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danielxmiller
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This question is for those who are in the more advanced stages of the constant moisture theory...
when the skin peels is the skin underneath still red/raw? Was it in the beginning? Do you think it's coming off too early if it's red underneath and sensitive to touch? I dunno if the shower is causing it to come off too early for me or not, but when I touch the skin it like moves around and falls off...dunno what I should do, not get my lips wet in the shower and just keep it moisturized all the time? Just really really really don't want to set myself back, because I know when it turns red it sets an alarm off in the body to hurry and heal that area and the skin grows faster there....
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- Re: skin peeling danielxmiller
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This is a reply to # 2,034,984I'm just like sooo sick of this, it's very frustrating....I can't even quit my job which is the most annoying part.
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This is a reply to # 2,034,986When I use some kind of cream/ointment/lotion etc. on my lips a few times per day, like I am doing at the moment, when I do let my lips get wet in the shower, the build up basically comes of on its own, I don't even have to do a lot of manual peeling at all.
This is pretty much what I've been doing the last couple of months. Let the skin build up for about a week until it does get very uncomfortable and noticable. I use Protopic at night and two different moisturizers once or twice a day. During that time I do not let the lips get wet in the shower. Then when I do let them get wet, most of the build up comes off on its own (you can see the process in the Picture Gallery ). I don't even have to put my face into the water stream, it comes off quite easily.
The skin underneath (especially on the top lip) is not all that red. It's somewhat sensitive because there are layers missing obviously, but it doesn't seem to matter when I do the peeling. It does get more sensitive and pretty uncomfortable when I use a moisturizer during the next 1-2 days, because the lips both get pretty sticky that way and when letting the lips touch, it somewhat hurts. But that depends on what product I use on the lips during that time. After 1-2 days, when enough new skin has build up, the problem gets less.
So even though your lips do look good, I was actually thinking about if it may be the shower peeling your lips, at least some parts of them to some extent.
And yea, it's the most frustrating thing ever :-)
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- Re: skin peeling danielxmiller
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This is a reply to # 2,034,993yeah I'm thinking I should stop letting the water touch them in the shower honestly, because that's the only time they come off...it's so annoying not knowing what to do....- Re: skin peeling sirpreis
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This is a reply to # 2,034,995Yea, the uncertainty is one of the most annoying/frustrating parts of the condition..
- Re: skin peeling UserX
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,035,001i think water is good, but not when it takes the crusts off. Some of my crusts (on the right side of my lip) came off when i put water on it & the skin underneath was red (mind you i kept this crust on for more that 2 weeks). Another crust that was on for more than 2 weeks came off (left side of lip) by itself & the skin underneath was great. So i think water does help crusts come off prematurely.
As for moisturizing, when using this schederma cream, crusts can stay on for a loong time! I guess its because it turns the crusts into lips texture, so its like pasted on. But when i use different oils (crab/coconut oil) they harden the crusts up.
To be honest with you i see the most improvement when i only use the schederma cream until it crusts build up so thick that it falls off on its own. But most of the time im too eager to get them off, so i use coconut oil to get them off quicker.- Re: skin peeling Healing2021
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This is a reply to # 2,035,018Daniel,
When my buildup came off it was always red/raw/inflamed underneath. Until the inflammation completely goes away it will be this way. But there is also a difference between how inflamed it feels when it comes of naturally as opposed to it coming of premature. You just have to judge for yourself whether they are peeling prematurely or naturally.
And yeah you definitely shouldn't let the water hit your lips in the shower, especially if its causing them to come off. Whenever I shower I just wash my face afterwards when I get out.
If you absolutely as careful as possible in every way then you will know that your causing as little trauma as possible. But you have to think of stuff like not letting the shower peel your lips. Absolutely anything that could cause them to come off prematurely must be avoided.- Re: skin peeling Vunk
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This is a reply to # 2,035,027As long as you don't wash with a pressure washer it shouldn't cause harm. Wet his lips doesn't cause trauma, in fact, it depends of your water pressure. Also, avoid warm water.
Btw Healing did you post a picture as asked by the community?- Re: skin peeling MikePylon
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This is a reply to # 2,035,040i'm at that point as well daniel... it's a tough call, as your lips heal the skin is looser and looser... my buildup came off when i was sleeping the other night... right now i'm using prevex which is a waxy barrier cream... keeps the buildup intact pretty well but you have to apply a layer of a moisturizer over it esp when sleeping or your lips will stick together.
also.. take baths.- Re: skin peeling Evrythngfine
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This is a reply to # 2,035,045I was wondering this too. My skin does not harden and flake with the moisture method like it did before without but it does seem to prematurely come off easier too, especially in shower. And it is raw underneath. I try to avoid getting lips wet, back always to the stream but they always seem to get a little wet anyway. We feel your frustration, Daniel.
