Severe eye twitch/constipation same ... 
purplepixie
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Hoping others here with more experience can help me out.
I've never done a parasite cleanse ever before in my life. I'm not on any medications - and for the past 10 years have not been.
So i thought i would do a parasite cleanse as my digestion has been all over the place my whole life...coupled with dodgy liver function.
Now i've got exhausted adrenals, hypothyroid issues, hypoglycemia i'm figuring i need to start at first base i.e digestion and liver health to help improve the other conditions. I currently feel like the nutritional supplements are not being utilised optimally with my gut and liver the way it is.
So 5 days ago i start on parasite cleanse with the usual Hulda herbs type mix.
Day 2 i started to get a vague twitch in my left eye only.
Day 3 - eye twitch becoming more regular
Day 4 - eye twitch occuring every minute
Day 5 (today) - eye twitch more pronounced and occuring all the time!
I'm not sure if it's the eyelid or the eyeball - it's a massive jolt sensation. I asked my boyfriend if he could see it - as i was sure it muse be visible - but he can't.
This has not been one of my symptoms. It only started since taking the antiparasite herbs.
I've been using Mag.chloride baths and Mag. oil topical application for a few months now so i doubt the twitch is due to a Mag deficiency.
Also my digestion has become dire. Since day 1 of the cleanse i have had constipation and hard compacted stools - with very small BM's - just 1 a day.
Day 2 and 3 no BM's at all so yesterday day 4 i did an enema, plain water to clear, followed by a coffee enema. I felt nauseous doing the clear water clearing enema. Could barely sit upright to release due to the nausea. The coffee enema was easier but i didn't feel 'clear, more energy' like i have before. All stools looked narrow, light-coloured, some mucous, no obvious parasites - but it did sure stink!
Today , again no BM's (but i rarely do the day after an enema - kinda try not to enema again as i don't want to have dependence)
I've been taking probiotics(mercola 8), to help digestion, drinking lemon water, dandelion tea, plain water.
EVERYTHING i eat bloats me up and i get gas/pain/movement/liver pain/small intestine pain.
I'm assuming that the parasite herbs have caused a reaction - whether it's good or not i don't know at all - Im hoping there's some parasites in there going haywire (feels like it) with being given herbals they've never had before!
What types of parasites cause eye twitches or even live in the eyes?
How can i improve movement of my bowels through this? - it feels like everything has stopped working.
I'm tempted to take some Oxypowder to break up whatever perhaps is blocking me - embrace the foggy brain/migraines and lethargy oxypower gives me i'm willing just to get stuff moving.
I've got some Bentonite soaking that i'm planning to have with some psyllium tomorrow - altho' in the distant past this constipated me - the recent past with only a TINY amount it went through me okay.
I have senna on hand but not sure if i should go down the strong laxative route yet.
Any advice would be really useful.
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- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... dpk
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This is a reply to # 2,030,575I think I would take diatomaceous earth before the Bentonite clay. If you were using the clay as an absorbant for toxins would something like activated charcoal be better? It would stop the constipation side of it. The DE should help break down some of what is lodged in your intestine mechanically.
It sounds like things have died inside your intestine honestly and you may be feeling the effects of that thru absorption. Do you feel small balls inside your small intestine that circulate around your abdomen before going to your large intestine?
I guess the biggest problem is your sensations around your eye. I have that now in both eyes, to an extent, mostly at night and it scares me.
I am trying to look into getting a rife machine that I am hoping will improve that situation. I don't know what to say about it.
I don't know if a parasite specifically seeks out that area or it just happens. I have read case studies where a person had a fasciola parasite in their eye and another one who had ascaris.
If you were just completely freaked out about it make an appointment to get an eye exam. I assume they would be able to see something if there was anything unusual. If everything came back o.k. I would just assume that you have something close to your eye and not necessarily inside it. Maybe the person would have suggestions.
But, I would try to clear the debris that is causing the obsructions. I don't know how to do that but de sounds like it would help. Then maybe caster oil to expel the intestines or something. I found a post written about ammonia and am including it below.
Thanks.
Here is an excerpt about ammonia from RVK..
Ammonia is produced in the body in three ways that I know of. Normally, the main one is the burning of amino acids for fuel by the mitochondria. When this is done, the nitrogen has to be disposed of, and that is done by carrying it, mostly in glutamine, via the blood to the liver, where the urea cycle converts it into urea. The urea is put back into the blood and is extracted by the kidneys, which excrete it into the urine.
