Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxicity... 
randomgirl0106
11 y
3,867
† Cross †
Hey, I'm looking for advice.
I'm 22 years old, been sick most of my life. Didn't really start noticing problems til middle school. But before that I had extreme social issues, wouldn't talk to anyone in elementary school, sat alone, had OCD tendencies, was very anxious about social situations, easily upset and angry (manic tendencies) and trouble staying focused. I don't know if this signals something was wrong.
By middle school I had minor physical symptoms: constipation, insomnia (took around 2 hours to fall asleep usually). Developed full blown OCD at 13.
By 14 in high school my insomnia worsened, I started to get discoloration around my eyes. I was tired all the time. My gums were receding. I started to get acne. I got my first period at 15 got really sick, threw up lots and was in a lot of pain, didn't get another period until a year later and they came rarely and irregularly and were always very bad when they did.
I became anorexic around 16, got hospitalized for it was very underweight. Around this time they found I had orthastatic intolerance.
I still do years later after gaining all the weight back. I also developed hypoglycemia and started getting cravings for Sugar hardcore, which have never went away. I also developed depression.
My insomnia became horrible it took around 5 hours average for me to fall asleep and once I did I often knew I was asleep and couldn't wake myself up (sleep paralysis). At 18 I developed anxiety in addition to depression. My bowels started to become mucus like with lots of gas and urgent. I also developed sinus problems, although I always had some, I got chronic post nasal drip.
At 19 my Acne became severe. 20 I was put on birth control, yaz for my Acne as they found I had slightly elevated testosterone. Although it got rid of my Acne I got way sicker.
The same week my acne cleared I got pink eye, tonsilitis and muscle aches and felt so tired I could barely sit up. I was tested for mono, it was negative. So I was given Antibiotics for the tonsilitis and my bowels started to get way worse around this time.
They were always urgent and came out thin, completely undigested and unformed. They have been this way since then.
At one point they were yellow, now they are clay colored undigested and pencil thin. Sorry for the TMI. I also got tonsilitis a few times over since then and strep. Finally I stopped taking the yaz cause I thought it was making me sicker. My acne came back. I started going to a functional doctor. He prescribed me progesterone for my sleep. It didn't work and made me sicker, so I stopped taking it. He just gave me the results of the blood work from my first appointment.
I have very low ferratin levels mine is 13 and its supposed to be around 100, but I dont have anemia he said.
I have low levels of cortisol as shown by a saliva test all throughout the day except at nighttime.
It's 2/3 of what is should be.
I have slightly low thyroid function, but still in the normal range.
Low magnesium and slightly low B12.
My lyme test was negative he had done on me, well one band was positive but overall it was negative. I had one positive lyme test from a year ago with no coinfections however, which I showed him and he decided I actually do have lyme disease.
Now I am suppposed to start on a protocol of 4 Antibiotics next week along with probiotics and Cortef for cortisol.
I am scared to take these things because I can't afford to get any sicker because I'm already so bad I am graduating college in a few weeks and need to be able to work at least part time. My family won't help me out financially because they think I'm a hypochondriac. I'm scared to do the protocol because I don't even know if I have lyme disease.
My mom had 20+ mercury fillings put in before she got pregnant with me so I think I might actually have mercury toxicity. I asked the doctor I'm going to but he said mercury would not cause adrenal fatigue which I have. Is that true? Also I have extereme digestive issues and think I have candida and I'm scared the Antibiotics will make those worse. Also I've heard very bad things about becoming dependent on Cortef. So
I don't know what should I do? The lyme protocol or keep looking for answers and look into heavy metals. I do live in Maryland so I guess I could have lyme but I've never seen a tick bite and I've had issues since I was a kid.
I thought people with lyme start out healthy and then get sick when they catch it.
More
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... Tena Cious
11 y
3,666
This is a reply to # 2,130,725"I asked the doctor I'm going to but he said mercury would not cause adrenal fatigue which I have. Is that true?"
NO. Adrenal fatigue is one of the hallmarks of mercury toxicity. f*** doctors, don´t trust 90% of them. I´ve been to many. I´ve read during countless hours health boards. Good news for you girl I think we know what´s wrong with you. The best treatment is Andy Cutler Chelation. It is relatively cheap but is crucial to do support at the same time, adrenal and more. Get the book if you can, "Amalgam Illness" and look for Support Forums , the yahoo frequent dose chelation is good.
Yeah cortef sucks balls, I would look for alternatives. Natural/healthy alternatives.
Sublingual Melatonin from Douglas Labs works for me. I had hardcore insomnia too, some days I went to sleep when others were waking up (8 AM for example). My sleep is still the f***ing shit, but at least I sleep at the correct hours, it makes a difference.
Good luck and I think you will be going uphill from here.
