.
Are there any other thoughts on what I am taking?
It looks like I need to up the dose of fish oil to around 4g a day. Krill oil is expensive, so I was thinking of taking the krill oil that I take now and adding in some plain fish oil.
With the Niacin, does it have to be full flush or can I go with flush free?
Not sure what to do about testosterone...- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,248,385
Thanks again.
Thanks also for the heads up on the Now Brand.. Jarrow is my favorite, so I might start staying clear of Now.
Yeah, Jarrow's a delight :-)
With the magnesium, are there any other options? I tend to order from Iherb.
http://www.iherb.com/Cardiovascular-Research-Ltd-Magnesium-Taurate-180-Capsules/55928#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=magnesium%20taurate&rc=29&sr=null&ic=1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Douglas-Labs-Magnesium-Taurate-400-120-Tablets-/400868007799?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d55985f77
Epsom salt footbaths or a full-bath soak, epsom salts can be bought from any drug or health store (use fresh water rinse and olive oil rubdown on feet to avoid dry skin afterwards)
Dead sea salts have a high magnesium ratio, but also boron and potassium (boron helps retain magnesium and calcium)
Transdermal magnesium absorbtion is very high
Are there any other thoughts on what I am taking?
Take a look at the compendium, do a search on the word testosterone! ;) No, nothing other than make sure you're spacing out the supplements appropriately, try to make sure you're taking the minimum required dose rather than the max, and journal-journal :)
It looks like I need to up the dose of fish oil to around 4g a day. Krill oil is expensive, so I was thinking of taking the krill oil that I take now and adding in some plain fish oil.
Fish oil has the habit of getting rancid because there's no anasthaxin in it like in the krill oil. Might be a waste of money because the krill oil is that much more concentrated. Go for something balanced (http://www.iherb.com/Solgar-EFA-Omega-3-6-9-120-Softgels/13149#p=1&oos=1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=efa&rc=1093&sr=null&ic=1 for example)
With the Niacin, does it have to be full flush or can I go with flush free?
Full-flush, twinlabs 500mg is best, start with spinkles from the capsules for titration, ~50 mg orally will start the flush process. Rub skin with olive oil for easy flush relief. flushing and sauna treatment is considered superior detox therapy
Not reccommended to go above 50mg without jarrow b-right (has niacin in it in full-flushing form to begin with) and Mg taurate or Mg threonate (also good form of Mg) to support it
Not sure what to do about testosterone...
http://mueller_ranges.tripod.com/links/compendium/compendium.html
Use the search bar, type testosterone~
Good place for pointers on all sorts of supplements and on diet. They have a yahoo group too.Investigate butyrate ( http://thehomeschoolingdoctor.com/butyrate-series/ )
Together with boron (boron and n-butyric acid water) is a very effective anti-fungal (stops candida from going into hyphal form )use the Dr. Jerry Tennant videos to help with understanding from top to bottom
Also very important: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4CWmWwkMo8 Emotional links and their effects on the body - clear info on the magnesium citrate ... illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,248,385From compendium on zinc and minerals bound with citrates :
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an email exchange (26th july 04) on forms of zinc.
What are your thoughts on zinc picolinate? I read a paper that said it is quite bioavailable. Also, are ALL the mineral citrates yeast feeders? I give my daughter optizinc now but wondered about other options. C.
my reply:
i think the issue with zinc picolinate is it preserves very long chain fatty acids which contribute to demyelination which is the ald (adrenoleukodystrophy) lorenzo oil thing. nothing is better absorbed than zinc methionine but i do worry about having too much of one form of zinc.
however demyelination is a general issue with zinc and this is why copper sebacate is important to re-promote myelination. you can need a suprising amount of copper sebacate.
it maybe that zinc picolinate goes preferentially to the brain and so unbalances the copper there contributing to demyelination? is copper an essential mineral in an enzyme that breaks down very long chain fatty acids? would copper sebacate rectify this and make it ok to take zinc picolinate?
the ratio of 1 to 10 copper to zinc that you mentioned before seems about right.
yeah all the mineral citrates are yeast feeders, its to do with the citrates being easily metabolised by stomach flora and hence the mineral also becomes very available to the flora.
i tried the now 50 mg zinc gluconate yesterday cutting the tablet down to the same dose as the optizinc or maybe a tad more and it goes well occasionally in place of the optizinc
"" -- Andrew http://mueller_ranges.tripod.com/links/compendium/copperandzinc.html#diabetes
- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,248,310Ammonia is alkaline with a ph of 11.6 and not acid!
inositol hexanicotinate has nothing to do with IP-6 ie Inositol hexaphosphate which is probably why you are mixing them up. It's an entirely different thing.- Re: Blood Test Results - High Choles... illys / elisah
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This is a reply to # 2,248,592Thank you for your corrections
Is ammonia still not a concern when having Candida overgrowth/thrush?
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