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hello i was just wondering if someone was using the marijuana plant non stop, all day, from dusk till dawn, while drinking his own urine and Water Fasting would it effect the entire healing process? would it interfere with the liver? And how do you know for sure? keep in mind that he wouldn't be using toxic lighters and or blunt wraps-- he would be using a glass pipe and a magnifying glass to vaporize it so that he can inhale the energy of the sun and the spirit of herb.
THC stores in fat therefore if one is fasting wouldn't the fat be burned up in the end along with the THC?- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... ggxx
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This is a reply to # 2,091,250Lol. Someone should quit doing shit that's bad for them and wonder what excuses to make to justify it.
Just do the water.
- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... chirontherainbowbridge
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This is a reply to # 2,091,250"using the marijuana plant non stop, all day, from dusk till dawn, while drinking his own urine and water fasting"...
= just hard to fathom. Esp. the grass part (as we used to call it.) Falls under the category of extreme experimentation. ( Don't underestimate the 'power' of simple sungazing, sans magnifying glass.) Also, doesn't have much to do with "water only fasting", the name of the forum. But okay--On the whole, I would say, it sounds like someone would be working at cross-purposes, in terms of accomplishing healing. Too much going on, and in, when the whole brilliant and essential foundation of wfasting is to simplify, let the body manage its own resources in its own innate body-wisdom (that we seldom if EVER allow it)--in short, to let go, and (let grace) release.
this WAS a serious post, was it? Just curious.
:-)
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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This is a reply to # 2,091,250Horrible idea. There's already an organ that absorbs the "energy of the sun"- your skin.
As for the "spirit of herb", there is no "spirit" of "herb", other than a malevolent, purple eyed parasitic vampire of the matrix. The same goes for all mind altering drugs with NO exception.
Whenever you are dealing with mind or consciousness altering drugs, have NO DOUBT that you are absolutely, unequivocally dealing with a product of archonic mind control and deep soul manipulation. Obviously these have nothing to do with healing or fasting.- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... SpiritualHeartYogi
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This is a reply to # 2,091,634I disagree with you Michael B only because it was the marijuana plant that helped me to awaken to my true self
- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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This is a reply to # 2,092,392Some people get a bullet fired into their head that leads to them awakening. Others, a two by four. My point is, there is no causal relationship.
Furthermore this "awaken into my true self" talk- by its own nature- spells out its shortcoming and falsehood. Why? Because a "true" self implies a "false" self from which you "awakened from", which is sheer archonic new age propaganda to further dissociate the human spirit from the mind and body. There is no "true self" that you awaken into. That's just silly. Your Self is as true and immediate as your mind and body that you read these words from. What could be more simple and natural?
- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... pathfinder78
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”I was surprised by the effectiveness of it, and I wasn’t hungry.”
You're just as crazy as the OP, but not in the kooky good way.
I've already done it. It stimulated hunger the entire time and made the process basically miserable. Besides, anything that your body has to clean out and process is going to interfere with the healing process.
As for awakening the true self, cannabis can do that. Any substance, or experience for that matter, that stimulates new pathways of neuronal firing that had previously hardened into the "broken record" of the false ego, or mask, can be useful to reawakening you to your divinity. It's why shamans have been incorporating hallucinogens into their guided spirit walks for millenia.
Pay no attention to the prohibitionist who blathers on and on about bullets and two-by-fours.- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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This is a reply to # 2,093,366What an ignorant post and an insult to my heritage. Native Americans haven't always done hallucinogens. Our people have been here since the dawn of time, long before the petty parasites you worship came here and introduced their mind poison.
There are cases of rape survivors who are so traumatized that they leave their body, opening their mind to other aspects of their being. Does this make a rape a viable tool for awakening? Are you seriously proposing that any form of trauma, such as having your soul torn out of your body and floating drained by the marijuana parasite is a viable pathway to awakening? Sheer nonsense.
Your thoroughly ungrounded state of dissociation is mirrored by your erroneous neo-hippy psuedo spiritual dogma that the ego is a "false" self. Pure rubbish. Just because some pot smoking "guru" in india said the ego is bad and false, doesnt make it true. It really doesn,t matter how many of you people say it- truth is impervious to your ignorance. The ego needs to be integrated, and marijuana greatly impedes this process.
Hop back into your body and then maybe you won't sound so whacky.- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... SpiritualHeartYogi
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”I was surprised by the effectiveness of it, and I wasn’t hungry.”