More
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... joegrane
11 y
3,742
This is a reply to # 2,130,751I agree nearly 100% with Tena Cious. However, for some people with chronic fatigue HC /cortef is really helpful.
Do you understand why your doc suggested progesterone? This seems quite reasonable; however mercury-Hg toxic folks won't convert it down towards cortisol and aldosterone as well as normal people.
I'd start with adrenal *cortex* extract, plenty of vitamin C and B5. Once that is on board, try a little of the progesterone cream.
With that symptom list there is virtually no chance that Hg is not involved. It is such a classic symptom list.
Look into methylation support--B12, folate, etc; however, be careful. Some people don't tolerate more than tiny amounts. It seems safer to take small amounts several times per day.
Don't skimp on magnesium--several times per day. I don't have the time to explain why the body needs these for your symptoms, especially when Hg is involved.
You could get a hair test like 800+ people did. Notice the symptoms lists.
http://livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/hairtest/hairtest3/
Check out hair test #498, from a woman in her 20's with some of your symptoms. She has been grateful for her couple of year of Cutler detox. She'd be happy to chat with you in Frequent Dose Chelation group. If she does not respond to you, let me know, I'll get her to contact you.
The mood symptoms sound so much like Aspergers. I was like that. It is common in the heavy metal groups. People become more introverted. This teen expresses it rather well. After 2+ yrs of Cutler detox, he is taking college classes. He still has a ways to go to be back to normal health.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/64260
This is a good example of how you could improve.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/message/111235
Don't give up! There is hope for you!
Joe
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... joegrane
11 y
3,742
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... 32771
11 y
4,011
This is a reply to # 2,130,725At first glance, I would discount Lyme. I have a relative with it. But I’m no Dr.
My thoughts are to look at the gluten possibility. By saying this, I hope I have not fallen into the trap many before me have found themselves in on CZ: that this one mineral or vitamin or supplement would cure the world of every disease known to mankind. Most on CZ are ones who continue to experiment and research a lot. I am such a person. Even did chelation. Good stuff.
Last month there was a “Gluten Summit” webinar. I was 1 of over 115K worldwide who listened in during this week long of interviews of over 29 Dr, researchers, dieticians. Very informative, but I did not have to be convinced. Over a yr ago my new MD suggested I do a 6 wk trial of going gluten-free. I thought he was crazy, but he wasn’t. I am better than I’ve been for several yrs. The webinar said over 80 problems are caused by wheat. The ones you mentioned are among those mentioned (even the one about iron. Sounds weird doesn’t it?)
My suggestion is for you to do a Google search. Name just one of your problems… then add “and gluten”. Then go to the next issue. See what others have done to improve their health.
Agree to try it for 6 wks. You should see changes for the better within 2-3 wks. Should you CHEAT, and you will, pain and suffering will certainly revisit you.
By the way, it takes a long time to heal the gut, messed up by gluten. Getting off gluten IS the first step. I am now into the first wk of a protocol the webinar mentioned. Altho I see benefits already, I am not ready to comment till more time passes.
I’ve been “preaching” this to others this past yr. To most this is just another “fad”. Hard to convince others until they become convinced themselves. One other item I suggest is to avoid “diet pop” (anything with NutraSweet). I found out the hard way 25 yr ago.
Well, tell me, did I just waste 30 minutes composing this?
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... joegrane
11 y
3,786
This is a reply to # 2,130,790Many mercury--Hg toxic folks, especially the autistic kids, benefit from a low gluten, soy, casein diet. Check out the link between the DPP-IV enzyme, mercury and gluten (search the net). Houston enzymes has a digestive enzyme supplement that includes DPP-IV. I'm not suggesting that the supplement will resolve the problem, but it may allow you to "cheat" at special events. This is somewhat like milk intolerant people who take a digestive enzyme for it.
Joe - Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... randomgirl0106
11 y
3,641
This is a reply to # 2,130,790Thank you. I've been gluten free for 4 months actually. And dairy and Sugar free and haven't had any diet soda in around 6 months. Also no fake sweeteners.It hasnt really helped at all though.
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... joegrane
11 y
3,786
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... Tena Cious
11 y
3,670
This is a reply to # 2,130,725Gluten free, casein free, soja free and corn free diet is basic for chronic illness that involves the gut. I think you have HG toxicity though.
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... 32771
11 y
3,849
This is a reply to # 2,130,858I wish to apologize to those suggesting mercury. When writing my thoughts were not to criticize the other posters. I had a mindset of those who were adamant when touting things like Vit C and everything they write is pro Vit C which is not true of of those on this thread. Perhaps I too, have become similar in nature, sorry.