Mike, do you think this means skin is healing if it is looser?- Re: skin peeling MikePylon
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This is a reply to # 2,035,135yes, when i first got ec in the early phases the skin was building very superficially, and within a couple weeks of me rubbing it off deeper, thicker layers started becoming affected and would not come off as easily... now that my ec is improving the buildup is softer and comes off more easily again... i decided to experiment with fucidin when i started prevex and my lips are now building up much slower, practically nothing since it came off and that was days ago
I think the prevex and fucidin are both helping. l'm not suggesting i have an infection, but i think the everyday bacteria roaming the mouth contributes to the peeling process and inflammation.- Re: skin peeling jsl123
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This is a reply to # 2,035,149hey mike i thought you were doing this moist healing treatment? why are you useing fuicidin? may i ask you a few questions. becasue i use to use fuicidin for about 2 months and it was possibily the best time i have ever had with ec. i could literally live a 95% normal life. i believe the fuicidin holds back the build up or prevents it from developing. at the time i was only useing fuicidin 3 times a day. does your white line still develop with fuicidin mine stopped off memory. its almost like fucidin makes the skin dissolve or something. im maybe thinking of trying it again but this time do a combination of like fuicdin, an anti inflammatory and also just useing a good moisturizer. i know everybody is so positive about leaving the build up on for as long as possible but what happens if this is wrong? i personally think leaving the build up for as long as possible is bad but thats just me. obviously its bad if you rip it off daily. i think leaving it on premotes bacteria and stops the skin from breathing underneath. from what iv read the idea of moist wound healing is to keep it moist avoid a scab from forming and also keep the sloath off and keep it very clean with saline water and what not.
anyways is there anybody else that is trying any different treatments at the current moment apart from this moist healing? i would like to hear what other people are trying becasue at the moment it seems like everybody is just trying this moist healing? let us know
have a great day guys!- Re: skin peeling MikePylon
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This is a reply to # 2,035,159i'm doing moist healing as well but i got a fucidin perscription when i was diagnosed with a heavy growth of bacteria in my mouth... i decided to experiment with it when i started the prevex protocal... my doc didn't seem to think it would help much though.. i don't have an infection but i think the bacteria was contributing to peeling and inflammation... seems to be working... why did you go off the fucidin? did it stop working due to resistant bacteria?
white line on the the top lip is very minimal as is the rest of my buildup since the prevex/fucidin treatment... it's not stopped entirely but it's reduced by a massive degree.
my lips always looked pretty normal when dry since starting treatment, until maybe right before the buildup comes off after about 2 weeks... but within about 2 or 3 days after they've freshly peeled there used to be noticable white buildup across both of them when wet... now it's close to nothing.- Re: skin peeling jsl123
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This is a reply to # 2,035,164i stopped fuicidin because at the stage i was trying to find a cure. i still am now but back then i only had ec for about 4 months. once i stopped useing fuicidin it returned my ec so i put fuicidin on the fail list. but now im thinking of possibily doing a combo with it. maybe one of the ingredients prevents the skin from building up. i would defintaely reccomend if somebody just wants a break from ec to go on fucidin for a few weeks just make sure its fine with your doc i would also like to know if fucidin could be used long term. mike have you tried useing fucidin and just a good moisturizer??? anyways let us know how you go.
- Re: skin peeling MikePylon
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This is a reply to # 2,035,180Basically what's going on here is this... everyone has bacteria in their saliva, and that bacteria makes an easy target of your irritated lips and causes further inflammation and peeling... as i said, even if you don't necessarily have an infection... this is why the Antibiotics can help manage but do not cure the condition, because the condition is chronic and in your lips regardless... the problem is you should't use Antibiotics for long durations of time, esp if you don't have an infection because you can develop resistant strains of bacteria and the cream will stop working and if you do happen to get an infection, at that point, it can pose big problems...
right now, i'm applying a thin layer of fucidin 3 times a day underneath prevex hc (prescription) and regular prevex, which are barrier creams and act as moisturizers as well... i also add a layer of vaseline on top at night because the prevex tends to make the lips stick together... prevex is also effective in reducing buildup because it coats the lips very well... i'm also not manually peeling the skin, though a few nights ago, i did not apply the vaseline, my lips stuck together and the buildup ripped off... since this point, using this combination of topicals, my buildup has pretty much ceased... only been a few days though so i'll wait another week to see exactly where this protocal stands.
I do not plan on using the Antibiotic too long... i'm just experimenting with it right now while doing my moist healing treatment to lessen inflammation and hopefully help snap my lips out of this chronic cycle.
cureforcurezone was an active poster on this forum and he stopped his peeling for 6 monrhs with fucidin before it became resistant and stopped working for him.
- Re: skin peeling MikePylon
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- Re: skin peeling jsl123
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- Re: skin peeling MikePylon
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- Re: skin peeling Evrythngfine
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This is a reply to # 2,035,149Thanks for reply, my lips were doing a little better with moist healing but I had to go to dentist yesterday bc I broke a tooth, ( thank you granola bar), now today they are white and shredded. Still soft though. Back to drawing board. Think I'm going to try to get some Previx soon.
- Re: skin peeling ILB33
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- Re: skin peeling Evrythngfine
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This is a reply to # 2,035,279I think the injections may have helped a little. Yeah. She did five injections but only on the left side then kept the right half alone so we could compare. It didnt magically stop or reverse the peeling all togather, so I can see why people think it doesnt work but it seems the injected side might be healing a little. The peeling is thinner, the white line on inner lip seems thinner. If you pulled the lips down and looked at the inner mucosa it was red and warm to touch, definitely a sign of inflammation. That seems to have faded. Next week I go back for a biopsy. Maybe she will do more steroid on other side. I hope so because I think it slowed inflammation, I really do. I have also been trying to moisturize. I think I was making progress until my trip to the dentist Monday. Incidentally her theory is that this looks like an ulcer, similar to canker sore on the lip. Which is an autoimmune thing too.
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- Re: skin peeling MikePylon
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- Re: skin peeling Evrythngfine
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- Re: skin peeling MikePylon
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- Re: skin peeling Vunk
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- Re: skin peeling Healing2021
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- Re: skin peeling danielxmiller
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