I'll assume you've never ingested the cannabis plant before nor the psilocybin mushroom. Only because these substances helped to awaken me to a deeper loving spiritual side to myself and can't understand why it wouldn't do the same for you. It was also these experiences that allowed me to look at death right in the face and see it for what it was. You sound as if your expressing anger in some of your posts which gives me reason to believe that you are very inexperienced in this topic.- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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This is a reply to # 2,093,519-Passion in my first post, because the truth must be spoken.
-Anger in my reply to mr. Pot head because of his name calling, weak minded spewing of pop culture psuedo spiritual *fads*, and personal insults. But I expect nothing else from a pot head.
And contrary to what you assume, it is by virtue of my experience that I have wisdom with this topic, which is all the more reason why I must express the Truth- because far, FAR too many people are ignorant of the realities behind their activities.
All hallucinogenic substances, with NO exception, have been hacked into or deliberately created for the SPECIFIC purpose of sabotaging the awakening and liberation of mankind. Of course there is going to be some pleasure benefit to mind control substance- how else would you trick psuedo spiritual liberal new agers to ingest it?
See, they no longer can get you to drink fluoride or sneak mercury into your body because you are *awakened*, so they get you through other means. Ever wonder where the "new age" movement comes from? Look it up.
There is a saying, it's easier to catch a fly with Sugar than vinegar. Once you inbibe the Sugar coated psuedo spiritual new age lollipop of hallucinogens, you have given permission on a deep soul level for malevolent parasites to use you for whatever their aims may be. Some are raised as "enlightened" cattle specifically to be used to influence as wide a population as possible to further their agenda and sabotage humanity's true awakening. Of course they are not going to show their true faces. They will trick you yet again by showing up as nature spirits, guides, "galactic core consciousness", loving beings of light, "Earth", Oneness, "all-that-is"- whatever it takes to deceive you and sabotage you.
Is it really so far fetched that malevolent parasites who have been harvesting human souls for eons are capable of masquerading as loving and wise beings? Wake up people, God has been hacked. Hallucinogens have been hacked. The afterlife has been hacked.
WHY do you think they want you to reincarnate ane believe in a big grand loving scheme? Because they want to continue using you for food.
Wake up people. Now is the time.- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... pathfinder78
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This is a reply to # 2,093,602Well, all I have to say to this fanatic is, the National Institutes of Health and the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine disagree with him. They have been conducting spirit walks with end-of-life patients using psilocybin under carefully guided controls for many years now under the auspices of the DEA. The spiritual advancements demonstrated by these patients, to include improved family relationships, have been incredible and published in many peer-reviewed journals. It is true that there is much quackery in the New Age movement, but this doesn't qualify as part of that. So, the fanatic will have to find another angle into which to drive his wedge.Advertisement
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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This is a reply to # 2,093,610Give me a break. So some T.V. watching, fast food eating, mercury laiden, fluoridated, institutionalized, unconscious, self-hating somnambulic sheep have abused their bodies to the point of near death are all of a sudden made aware that there is more to their them than being a sleeping disaster, and all of a sudden drugs are some kind of miraculous spiritual enhancer?
Want to know how to improve family relations? Stop taking drugs and start taking responsibility instead.- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... pathfinder78
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This is a reply to # 2,093,722Actually they're cancer patients; they're all highly aware of what they're doing and very carefully screened beforehand; and they cannot ever have used psychotropic drugs at any other time in their lives. Your argument is getting weaker, but I enjoy kicking people like you when they're down.
"Your thoroughly ungrounded state of dissociation is mirrored by your erroneous neo-hippy psuedo spiritual dogma that the ego is a "false" self. Pure rubbish. ... The ego needs to be integrated, and marijuana greatly impedes this process."
Your argument is based on semantics. If you have to integrate something, that means it's been dissociated. If it's been dissociated, then it cannot be a true representation of who you are. If it's not a true representation of who you are, then its representation of you is false. Q.E.D.
As for tetrahydrocannabinol, it's clear you don't know a thing about it, or the receptors God built into our brains to be able to use it. You probably didn't even know that the human brain manufactures small amounts of LSD.
I consider this argument won, and will no longer continue to be either a channel for your anger or a sounding board for your ignorance. Good luck with both.- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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”I was surprised by the effectiveness of it, and I wasn’t hungry.”
Something that has been dissociated is false because it cannot represent Its original self? So if I cut an orange in half, neither piece represents the orange because they are dissociated and false? I suppose the *true* essence of the orange has absolutely nothing to do with the orange?
So if a parasitic plant pulls your soul out of your body (feeling "high"?), the part of you that has left is false because it has become dissociated?