Yes, the mercury could have easily passed from the mother, plus all the vaccinations containing mercury (Thermarisol) and any dental Amalgams over the yrs. I am unaware of all the symptoms. And the gluten sensitivity could be from more than the hybrid wheat alone. Look at all the environmental triggers possible today that we didn’t have 50 yr ago. My thoughts are that the elimination of gluten should be easy to do and at little expense and can quickly determine in a few wks if any improvement. My experience has shown few are willing to try it. My merc detox took a yr and well over $1.5K .
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... mygutleaks
11 y
3,874
This is a reply to # 2,130,997hey Random, my guess would be you have severe gut dysbiosis - leaky gut, candida, SIBO - from the Antibiotics . These are made worse by mercury toxicity, plus contribute to mer tox because the mercury chelating bacteria are killed off from the gut. All this causes adrenal fatigue, insomnia, OCD, rashes, Sugar cravings, gas, stomach pains, depression, acne, infections, Chronic-Fatigue-Syndrome - all the symptoms you've mentioned. The good news is, all of these are completely reversible given enough time.
my suggestions would be to start the GAPS diet (gapsdiet.com) right away. 1 to 3 years of this will help rebalance you. (stick to mostly veggies/meat/fats and not fruit/honey - since fruit/honey feed candida). You are still young and should heal quicker than others. kefir, kombucha, fermented foods are important. probably start with kefir first, then add kombucha if you can tolerate it, and other fermented foods too - you can buy kefir grains from Amazon and make your own very cheaply. Kombucha you can get from Mom's Organic market, whole foods, Dave's Natural Market (get GT Dave's raw) - and you can make a scoby from the kombucha and grow your own, or buy a scoby on amazon. Mom's also sells real fermented sauerkraut. You can make own fermented veggies too - although I would test them all first. I didn't tolerate kombucha or fermented veggies for a while. kefir I did, but first had to get through the initial reaction. all the recipes are online. all this is like 99% cheaper (and MUCH more powerful) than buying store bought probiotics. you can also add in natural antifungals like coconut oil. but don't focus on just the candida, as I did (or any one aliment). the whole body has to rebalance before each of these will go away. and this includes getting the mercury out. So in addition to GAPS, you could begin chelation for mercury. follow the Cutler program - I just started my chelation after over 1 year of GAPS/candida diet. I wish I had done them all in conjunction. Or at least started chelation sooner. You might give your body some time on just GAPS, in order to detoxify some, and then start chelation later in the process.
For treating parasites, I like Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth (amazon). It also helps the skin hair and nails. The GAPS diet author also recommends S Boulardii, which is a probiotic that is worth buying. Although you get SB from raw Kombucha as well. You can buy S Boulardii from David's Natural Market or online from sites like iherb.com.
for me, I would get Acne from many foods. I've been able to clear my skin 100%, even without fully eliminating mercury, candida. I def had SIBO, probably parasites. I started all this to clear my skin. Going gluten/milk/peanut/soy free, made a huge difference, but it still wasn't perfect.. so then I found other foods that bothered me. and then I started eating so few things, that I eventually became allergic to those - and then I learned about candida, and that was over 2 years ago.
don't buy too many supps - spend your money on good quality food - avocadoes, grass fed beef, lamb, good eggs. Also you might want to do an Elimination Diet with GAPS foods. although as you reduce your candida, any allergies should start to go away as the gut wall begins to seal. you don't have to buy the GAPS book - the FAQ on her site is good and that with the food list should be sufficient - the book is more for autistic children (they have mega-dysbiosis and mercury). you can probably also get by w/o Cutler's book. If you get major die-off you can buy molybdenum amino acid chelate and take 150mg to 250mg 1 or 2x per day (no more than 750mg/day) and that will help with candida toxins. Ornithine will help with parasite die-off.
best of luck,
-MGL
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... randomgirl0106
11 y
3,663
This is a reply to # 2,130,997Thanks I have already spent $900 and I am not better at all. I'm scared to spend more and treat the wrong illness and make myself sicker. If I get any sicker I won't be able to work even part time (which is all I can do now unfortunately). I have been gluten free for 4 months and have not noticed any significant improvement. However I work at a sandwich shop and I'm not sure if breathing it in could make me sick? How did you detox mercury and get tested for it?
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... mygutleaks
11 y
3,874
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... randomgirl0106
11 y
3,689
This is a reply to # 2,130,858Yeah I probably do. The thing is when you get lyme for a long time as far as I know your body loses the ability to detox mercury so you become mercury toxic. Which is why people with it get so sick I believe. So I'm not sure if the problem is I just have lyme and need to get rid of that so I can detox mercury or if I don't have lyme and just happen to be mercury toxic. I don't want to make a mistake and treat the wrong thing, so I don't know what to do.
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... Tena Cious
11 y
3,743
This is a reply to # 2,131,106You should do this. Buy a bottle of 25mgs or less of ALA and take a pill every 3 hours for say a day. If you feel really better or worse that means you are mercury toxic.
