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I ATTEMPTED TO ATTACH MY TEST RESULTS, BUT COULDN'T SEE HOW
A couple of years ago I started having major fatigue. I also suffer from anxiety. I saw a bunch of doctors who told me it was a side effect of the anti depressants. When I got off of them I was told that it was a byproduct of anxiety or that I was a hypochondriac. I don’t have much faith in doctors any longer.
Desperate for answers, I decided to get a cardio ion panel ( http://www.metametrix.com/test-menu/profiles/integrated-profiles/cardio-ion
) test done and contact Dr Sherry Rogers for a phone consult. The test was $800 out of pocket and $600 bucks to talk to Sherry. I am attaching the test results – fasting/may 2013. She told me that I had a “ton” of deficiencies and gave me a list of vitamins to take (I am attaching that list as well). I spoke to her a couple of months later for a half hour ($300) and she answered some more questions. I just couldn’t afford to talk to her anymore. I was also getting overwhelmed by taking all of that stuff. The fact that the vitamins cost 800 bucks to start and another few hundred a month. Couple the expense with the fact that she is difficult to schedule consults with made this no longer an option.
I heard a Doctor on the radio ( http://drcalapai.net/
) named Dr Calapai. I decided to see him and get a second opinion. He had me do a ton of testing that he told me would be covered by insurance (I hope so as it says 19,000 on my health insurance site). He wanted to do allergy testing etc (I had some done in the past) which would be another 800 bucks out of pocket. I decided against that. I am attaching those results too – not fasting (dr didn’t want me to) october 2013. The course of action that he proposed:
Vitamin b-12 shots two times a week
Testosterone shots 1cc once a week
Vitamin C iv once a week
Vitamin D3 – 5000iu once a day and shots twice a month
Less carbs
Glucose tolerance test
He said that I have 3 out of the 4 markers for Epstein Barr
He also wanted to test my urine for metals
He also said I had aluminum and should get chelation or peroxide iv
He said my cholesterol was ok
It is a 4 hour drive and he is an out of network physician so I decided to get another opinion before proceeding. I also was hesitant.
The next doctor that I saw said no to the testosterone – since my free is fine. She also said not to do the Vitamin C iv, but just take tablets. She was ok with the D and B12. She wanted me to see and endocrinologist for the testosterone and a cardiologist for the cholesterol. She said not to worry about the Epstein barr.
I spoke to my primary care on the phone. I have an appointment to see him in a couple of weeks. He still wants me to go gluten free.
A friend of mine suggested that I talk to her chiropractor/naturopath. He mentioned that I had low LDH. He also suggested going gluten free. He agreed with the vitamin D. The LDH wasn’t mentioned by anyone else. My testing also showed that I have very low vitamin C. I read that large doses of vitamin C can lower LDH further.
I saw the Endocrinologist who said not to worry about the cholesterol or testosterone. He said that the testosterone injections can keep your body from producing it properly in the future
I am attaching the two tests. The cardio ion was done fasting. The October 2013 testing was not. I am also attaching the list of vitamins that I was taking (I have since discontinued)
Obviously at this point, I am tired, overwhelmed and confused.
What should I be taking?
How much D3?
Dr Mark Hyman says that when taking these large dosages of Vitamin D3 that
Monitor your vitamin D status until you are in the optimal range. If you are taking high doses (10,000 IU a day) your doctor must also check your calcium, phosphorous, and parathyroid hormone levels every 3 months.
Do I need to do that? And what about this
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/12/17/magnesium-benef...
Should I get testosterone injections? Vitamin C injections?
Some of the vitamins that Sherry had me taking (the K, The selenium) were through the roof. This makes me confused on what I should be taking
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First, you did not mention your approximate age which is important.
>- The next doctor that I saw said no to the testosterone – since my free is fine.
Many many doctors do not understand things such as nutrition, vitamins, minerals, supplements, and hormones.
They look at the level that you have and compare it to what they normally see for a the average person of the same approximate age. That is a failed concept.
What you want for any measured physiological reading is OPTIMUM! You do not want normal vitamin D3, because 90 percent of all people are deficient in D3. You want Optimum.
The same is true for K2 especially, as well as for other vitamins and minerals.
For hormones such as Testosterone, look back over your life to that point when you were last at a sexual peak, about 30 years of age. What you want is optimum hormone levels for a 30 year old in order to stay in optimum health for the rest of your life.
Doctors are poorly trained to understand health and longevity, so you have to educate them.
However, before taking injections of testosterone, do it as natural as possible. Your body makes almost all of its hormones from a precursor, DHEA. DHEA is normally manufactured in the adrenal glands but they slack off with age. Try to naturally boost this function but if you can not, start with DHEA supplements.
It is best to take DHEA when first waking because the adrenals usually make it while you are sleeping. The body then converts this to various hormones.
You want to optimize your DHEA to that of a healthy 30 year old. Once you achieve that, allow a month before checking your free and bound testosterone.
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This is a reply to # 2,126,316Thanks for the reply. I am 35 years old
I don’t know if there is a way to post my records/results or if I can send an attachment with a pdf.
Here are some of my results
I looked at some old tests. One was done when the Urologist was evaluating my Variococele. In 2009 my Testosterone was 377 ng/dL. My Free Testosterone was 11.1 pg/ML
In April of this year I had the Cardio Ion panel test done. It was done fasting. Here are some of the results:
Lipoprotein Factors
Total Cholesterol 205 mg/dL
HDL Cholesterol 57 mg/dL
LDL Cholesterol (Direct) 138 mg/dL
Triglycerides 87 mg/dL
Lipoprotein (a) 46 mg/dL
Lipoprotein Ratios
LDL/HDL 2.4
Total/HDL 3.6
Insulin 5.4 ulu/Ml
Testosterone 332 ng/dL
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin 26 nmol/L
Free Androgen Index (calc) 44.3
Copper 713 ppb
Aluminum 58 ppb
Arsenic 7.0 ppb
Cadmium 0.42
Mercury <0.78
Vitamin D – serum
25-Hydroxyvitamin D 25.5
25-Hydroxyvitamin D2 3.4
25-Hydroxyvitamin D3 22.1
I got some more bloodwork done in October 2013. It was done not fasting (as per the Dr)
Of note:
Homocysteine 13.5 Umol/L
Lactate Dehydrogenase LDH 156 U/l LOW
Vitamin B12 583 pg/mL
Cholesterol 183 mg/dL
LDL calculation 92.8
Chol/HDL ratio 3.33
HDL cholesterol 55mg/dL
Triglycerides 176 mg/dL
Testosterone total 236 ng/dl
Testosterone FREE 56
Free Testosterone % 2.37
Vitamin B6 high at 45.5 ng/mL
Ab sorbic acid <0.12 mg/dL
Vitamin K 4343 pg/mL – high
LDL Particle Number 1615 nmol/L – High
LDL cholesterol 116 mg/dL
Triglycerides 174 mg/dL
Cholesterol , total 210 mg/dL
Small LDL Particle number 713 High
Vitamin D,1,25 OH 2 total 85 pg/mL
Vtiman d3 85
Vitamin d2 <8
At this point I am so sick of dealing with all of this…taking all of this. I can’t find a competent doctor and I don’t want to keep dealing with all of this. One of the main reasons that I started this was because of my fatigue and anxiety. At this point, this is making me tired and anxious. I just want to head off any problems – disease etc.
One of the things that is confusing to me: If I take one thing, do I have to take another to balance it out (for example if you are taking this amount of D you need to take calcium and other stuff). I just want a simple plan. I also don’t want to take too much of anything and be over where I should be and have a problem. How often should you be getting blood tests?
How do I optimize my DHEA? By taking it? Is there any detriment to taking it? How much and what brand/type should I be taking?
Is there any detriment to taking DHEA?
Should I keep taking the d3 (5000 a day)
Should I worry about the vitamin C, Cholesterol and LDH?
Thank you in advance
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This is a reply to # 2,126,840Your D3 looks to be just above what some sources consider to be optimum of 78 which is probably not bad.
D should definitely be balance with Calcium, K2, Magnesium, and Zinc.
>- How do I optimize my DHEA? By taking it?
First, get a baseline reading before taking it. This way you can compare the amount that you take in relation to the change that it produces. After taking the amount suggested for about a month, your will want to retest to see how much change has occurred and re-adjust the dosage. Your health pro can help?
>- Is there any detriment to taking it?
Not normally since it is a hormone that the body is supposed to be producing. However, in vitro studies indicate that it increases the growth rate of some cancers such as some breast cancers, ovarian, uterine, prostate, and testicular cancer ( but so does testosterone ). For this reason, you might not want to take DHEA if you have one of these cancers.
However, DHEA is also an immune booster and most people with cancer tend to have lower DHEA, it might actually be an advantage to take DHEA to fight cancer. I do not find any studies done on this, but Animal studies have shown that DHEA is very effective in preventing breast cancer, From http://www.lef.org
.
I take 50 to 100 mg daily, depending. I also take Melatonin which may be the most important immunity hormone that the body makes. D-3, DHEA, and Melatonin are all critical.
Something that I noticed is the Triglycerides.
Everyone should be aware, do not eat or drink anything except water for 12 hours before having your blood test, especially if you are having glucose or triglycerides tested ( unless the instruct you to ). Health professionals often do not care or forget to mention it.
All of the above is not medical advise but is just my opinion.
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This is a reply to # 2,126,899Thank you again. My Triglycerides were 176 when tested in October not fasting. The Dr (http://drcalapai.net/) didn't want to do testing fasting because it wasn't as accurate. You fast, test, then eat and the number is completely different. That was his rationale
When I fasted in April and had a Cardio Ion Panel done were the following:
Total Cholesterol 205 mg/dL
HDL 57 mg/dL
LDL 138 mg/dL
Is cholesterol the only thing that you generally need to fast for?
As far as the DHEA. My DHEA Sulfate was 369 ug/dl in October (again, not fasting - relevant?). Should I still supplement? What are the best ways to naturally raise testosterone? I have a varicocele. I don't know if that is relevant.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,130,001Don't be upset, my friend. I'm sure as you are in treatment, you are going to be cure. Self confidence is most important. Hope get well soon:) good luck.
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This is a reply to # 2,126,840I am not a doctor so most of numbers mean nothing to me, except vitamin C is very low, the 'adrenal gland' and eyes use and need a constant supply of 'vitamin C'. 'Research' DHEA has side effects, vitamins do not. You seem to have a toxic metal problem which is also taken care of by vitamins.
At your age, four to six grams a day of vit, C, one each, multi vitamin, multi B vit,and one multi mineral. From one to six weeks should show a big improvement as long as you don’t use refined sugars, oils soft drinks, junk food, all toxic and weaken the immune system. The vitamins will cost less than 40 cents a day. Research ‘doctoryourself.com’ …dez...
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