Ammonia can also be produced via the transsulfuration pathway, which is why Dr. Yasko recommends lowering the B6 intake if a person has an upregulated CBS enzyme.
The third way ammonia is produced is by anaerobic bacteria in the gut. If this gets too high, and the liver cannot deal with it, so that the ammonia level rises in the blood, it can cause trouble in the brain, called hepatic encephalopathy.
If the urine tends to be too much on the acid side, because of a person's diet or another cause, the kidneys can produce ammonia from glutamine and put it in the urine to balance the acid. This prevents frying one's nether parts! -)
If the bacteria in the gut are producing too much ammonia, they will need to be dealt with. The treatment for high ammonia in the blood coming from the gut includes giving oral levulose. Bacteria in the gut will convert this to lactic acid, pushing the pH in the gut in the acid direction. That will cause ammonia (NH3), which is a gas, to shift more to NH4+, ammonium ion, which will stay in solution and pass out in the stools rather than diffusing from the gut into the bloodstream.
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- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... purplepixie
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This is a reply to # 2,030,665Thanks for the suggestions and info dpk - sorry to hear both your eyes are affected. Did it start after parasite cleansing for you?
It HAS to be parasite linked as this coincided exactly with doing the herbs - which i've never done before and never had this kinda of manic twitch ever before.
The herbal forumula i'm using is the Parabuster brand and also an extra capsule from another brand - to bring the dose of Wormwood etc up to the recommended MG that Hulda cites.
In the parabuster blend is DE - most of the MG is DE in those caps. 750mg i think.
I would use charcoal but in this rural backwater i live in - no town for 30 miles, i only have clay or DE to hand. Maybe just take more DE?
I held off from doing Bentonite today - instead i did another enema. I'll write about that in a separate post.
The ammonia info is very interesting. My sweat - when it is randon sweating for no reason at all, like sitting relaxing reading - can be very 'ammonia-like' - quite astringent smelling. I always knew this was a symptom of an imbalance - aside from the sympathetic nervous system imbalance im experiencing causing random profuse sweating - the smell of the sweat is not 'my' smell. Joining the dots is my second profession! ;-)
- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... purplepixie
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- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... UserX
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This is a reply to # 2,030,575Hi, my eyes twitched alot too, there are probably round worms in your sinuses and eyes. People on cz have recommended eye bright eye wash. And eye drops (unsure of brand). They are very hard to get rid of. U can put small amts of collidal silver almost anywhere. Maybe the paradites are scattering out of your colon since they dont like the cleanse ingrediants. It harder to get rid if them once they scatter. U can experiment with sinus rinses and mixing dif. Things in with the rinse. There are lots of idea on this forum and the paradite drug support forum. Good luck. Please post any progress!
- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... purplepixie
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This is a reply to # 2,030,671Thanks for the suggestions - i have some CS to hand so could give that a go - always had sensitive eyes and rubbish at doing eye baths but i'll try to see what happens.
I don't like the idea of parasites scattering! You're scaring me lol
Funnily enough i seemed to have alot of phlegm stuck at the back of my throat/nasal passage today - it wouldn't clear...then eventually i managed to 'pull it' and spit it out - im afriad i didn't look and rinsed it away asap.
Since doing that the mucous feeling has subsided.-
day 6 enema - parasite results!? purplepixie
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This is a reply to # 2,030,901Well day 6 of this parasite cleanse and i had to do another enema today - although my small intestine is moving about like crazy - especially when i'm laid flat...i just knew that my large intestine was 'stuck' and there was absolutely no peristaltic sensations at all.
I did a clearing enema - didn't feel as nauseous as yesterday - cleared a lot of waste out - again, the width of my stools are very narrow - like a thumb. They float, are light coloured.
But TODAY - upon closer inspection of the contents i see these white things...like white sweetcorn. I obviously don't know how many altogether as i didn't use a sieve and was observing the top contents of the toilet bowl...but there were white things IN the stools aswell as some free floating.
I fished one out with a cotton stick...and prodded it...and it was a texture just like window putty. I prodded it to see if eggs were inside...but it was a whole solid shape. Kinda sticky upon prodding it.