There are tests for lyme. For mercury tests sucks, they are useless IMO. I would test lyme if you have enough significant symptoms. 20 Amalgams in your mother is telling though.- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... mygutleaks
11 y
3,719
This is a reply to # 2,131,178if you read the GAPS FAQ on the website, the Dr. discusses how we all have various bacteria, viruses, fungi, etc., including Lyme - and that we shouldn't try to necessarily kill it all off, but rather eat in a way that boosts our immune system to keep everything in check. And that slowly over time, our body detoxifies and goes back in to balance. You are guaranteed to have some mercury in your body - so ALA will probably make you feel blah the first few times you take it - just guessing here. Not saying not to do it - just suggesting that if you want quick relief from symptoms, GAPS or a Primal-type diet, might clear your skin quicker than anything, and get the detoxifying process started.
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... mygutleaks
11 y
3,719
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... Tena Cious
11 y
3,743
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... 32771
11 y
3,849
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... King13
11 y
3,725
This is a reply to # 2,130,725Ok, so first off, it's important to address your state of liver toxicity because when you take Antibiotics , anti depressants, live with negative emotions etc it can clog up your liver. You and I are in very similar boats because I thought for a long time that all of my symptoms were from lyme disease and metal toxicity. First off, you should start doing Liver Flushes ASAP following the Andreas Moritz protocol(that is what I did), you should switch to a primarily vegan diet( I used to be against it but when I switched to a diet of mostly raw organic fruits, veggies, beans, rice, nuts, seeds etc I feel 100% better and my OCD has almost disappeared. Second, in terms of heavy metals, I had better luck with Chlorella and Cilanto. I tried the Cutler method to the dot using ALA and DMPS and it screwed me up big time for a few months up until I started doing the liver flushes. If you really do have Lyme disease, Teasel Root with Oil of Oregano will help big time, along with Coladial Silver. For mercury toxicity, steer clear of anything that will cause your body to have to work harder to detoxify itself like Antibiotics . Do some research on the chlorella cilantro method and other things like Sea Algeas, Mung Beans, Plant Based MSM, will help as well. Drinking Andreas's kidney cleanse tea won't hurt either. Good luck on your path towards recovery.
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... King13
11 y
3,680
This is a reply to # 2,131,503No disrespect to the poster above but doing the paleo thing during Andy Cutlers protocol made me feel absolutely horrible, I didn't properly recover until I moved to a more 80/10/10ish type diet. Although I wasn't following that lifestyle to the T, I think you will feel much better on a vegan diet, esp since the only difference between you and I was that I have chronic MONO and metal toxicity. A book by Andreas Moritz called Timeless Secrets of Health and Rejuvination may help you tremendously.
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... Tena Cious
11 y
3,652
This is a reply to # 2,131,504Yes, my experience too. f*** paleo lol go on carbs and all natural, sometimes raw, sometimes organic food.
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... Tena Cious
11 y
3,652
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... joegrane
11 y
3,643
This is a reply to # 2,131,503RandomGirl, I don't recall you describing symptoms of MCS but be careful with "kidney cleanses". Your liver and kidneys are not pipes that need to be scrubbed clean. HMs mess up various chemical pathways (chemical reactions). Your body may not be able to get rid of some of the resulting chemicals as robustly as normal people can.
Some of us who have high cadmium get lower abdominal pain when we kick up the Cd without careful planning. Cd can get stuck in the kidneys if not chelated carefully. I am one. This Curezone member may be another.
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1007420#i
Btw. He was not actually doing Cutler's protocol because he was skipping night doses. Cutler warns that people with mood symptoms may get a worsening of symptoms when they skip doses. I fear we lost this member when she stopped taking night doses.
http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/files/hairtest_275.pdf
I'm not trying to frighten you from doing detox! However, in my 3.5 yrs in the detox groups there have been many wonderfully encouraging reports along with many reports from those who made mistakes along the way. Sadly many of the mistakes were made by people who were doing what a doctor told them to do. Detox for long-term (chronic) Hg exposure does not have standard procedures/protocols that doctors were taught in med school. This a new area of medicine. Detox protocols designed for otherwise healthy men who were exposed to Hg in a chemical factory accident don't usually work so well for chronically sick people. Such people usually need a more gentle approach.
You are wise to discuss the options and proceed carefully. I discussed the issue with my functional medicine doctor. I chose against the IV and infrequent dose oral methods that he uses. He was not opposed to Cutler's protocol although he thought it was unnecessarily conservative.
ATB
Joe
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... King13
11 y
3,680
- Re: Lyme or Mercury/Heavy Metal Toxi... Tena Cious
11 y
3,666
Share:
Translate This Page: