Water Fasting for 13 days 
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Hi,
I have done a 5 day Water Fast before and ready for 13 days on a water fast. This Water Fast will include some herbal tea (non-caffeinated) and preferably distilled water when available. I found a lot of informative information (redundant eh?) on this forum and find this forum very helpful. I am not too sure about the urine fast thing because it sounds quite strange, then again so does regular fasting (juice or water) sound strange to a lot of people. Encouragement is quite appreciated.
Happy Fasting,
Keegan
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This is a reply to # 1,946,730Good luck!
Opinions on urine fasting differ. It could be beneficial, I tend to believe, but I would rather not try it for now. Urine drink in the morning, while fasting, had helped bowel elimination in number of cases described by the Russian author Malahov. My main concern is that we would be putting back in the body substances it decided to eliminate previously,. On the other hand, as mentioned, it is known to the body liquid with high concentration of salts, urea, creatinine, etc, that will take in water from the intestine and speed up the total out, together with some old un-cleansed masses.
I believe you would put more challenge on your system having the herbal teas - are you going to have honey with them? - that would be soft fasting, not water fast, which is also good. In that case, if it had been me, I would have 7 teas with 4 of them having a tsp of raw organic honey in them, alternated and spaced at every 2 hrs.
(... and I would be tremendously hungry all the time. I did that, but tree of the intakes were not teas, they were around 300-400 g mono-fruit meals. I got lots of benefits. With such restricted diet you can function, most of the times better than water fast, but would get less health benefits, and would be able to go around 21 days, extreme maximum - 30 days. Beyond that fruit-honey-herbs would get you euphoric, light headed and feeling "strange".).
If you use only the herbs in water, you may irritate your GIT, lots of herbs stimulate the appetite and your digestion would never really stop. I suggest distilled water only and a home water distiller. I invested 200 $ in a water distiller 7 years ago. It is still working with minimal maintenance, had provided my health and as a side effect, saved money on buying spring water/filters etc.
http://waterdistiller.com/distiller-water/
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- Re: Water Fasting for 13 days chirontherainbowbridge
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This is a reply to # 1,947,433Hi Lilli, I read somewhere recently, that the pancreas can only deal with two teaspoons of honey a day, before being stressed by this--(once considers coke drinkers!!...) leading to pre-insulin resistance; the sense being, it is a far more concentrated Sugar than that found in tree fruits, say. What are your thoughts on this? I've been loving raw honey the last few years. 4 tsp. a day sounds like a lot, though! This most recent Water Fast I undertook, which I only was able to do for 7 days, just timing-wise, I "soft-fasted" days one-3 with two cups of herb tea with honey--which seemed absolutely wonderful.
Red clover, and weak organic green. mmm. But, I found the switch-over to plain water quite a challenge. I was tremendously 'hungry' for the whole seven days. Interesting.
It was my least favourite water fast. Harder than the 29 days...not altogether sure why. One idea though:
I lost a little belly fat on this one--and that had been the last to go--and with it, I felt blech: as if there were some pretty rough toxins/chemicals stored there--makes a lot of sense to me.
I would not want to do it again. That said, I did not break on a downswing--though it took great powers of mind to *push* breaking. I totally relished a homemade blueberry- banana birthday 'ice cream'.
Chiron
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This is a reply to # 1,949,789Hi Chiron,
Interesting question about honey sugars, I appreciate it ... I do not find the sweetness of a tsp in a cup of honey greater than that of a ripe fruit. Overall, it should contain even less calories from sugars than a ripe sweet fruit. Bonus: good raw honey has lots of enzymes, which help eliminate build ups, if consumed alone or in herbal tea or water.
The 4 teas plus mono-fruit is producing amazing results in reversing obesity and second type diabetes, among many other diseases under the Bulgarian-type fast. Practice shows that the pancreas is not challenged. On the contrary - the high insulin levels and blood glucose are steadily dropping, because the low calorie diet/fast, even more the low/zero fat have the effect of sensitizing back the cells to insulin, such that less insulin is required and more glucose enters the cells. Fructose, which honey is very high in, does not require insulin, so pancreas-wise the fructose contenent is out of concern. My reference is again emilova.org. There are on-going studies, showing over and over again the insulin insensitivity comes from high quantity/poor quality fats, which "crowd" the insulin receptors.
I would believe that the two tsp honey a day, being too much refers to a "rich" diet where the honey-tea doesn't come as a meal, rather as a surplus ...; even more so if the meal/the day have been high on fats and honey came mixed with other food. Do you have the info-/ web-page about the honey/pancreas concern, I'd love to have a look at it, if possible.