I google image to do a search and found Tapeworm segments:
The picture above shows the exact shape of my white 'sweetcorn' bits. (dog tapeworm?! - Didn't think these could cross to humans?)
The bits also had like a little protrusion at the top corner - and opposite bottom corner.
(i originally thought they might be fat - but have not changed the fat food in my diet and never noticed these things before doing the parasite cleanse)
I flushed it all as i didn't want to fish for long due to the smell. I don't know if everyone else finds that with enema's but my poop really does pong when i do an enema!
I then followed with coffee enema - intending to hold it for 15 mins - but i barely managed 5 mins and HAD to release it. So upon the rather quick release of this enema i was shocked to observe some weird objects!
More white blobs - with some also looking like rice.
And some red rolls of something. I fished out the longest roll - and some smaller bits. It looked like a membrane or something - just like tomato skin - except much tougher, more like plastic, and the red turned out to be blood - which washed off leaving the orange tinged membrane.
WHAT on earth is this stuff?! I swear i don't have a plastic-eating fetish!
I did another google image search and this picture of another curezone member is EXACTLY what came out of me! (except i didnt see the brown fluke looking things):
I did take pics but not sure how to upload them within this message so ill try putting them on my profile.
Next time i think i should expel into a collander type sieve so i can really gauge exactly what is exiting me - i didn't probe too much and a lot of stuff came out. It does kinda make me gag somewhat!
Most importantly - im concerned that whatever is inside me is going to try to emigrate now they're in the danger zone of para-herbs - and as i'm more than likely a leaky gut candidate - what can i do to eliminate this occuring? Should i increase the worming dose? Take it more regularly? Anyone know of the maximum dosage for these herbs? - i'm willing to do whatever it takes to remove all of this even if it means feeling more ill.
Do parasites become tolerant to these herbs after a certain time - like candida with antifungals? Should i add something else to the mix?
Straight after doing this enema not only was my left eye twitching still - but my bottom lip started twitching!
I think i'm going to have to do daily enema's to try to get all this out quickly - due to my bowels just locking up. I don't like the thought of putrefying foods aswell as dying parasites.
Thanks, as always for any suggestions :-)
- Re: day 6 enema - parasite results!? dpk
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This is a reply to # 2,030,909Hi purplepixie.
The solid white skins could very well be a tapeworm. I treated my Tapeworm with doses of praziquantel. It did a good job for me and killed the tapeworm. It has very little side effects. So, I think you are o.k. there. The rolled up skins that you mention, a trapezoidal shape that is rolled up on itself would have to be a fasciola parasite of some type.
It's possible you could have contracted it thru raw fish, if you have tried that sort of thing. I have this infection and couldn't really tell I had it until they burrowed out of my liver. I didn't feel any strange sensations in my gallbladder until about 8 months after I got it.
Regardless, I wouldn't spend the money on going to a doctor getting this tested. I did numerous times and it was pointless. I would go ahead and try to get the triclabendazole and treat it with 10 mg/kg and do the dose atleast 3 times. If it were me I would space them out every 12 hours. But, I would do atleast three, maybe even more. I got the egaten/triclabendazole from Dr. Chieu. I think you are doing o.k. Praziquantel and triclabendazole in my opinion are the ones that have the least side effects. The flukes can become resistant to the egaten and therein lies the problem. They developed a resistance to the egaten with me and I have kind of been drifting in terms of how to treat them.
David- Re: day 6 enema - parasite results!? tahoma94
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This is a reply to # 2,030,929Purplepixie:
Are you using herbs in capsules or drops? Did you get them from clark? Are you using all three, Wormwood , clove and Black-Walnut ?- Re: day 6 enema - parasite results!? purplepixie
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This is a reply to # 2,031,019Hi Tahoma,
I'm using Paratrex (parabuster) - has all 3 herbs you list - with bulking of D.E.
I'm going to run out of them in a week and am wondering, should i continue with this formula - or change to another brand?
IF parasites can develop 'resistance' to formula's i'm wondering if it's wise to change tactics - and shock them with a different brand/herbal mix!? Or will that approach have them migrating quickly?
As this formula is working so far i would be inclined to stick with it for this first cleanse - but as i'm a newbie regarding parasites and reactions they have to herbs - i don't want to be throwing herbs into me for 6 weeks that they've developed a resistance to.
