Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEMENT?! 
missfoxxy
10 y
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You've probably seen my posts here before- but each day I grow more and more paranoid about my condition. Though I will not be looked at/diagnosed until Tuesday, I have been suffering from acute AND non-acute abdominal pain/spasms, nausea, muscle soreness, random muscle spasms/twitcing, anxiety, dizziniss, panic attacks, fatigue, watery diarrhea and mushy, or semi-formed stools, gas, bloating, heart palpitations, fast heartbeat etc. etc.
So this morning while examining my stools I noticed several chunks that were very dark black- needless to say it frightened me REAL bad. I passed it off as possibly something I ate, but 6 minutes later I go back to the toilet and unleash a TON of extremely mushy very dark blackish-green poop. I got SO freaked out. Here is a photo (no clue if it will show up)
It did not seem very 'tarry'- more just 'mushy'- it broke into a billion pieces among touching it with a glove and somewhat dissolved basically into the toilet water.
I thought back to blackish things I ate yesterday:
A burned grilled cheese (probably more than half of it was blackish)
a small piece of chocolate (milk chocolate)
about a handful of blueberries
It was also the first time I've eaten dairy that wasnt yogurt since I stopped for my parasite cleanse with Goldenseal and Garlic.
btw I feel the acute pain in several different areas of my digestive tract. Could I be bleeding? Or is it the blueberries that I ate?
Keep in mind I have un-identified parasites and the abdominal pain has happened for a long time. Is it possible that prolonged exposure to parasites causes bleeding?
I'm just really frightened and want to KNOW if i should seek emergency medical care for this.
Thank you.
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- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... BrandyS
10 y
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This is a reply to # 2,142,216I have not said much because I don't know much, but I do know that goldenseal can and will kill EVERYTHING in your gut, and it is recommended to take high doses of probiotics while taking it as it does kill everything. This could be the cause of some of your issues....
- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... missfoxxy
10 y
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This is a reply to # 2,142,249I am taking a pro-biotic as well, but incase you know- When should I take the probiotic as opposed to the goldenseal? I know not to take them together but I am getting mixed signals about timing from my family. I am taking a probiotic with 5billion+ (whatever that means) once per day. Should I up the dose to 3 times daily or before/after every meal? I take the goldenseal without food and a large glass of water
- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... BrandyS
10 y
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This is a reply to # 2,142,252See I don't know....have you looked into other parasite cleanses? I particularly like Humaworm, as we have had lots of success with it (and I have felt a lot of the same things you have felt!), but I have also heard good things about Hulda Clark . When we did our first cleanse it was recommended not to take probiotics because when you are trying to kill what is in your guts you don't want to feed the parasites with probiotics, however with your anxiety, heart palpatations, spasms, and what not, you may be taking too much goldenseal? How much are you taking? Are you drinking plenty of water? What is your diet like?
- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... missfoxxy
10 y
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This is a reply to # 2,142,253I am taking 400mg Goldenseal root/rhizomes 3X per day with lots of water. I am on the anti-candida diet (no Yeast, Sugar or wheat) But I have lost so much weight (15lbs and I was already underweight) that my parents are giving me some of these forbidden foods in hopes I don't lose more pounds. I am eating fresh fruits and vegetables when I can, organic meats and soups, herbal teas, and raw garlic and ginger. The improvements I've noticed while taking the herb (its been one week so far)= stools do not FLOAT like they did nor are they pure liquid or bright yellow (they still have air bubbles, are soft, mushy and stink like the high heavens), my involuntary muscle spasms have decreased (not gone, but decreased/less frequent). My first suspicion of what sickness I had was Giardia, from the sudden onset of digestive problems that resulted in explosive yellowish watery diarrhea 5+ times per day which is why I began the goldenseal treatment. but the twitching and spasming in my intestines lead me to believe (along with reading this forum) that I have ascaris, toxoplasmosis, or something else similar. I fear scattering a LOT. I have always had severe anxiety and health anxiety-especially when sick, which might be a culprit for the heart problems I have been having. I tried Paragone for three days but had to stop due to heavy diarrhea and cramping (as it directed on the package). I am seeing a specialist on Tuesday who might be able to help me. I am thinking now the bloody stool was more than likely the blueberries I ate (probably half a pint of them last night), and perhaps the mushiness came from the grilled cheese I ate (the bread was sourdough- so no yeast but still guilty of wheat and dairy). I've also heard that heavy herbal treatment can cause scattering as-well which is why I have been hesitant to bring in the big guys like Wormwood and clove. Being somebody that has had pinworm and eradicated it effectively with Antibiotics , I am hoping that the doctor can cure me with some of the hardcore pharmescuitcals. I told myself if I wasn't cured by the goldenseal, I clearly did not have Giardia and must see a doctor for a colonoscopy/other test to see what parasitic infection I have.
- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... Soly047
10 y
1,871
This is a reply to # 2,142,257You can have some blood in a bowel movement because sometimes parasite damage your tissues mechanically so the body respond to fix this but it takes some time (but it can be also caused by other things not only parasites). Your symptoms are very general so it's hard to say. I can see that you are stressed out by this... But plz don't think about this 24/7... The more stressed you are the more the body will suffer... Not good at all... If you can't do anything about this issue now... Just live... Because stress won't solve anything... *I can't see your picture. You should seek a medical care but you don't need to go to ER. You would know when you need to go to ER trust me you would ask here... You would just go... So calm down... :)
- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... missfoxxy
10 y
1,786
This is a reply to # 2,142,268It's really difficult not to think about this when it interferes with my daily life. Eating, and using the bathroom are pretty pivotal moments of your day so when they aren't normal or the rest of your day is pain and suffering, i can't relax :'(. I desperately want my health back as soon as possible, and it seems like this is dragging on forever. I hate never feeling healthy, never feeling comfortable and having these pains. I dont know how to cope. I've never had a problem like this, and I am getting so many mixed signals on what to eat, what to take etc. I wish there was something about my symptoms that stood out so it was more recognizable.
is there anything distinguishable about roundworm V.S. Tapeworm V.S. Protozoan infection? sometimes it's difficult for me to tell what is my mind- what is the parasite- and what is my diet/herb that is making me feel so absolutely horrid!- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... Soly047
10 y
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This is a reply to # 2,142,294I understand this... I know it must be very hard... But just try... Also I don't mean to scare you... But what concerns me the most is that you report random muscle spasms/twitcing... But once again that could be anything... One thing I want to tell you if you are infected with parasites and they gone systemic... It's not gonna be a short ride... It might take anything from weeks to months and even years. So hope for the best prep for the worst. Always prep for worst case scenario that way you won't get shocked when it happens. I never believed that any parasite can get to my head... That's mad right? Well... They did. I can't think of a worse case scenario here... Anyway... If I have to make a risk assessment... I would say you are likely to be infected by a roundworm family (from what I read so far)... Tapeworm still somewhat not that common... Also your symptoms advocate the case for a roundworm infection. I won't worry about protozoan infection here as well. As I said before test your blood for eosinophilia/elevated eosinophils or total white blood cells count (it comes with the regular blood check) it's a must if you want to know if you have a parasite infection or not. Second I would recommend for now to try mebendazole cycle (see ICU protocol here on the forum about it) and see if you get any reaction to it/any success of reduced symptoms.
- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... missfoxxy
10 y
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This is a reply to # 2,142,327Yes, that is what I fear as well- and I am entirely paranoid that I already have a systemic infection, and so I am treating it as one. I thought the Albenzadole (sp) was used for systemic infections? When I see the parasite doctor he more than likely has seen countless cases and will be able to identify my infection and distinguish its severity and whether or not its localized.
When I went to the ER they took my blood and told me my white blood cell count was okay (I think….They probably would have told me if it was elevated, right?!)- they told me nothing else about eosinophilia. They checked my urine, stool and blood and said everything looked normal.
I have been in bed/housebound for over 6 months without much exercise because of social anxiety/agoraphobia- which I think could be a contributing factor to my overall health (involving my cardiovascular health as well as probably the muscle and motor function). I am expecting the doctor to inform me of a systemic infection- but I will not discredit my poor diet and habits leading up to my illness as a reason. I have been experiencing the muscle twitches much less since I have been eating more healthy and doing more exercise (i walked two miles yesterday!) and from the goldenseal.
Thank you for your insight anyway, at least now I know what to expect! I just can't wait to expel all of the little buggers and be on my way to good health- no matter how long it takes. I really value your opinion as somebody with experience, so any answer/response you give me is really important.- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... BrandyS
10 y
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This is a reply to # 2,142,345Well, let us know what they say on Tuesday. No matter what you are not alone! Most of us here are in charge of our own health and desire to get our lives back (despite little help from our health care providers) and have done many hours of research and asked lots of questions! You are in our prayers!!
- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... Soly047
10 y
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This is a reply to # 2,142,345Yes only albendazole really can treat systemic infections with some efficiency when it comes to roundworms. But so far I only want to believe that you have an intestinal infection and not systemic. Also to get albendazole is not easy via docs. Yes if you see a parasitologist he should know. Normal docs have no clue LOL! There is a problem with the white blood cell count esp when it comes down to eosinophils... What I mean by that? Some docs/medical staff will see elevated eosinophils as normal occurrence but it's not. Eosinophils should be around 2.5 to 7% in the blood in a normal healthy person. Eosinophils can be elevated from 15 to 30 when the body is fighting something but here is the kicker... Some uneducated docs/medical staff will claim that it's normal while it's total BS. It's a full blown infection. I have over 30 in my blood (eosinophils)... That's very high and not normal. Yet my doc only will panic if I have over 70... Mind you that's when you die... LOL! You see what I mean here? You have to educate yourself better. Also many parasitologists will raise the alarm at 30. Normal docs won't as they have no idea what it means and what are they dealing with. So unless you know your eosinophils number for sure... Don't rely on medical docs and staff to see it as abnormal. You need expert help/parasitologists here. So you are looking for eosinophils in the range of 15 to 30 and beyond that (when it comes to roundworm infection)... I took this number from the parasitology literature. Yes the diet and exercise will help your body to reduce inflammation and toxic waste from parasites and even boost your white blood cells, however, the issue with parasites is that it don't matter if you have the best immune system in the world (unless you are some generic freak) and a healthy lifestyle. They found advanced ways to fool our immune system and avoid/hide from it. Otherwise our immune system would wipe them out simple as that. So we really need to show our immune system how to ID them better and don't get fooled by them. I hope in the future we can develop drugs where they will attack parasite inhibitors so our immune system can ID them better and wipe them out. For now we not that advanced yet in this specific field regarding biochemistry.
- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... nyckid10
10 y
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This is a reply to # 2,142,363I had a IGE count of over 2000 when anything above 100 is considered "high"....and 2 doctors told me that it is just "allergies" LOL. You can't count on them. Your immune system is in the gut, so if any antibodies are elevated, your gut is most likely in pretty bad shape. Treating the gut as a whole instead of just attacking specific parasites seems like a more promising approach, especially if the issues have gone chronic.
- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... Soly047
10 y
1,855
This is a reply to # 2,142,384IGE count of over 2000? OMG. An allergy? You would have an insane skin rash and your body will be burning up LOL! Once again that goes to show that sometimes you know better...
- Re Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEMEN... spence987
10 y
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This is a reply to # 2,142,478I know some of you guys are recommending these so-called natural things, and even "goldenseal". Just for your information, google here on this site and see how thousands of folks who have had "parasites" never got better trying their hand at those so called natural remedies. History matters, and better be informed what has not worked for people in the past, Including myself. One has to have a proper diagnosis, and in the absence of it, one has to be treated empirically. No natural remedy will work to kill "parasites" if you have them. This include so-called special anti- parasite diets. If you cannot eat certain things, have rashes and pain, just eliminating them from your diet will not cure you.
JUST GOOGLE THIS SIITE; and see what folks have tried and failed in the past.
- Re Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEMEN... spence987
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- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... Soly047
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- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... nyckid10
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- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... BrandyS
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- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... missfoxxy
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- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... Soly047
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- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... missfoxxy
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- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... Soly047
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- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... missfoxxy
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- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... BrandyS
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- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... missfoxxy
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- Re: Is this BLOOD in my BOWEL MOVEME... BrandyS
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