What on earth have you been smoking? Don't answer that, I don't want you to pop a blood vessel in your archon-given THC recepticle.- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... SpiritualHeartYogi
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This is a reply to # 2,093,975Michael it's best to trust your own experience and not to project your own limited fear based ideas onto other people. We are all here to wake up out of ignorance, not just you. The truth is, to me, is that we all exist as one pure untouched formless essence Consciousness awareness Light which is always one with God, which IS God and beyond all of these manifestations exists forever and ever. We are all loved equally by the ONE God Creator at all times. The mushroom eater will not be more condemned than the one who didn't eat the mushroom. No reason to freak out.
- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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This is a reply to # 2,094,402I don't have any fear, or beliefs for that matter. I do have wisdom however. You seem to be the one projecting.
And, this has nothing to do with condemnation from God. It does however have everything to do with becoming a whole human being. If it is one's sincere intention to become a whole human being, I can absolutely guarantee you that hallucinogens work strongly against that intention.
- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... pathfinder78
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”I was surprised by the effectiveness of it, and I wasn’t hungry.”
"So if I cut an orange in half, neither piece represents the orange because they are dissociated and false?"
Yes. Without integration, neither half is a true representation of the whole. In the case of the ego, it goes around pretending it is the whole orange. It has orange-like qualities, of course, being at one point part of the whole orange. And, its integration with the other half is required for the other half to be representative of the whole as well. But in the end, a half of an orange does not an orange make.- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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This is a reply to # 2,094,426I am honestly shocked to find your reply lacking in any ad-hominem attack. Great, now we can actually have a meaningful discussion. I sincerely hope you learn something from this.
Your argument is basically that a dissociated piece of self is false, because it cannot represent the whole. Well, guess what? God, all-that-is, infinite totality or whatever you want to call it *cannot be whole without your ego*. That's right. Because the ego IS an aspect of God. So really, you are saying tha God is false because it is not whole therefore cannot represent the whole, or according to your own semantics, that your 'True' self is actually a 'false' self. As you can see, your reasoning leads nowhere and doesn't hold water.
This is precisely why the ego must be *integrated*, because you CANNOT be your "true" self without it. Neither can 'all that is' be whole without it as a funtioning, integrated aspect.
Do realize that it is crtically important for "god", the collective, to be connected and integrated with the ego, just as it is critically important for you, the collective, to be connected to your cells. What happens when the communication lapses? Cancer. Disease. And whose fault is it? Ahhhh... It's not the cell's fault now is it?
Thus, any substance that separates mind from body or consciousness from mind or any aspect of ones being is NOT helping one to awaken to any notion of a true self, period. Drugs, especially parasitic plants that dissociate soul from body are especially harmful.- Michale B is a luntic. dont listen t... spence987
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This is a reply to # 2,094,538think twice about what this lunatic man does; he is a troll, not having anything to do, lingering around here, only to mislead people; asking people to eat dirt, and saying he can trap ghosts, etc... read what kinds of lunatic things he does. Keep on electrocuting yourself fool.....
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”I was surprised by the effectiveness of it, and I wasn’t hungry.”
- Michale B is a luntic. dont listen t... spence987
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... SpiritualHeartYogi
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... pathfinder78
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... pathfinder78
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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- Michael B is a lunatic spence987
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,093,405YOu are the idiot Michale B. Who would ever take a word you seriously, trolling these forums saying these lunatic things.. get a taste of what he says...
think twice about what this lunatic man does; he is a troll, not having anything to do, lingering around here, only to mislead people; asking people to eat dirt, and saying he can trap ghosts, etc... read what kinds of lunatic things he does.
Keep on electrocuting you lunatic....
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- Re: Michael B is a lunatic SpiritualHeartYogi
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... SpiritualHeartYogi
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... eqtyin
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This is a reply to # 2,093,366these people are idiots. yes, thc is absorbed into the fat cells but also into the nervous system and bloodstream. if there is no food in your stomach your lungs will not work to digest the food, so the effects of thc including: apoptotic effects, anti-angiogenesis, and the speeding up of cell division (ie metabolism) will be more active in your system.
people need to realize marijuana is a plant used for hundreds of thousands of years by ancient societies as medicine. Water Fasting and marijuana is probably one of the most beneficial things you can do.
the only problem would be in psychological states. the reason weed causes hunger is because it is most active in parts of the brain responsible for controlling fear responses, thus people who smoke marijuana tend to eat when feeling apprehension.Advertisement
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... Michael B
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... SpiritualHeartYogi
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- Re: fasting while smoking marijuana.... ggxx
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