- Re: day 6 enema - parasite results!? purplepixie
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- Re: day 6 enema - parasite results!? purplepixie
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This is a reply to # 2,030,929Thanks David for your suggestions.
I'll look into sourcing those parasiticals you mention - can i obtain them online or would i need a prescription?
Would it be wise to take them while still on the herbal cleanse or wait until it's finished?
I've a sensitive constitution and rarely have ever done well on pharma-meds - but would consider it to blast parasites from my body!
I've very rarely eaten raw fish - salmon maybe no more than 3 times in my WHOLE LIFE! The last piece of meat that passed my lips was over a decade ago. Despite that i'm a huge animal-lover, a country girl occassionally picking wild foods, i til soil with my bare hands as i garden my veggie patch...there are so many ways i could have become infected.
I think H2O2 (Hydrogen-Peroxid) is going to become my best friend from now on :-)
The sensations you talk of in your gallbladder i think i feel, it's either that or the liver...but i often can get a cramping feeling there, or a shooting pain, dull aches.
So you've confirmed that flukes can become resistant..:-(.. Is it the case then that it is wise not to use the same parasite cleanse and to rotate their use like antifungal protocols?
Thanks so much for your suggestions :-)
- Re: day 6 enema - parasite results!? tahoma94
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- Re: day 6 enema - parasite results!? dpk
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- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... UserX
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This is a reply to # 2,030,901Hi, yes, I have done the same with the icky goo. Its worm larve, goo, ect.. and yes, very scary. Hope u feel better. Lots of herbs/meds to try. Make it part of your daily routine to nasal flush so they dont repopulate!
- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... purplepixie
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This is a reply to # 2,031,042Hey seemekc - thanks for the suggestion - i'm definately going to be having one HUGE eye on parasites now for the rest of my damn life!! lol
Do you have a herbal formula you use to nasal flush daily? I'd like to make my own but don't want to use anything too abrasive for mucous membranes over long term use.
I am shocked, scared and amazed at where parasites go in the human body - how they affect our functioning and moods...it's incredible.
Now i know i have them in me - for sure - it's impossible to be in denial once you see weird stuff coming out of you! I have always been in the boat of 'i don't do sushi, im fine...' LOL!! I think i've been harbouring snakes since childhood! All that good nutrition being stolen from me!
Most of my friends and family hate me going on about detoxing - talking about poop at the table...lol...but now i've witnessed parasites i think they'll disown me hahaaa ;-)
- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... purplepixie
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- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... purplepixie
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- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... dave505
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This is a reply to # 2,030,575Hi pixie,
I was in similar situation with the pooh and the eys not the same but...
my pooh looked like that when my liver was congested either by supplements (too strong) either by toxins (bacteria or parasite). if you have too much ammonia that put pressure on your liver. and the whole shabang " exhausted adrenals, hypothyroid issues, hypoglycemia "
i've had a right eye sensaation more light or strong allthe time but as soon as i start deworming the twich, itch and even pain are more present to the eye.
sometimes to the both.
I all the time had pain in the liver/gallblader but after started the deworming it got worst.
Maybe this could be a clue for you - the second day i started deworming one of them or more got into the liver just bellow ribs. in the same time i felt a sharp pain in the right eye. my guess was the blood vessels liver eye are connected or there is meridian link.
each time they move/enter the liver my up back side of the eye is painfull.
I dont want to get you more in trouble cause i'm not an expert but the one in the picture left side down look like flukes? just saw some pictures...
If you have bacteria overgrowth psyllium and Bentonite and aloe vera might not be good. but worth to try and see.
dave
- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... purplepixie
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This is a reply to # 2,031,054Thanks so much Dave - you've given me a lot to think about - the ammonia link with liver , thyroid, adrenals, blood Sugar out of whack etc.
Bowels today were very sandy light colour - just like the colour of pine wood. Thin in size too.
I agree the liver is taking a hit with this cleanse....the 'liver lines' on my face skin inbetween my eyes have become deeper again - just as they were getting fainter with Liver Cleansing herbs...i had to go and start a parasite cleanse.
Also my skin texture has got worse since this cleanse.
I think you might be onto something about the meridian link between liver and eyes.
This morning as soon as i woke my left eye was REALLY twitching - it was insane! My boyfriend could FINALLY see it. It felt like my eyeball was wobbling in the socket.