Anyway, full rest of pancreas clearly is achieved through water fasting. For people who have trouble water fasting, honey-fruit is a good alternative. Personally I have never had complaints from challenged pancreas through my 3 long soft fasts (14-16 days), and through subsequent short ones.
It is true that the body gets used to having some fuel every two hours or so, after which switching to 0 calories could be a challenge. I am thinking to do the opposite, when time comes - starting water only and breaking with soft fast, then adding greens and veggies when I re-feed.
Best,
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- Re: Water Fasting for 13 days chirontherainbowbridge
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This is a reply to # 1,950,164"I do not find the sweetness of a tsp in a cup of honey greater than that of a ripe fruit."
no, me neither. On the contrary--but I do find it *feels like a meal*, in a good way. It is something to do with the concentration factor of it. Or something more technical I have forgotten... Sorry, I can't even recall where I saw it to track it down, so I shouldn't bring it up--I admit it sounds sketchy too, and yet, it struck me as making some sense, in the context of the whole article.
I didn't get the impression it was referring to honey in tea within the typical SAD, but more in a plant-based raw-ish vegan lifestyle. Well, hmm. I do find that more than two tsp. a day feels like too much at some level--but I eat fruit anyway. In terms of the enzymes and whatnot (:-)
it would be important not to add the honey until the tea cooled a bit...much value could be lost.
Ah--I did not see the mention of mono-fruit WITH the teas.
That's a whole other thing than tea and honey fasting; I consider it more a mono-fruit fast, with tea, and I have no doubt it produces great results. I'm kind of inclining that way anyway, as it gets hotter.
Maybe the 2 tsp. a day max suggested honey with tea was speaking to people over forty. It's kind of vaguely coming back to me. Yes, I think it was speaking to that segment, and I'm 55. Insulin resistance seems to crop up for many at middle age and onward. My mother has it, and I don't intend to go that path.
Maybe it'll come to me, tomorrow--The source. Apologies again. It's late now. Thanks for the discussion!
Always a pleasure.
C
PS--I should have put quotes around sugar. (re: honey) I just don't have the head to retain all the proper names and distinctions, though I am aware of them, (most often intuitively) if that makes any sense. I admire you evident skill with intricate information.
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This is a reply to # 1,950,258Chiron,
Very valid reasoning about waiting for the tea to cool down before adding honey. As per that soft-fast regimen, it is best to wait until tea goes to body-temperature, then add the honey. Lately I am not even heating the water for certain "teas" - just soaking the powdered herb over few hours, mostly stems, flowers and leaves. If pouring boiling water on herbs, during fast, recommended soaking is 5-10 min, then strain.
The soft-fast I was referring to doesn't have the honey as being mandatory. The description is "add a tsp of honey, if desired". I concur that some people would tolerate less sugars overall, and, as with everything, honey use would be also subject to common sense and individual specifics.
My pleasure,
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This is a reply to # 1,950,463Lili, what a fun conversation; good thoughts. It's funny how we usually think of tea as hot. It occurs to me that more and more words need quotes around them. :-) But what you are talking about is more of an infusion, and wonderful! I oftrn infuse nettles all night, and this makes not really a tea but a meal. (>I do have a little character sitting on my shoulder here, that's saying, "pssst--Some of the good stuff in plants comes out with a little heat!": so maybe an idea is to do mostly the cool steeping, and then add a small amount that is hot-brewed, and mix these. Of course, i'm speaking about experiementing with less and less, as I am wont to do, in summer. I seem to do better with less of everything, but I'm warming to more and more herbal drinks. (and I love kombucha: just finished some with yerba mate.) Not this cool steeping gets into "sun tea", which is one lovely way to "brew" hibiscus--a suoer summer drink/food. It was my mother, many years ago that introduced me to hibiscus sun tea. What an elixir. But in summer also, and it's getting very hot up here, kombucha with some pressed blueberry juice and ginger is divine.
take care.
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This is a reply to # 1,950,480Chiron, I love that little talk as well. I have never tried hibiscus yet, and I will definitely learn how to make that drink/meal.
Agreed on steeping, straining and then pouring hot water on the herb. We both had come to the same idea - maybe it is the same little character who spoke to us :)) I discovered that for certain power herbs, 2-3 times steeping still produce flavored drink, fading of course, but I love to get the most from the herbs. Furthermore, distilled water seems to keep the bacteria away more effectively during the process ...
Take care,
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This is a reply to # 1,946,730Keegan,
Keep us posted, 13 days is great after a previous of 5 days. Let us know how you cope each day.
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