I was also thinking if there was a nerve in the intestines or liver which connects to the eyes causing a twitch when these areas are aggravated.
Later on during today the twitch has actually calmed down abit - happening every 10 mins or so instead of all the time.
Will the parasite herbs reach parasites in other areas like the liver etc?
Is this the point where i'll be getting into daily zapping? :-)
Thanks for your suggestions.
- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... dave505
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This is a reply to # 2,031,138
Hi pixie,
I'm sorry i have no answer for you regarding zapping. I want to start zapping to but dont know where to start :).
dont know even what zappper to try. my logic says yes to the zapping the liver if you feel parasites in the liver ( like I do). but if you dont feel them there and I would say dont.herbs reach the liver? my experience with what i've been taking is NO they dont. thats why they are hidding in the gallbladder and liver cause the herbs wont hurt them. when i started the cleanse with herbs and reducing carbs - the pain in the gallblader and liver starts. and when i eat i feel like my gallbladder is finally free - after 1 hour pains begins again. if i'm eating carbs or even sugar - i feel my liver and GB very free.
i've been taking wormwood, black walnut, goldenseal. maybe other herbs reach the liver and work sistemicly. I'm trying to think - 'ive read somebody took a tincture by putting it undertongue- shortway to the liver. or other person had an enema with some - and trhough some blood vessels from there reach quicly the liver. here some recommends to drink tea and stay on the right side.
What i can tell you is colonics was a big deal for me 1 year ago regarding the liver. Colonics and probiotics togheter with a lot of vit.C for detox.
Sorry i wanted to help more :) but keep posting - other people might help.
dave
- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... purplepixie
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This is a reply to # 2,031,163Thanks Dave - i agree that the colonics, probiotics and vit C are a tremedous help.
I was having a reaction to taking 4g of Vit C a day - with very poor functioning adrenals i suspected that to be the cause - however i also read on another 'natural parasite' protocol of taking 8g and 10g of Vit C for parasites - parasites HATE vit C and salt - so maybe that's why i got so lethargic, foggy head, migraines, bad digestion on the vit C.
I'm going to try to UP the dose while on this cleanse :-)
I just hope the parasites aren't all running to my liver and GB to hide from the intestinal herbs.
I have been noticing more belly pain after every meal - and the twitching starts up non-stop JUST after eating too.
I've had more energy today and also more mental clarity, feeling also calmer (despite knowing there's worms in me!) after last nights enema so i'm happy that finally something i'm doing to help my health is actually working!
Thanks for the support :-)
If i find a good site on zapper info i'll post it up.- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... dpk
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This is a reply to # 2,031,179I really don't know too much about the vit c or the salt protocol, honestly. With the herbs I just tried to take them to tolerance. I know that is very hard to find where that particular spot is. It is a different range for people. I take the herbs of the Hulda Clark protocol but just in higher doses. I think they have built up a resistance to them, but that has been the norm over the last few weeks with just about everything I've tried.
Honestly I think you are in a pretty good spot right now. I think the priority would be to get rid of the flukes. I don't know if you should try to take something for the Tapeworm first to help clear a path for the flukes or just go ahead and treat the flukes.
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I just would feel alot better if your digestion was clearer so there wouldn't be any blockages. Once you take the egaten you want to get the flukes out of there. I think the skins that you see are the tegument. Which is the outer layer of the fluke. But, the flukes change their receptor sites on their skin which disables the egaten from being effective. So, the first time is when you want to go at them the hardest and it will be the most effective.
The egaten is extremely hard to get here in the u.s. The pharmacies don't carry it. Doctors have to contact the cdc directly, present the evidence that you have the infection then at that point be at the mercy of the cdc to pescribe it. I have never run an ELISA test for fasciola but I think that would come up positive. Nevertheless doctors don't believe that americans can contract parasites. Even when traveling to southeast asia as in my instance. But, you won't have to worry about any of that. You will have the medicine that you need and will be able to treat it properly.
I guess it could be up for discussion in terms of which medicine to take first barring your digestive issues if that is the route you want to go. I would just feel alot better if your digestion was clear and the flukes had a way to be emitted quickly. I hope this helps.
David
- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... dpk
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- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... purplepixie
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- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... dave505
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- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... purplepixie
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- Re: Severe eye twitch/constipation s... dpk
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