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Hello Curezone,
I'm a 20 year old male from Amsterdam and currently I'm taking the following:
-Iodoral (half a tablet 6,25 mg) daily
-Boron 3mg every other day
-Multi complex every other day (which includes selenomethionine)
-some brazil nuts from time to time
-some extra magnesium from time to time
My water isn't chlorinated nor fluoridated. As a matter of fact, Amsterdam's city water competes for the best in the world. I don't eat very much bromide either. ( not many processed foods and I eat organic barley or spelt sourdoughbread)
I don't really get any side effects, perhaps because I include a fair amount of Sea Salt in my daily diet aswell.
Having said that.. I've been reading the research done by Guy Abraham and noticed these were only clinical trials(not experimental) with a small n, lots of anecdotal crap about symptoms. (Not that anecdotal evidence is completely useless)
Some of you, I've read, take doses like 100 mg++ or go even further by saying that 50mg or something like that is the MINIMUM to take.
Can you guys provide some links to potential evidence for these statements? I do truly believe that Iodine and many other nutrients are needed by virtually anyone today since the soils are so depleted.
As far as I know there's no research confirming that inorganic Iodine isn't toxic/cytotoxic/disruptive/inbalancing in these high doses.
Besides, the mainland Iodine(inorganic)intake average from mainland Japan is about 13,6 mg (correct me if im wrong), however there's also bromide in those seaweeds isn't there?
That would mean the Iodine actually utilized would be lower than 13,6 mg.
A theory as for why alot of iodine would make you feel better could be that certain receptors that accept halogens can COMPETITIVELY be agonated by for instance iodide/fluoride/bromide. The one with the lowest affinity (iodide) is needed in larger amounts to displace the ones with higher affinities.
But then why the heck is the increased excretion of toxic halides seen after about a month of supplementation?
It could be another pathway that increases the excretion the toxic halides..
The main point I'm trying to make is that there is alot of guessing since no one would bother to do research for an unpatentable nutrient.
Why do you guys take such high doses??
(btw I haven't read all the 250 pages you have on iodine.. lol)
I wish you all a healthy 2012++
peace
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>>-Boron 3mg every other day
If it does not include Boron in asparatate form you must use Boric Acid or Borax as well.
>>-Multi complex every other day (which includes >>selenomethionine)
Doesn't sound enough..
>>-some brazil nuts from time to time
OK but better if you have some cancers then as a Se supplement. There are +21 steps of Se methylation and most of what is in Brazil nuts is above SeM.
>>Why do you guys take such high doses??
Because we are forced to endure a flood of the bad halogens from nearly every aspect of daily life.
Bromine is/was in bread, still is in cough syrup, in all our cothes and furniture..but all this info is available..
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This is a reply to # 1,895,628Yes Guko this also interests me.
Recently I found an excellent nutritionist doctor.
In discussing my regimes my high intake of Iodine came up. ~200 mg daily + supplements. (I have been doing this for some time inspired in part by this web site.)
The doctors comment was there is no need to continue that because after about three to six months you should be Iodine sufficent. And high Iodine causes thyroid cancer.
Taking the later point I can find no evidence to back that view. Does anyone know if high iodine causes thyroid cancer?
On the second issue namely why the high dose? I agree with trapper's comment a while ago that people appear to settle at somewhere between 100 and 300 mg daily. I am still debating the issue with my doctor.
I continued the "high" dose happily.
Taking your post:
""Besides, the mainland Iodine(inorganic)intake average from mainland Japan is about 13,6 mg (correct me if im wrong), however there's also bromide in those seaweeds isn't there?
That would mean the iodine actually utilized would be lower than 13,6 mg.""
Not necessarily. The usage/storage system is not known well enough to conclude that.
""The one with the lowest affinity (iodide) is needed in larger amounts to displace the ones with higher affinities.
But then why the heck is the increased excretion of toxic halides seen after about a month of supplementation?""
Again the same explanation and the answer to that point you have provided: ""The main point I'm trying to make is that there is alot of guessing since no one would bother to do research for an unpatentable nutrient.""
Trying to "second guess" this sort of thing is probably less wise than carefully examining people's experience.
T2
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T2..
It is amazing what ignorant doctors will say about Iodine use, thyroid tests, desiccated thyroid and adrenal insufficiency aka adrenal fatigue. But let me reassure you that excess Iodine DOES NOT cause cancer. Being DEFICIENT in Iodine can cause cancer of the thyroid, breast, reproductive organs .... probably many others since iodine receptors are found in every part of the body. If you cannot enlighten this doctor, either neglect to inform him about your iodine intake or better yet, take the iodine urine loading test that Hakala labs offers, to see if you really are sufficient or not.
http://www.hakalalabs.com/
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This is a reply to # 1,895,594Read David Brownstein's book.
He was very careful at first and dosed small and wasn't seeing much good results.
once he got people in the 12-50mg range/day then he started seeing good results.
There is a doc who works with tons of people. And you would have to think that if he is willing to write it in a book, he feels pretty damn safe with those numbers.
Jorge Flechas told me on a phone consult that he usually gives 50mg to most people, 100mg if they have had cancer, and 200mg if the cancer is active.
These are two docs that have been working Iodine for some time now. So tons of patient experience.
And maybe you don't have the exposure we have here???
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100mg is the minimum for everyone but children. and in many cases, more is better.
i am currently counseling a person with basal cell carcinoma and i have them on 100mg of Lugols spaced throughout the day and a half a gram of SSKI to support the thyroid and get the skin cells sufficient in iodine.
as for more anecdotes, there are many such stories here from folks who low dosed it at first and were miserable and when i told them to go to 100mg it changed everything. this also comes from the Iodine project where they said that uptake of Iodine was sometimes inhibited and the fix was to take vitamin C or to double the dose from 50mg to 100mg. after doing some other figuring on the exposure to bad halogens like newport was talking about, i concluded that 100mg was the minimum daily dose. i take 300mg of Iodine a day.- Re: High dosage of Iodine, valid jus... RobertAm
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This is a reply to # 1,895,678When you increased from 50 to 100mg of iodine, how did you increase the companion nutrients?
- Thanks to all for excellent replies.... trimnut2 12 y 3,328
- Re: High dosage of Iodine, valid jus... Guko
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This is a reply to # 1,895,764The difference here is that I'm not feeling sick and my toxic load isn't so high. I don't have dental fillings.. don't eat many processed foods.. drink a good quality water.. dont cook in toxic pans.. etc. etc.
6.25 mg of Iodoral has made my hair look better, my sweat doesn't smell like anything anymore and I don't really get any dental plaque; even if I don't brush my teeth for 2 days..
I feel like the Iodine I take is absorbed verry effectively. I'm especially interested in the function of Iodine beyond thyroid hormone synthesis.
The oxidative damage ain't really high.. it concentrates in many glands in your body, white blood cells concenrate it.. imagine what that could do for immune system
I just don't wanna go overboard with supplements, hé i haven't stopped eating altogehter or something!.
there is 67 mcg selenium in my multi which I take every other day. some other minerals like copper/zinc/chromium etc. etc.
I eat a couple of oranges daily and the multi contains l-ascorbid acid and bioflavonoids.. I haven't seen anyone spoke of that before btw! Research suggests that the bioflavonoids have a synergistic effect on vitamin C. This may also be true for several other phytonutrient compounds in for instance: lemons, oranges
does anyone think there's any reason for me to take very high doses of iodine?
Didn't Guy Abraham estimated the need for the entire body 12.5 mg daily? Maybe ill go for 12,5 mg a day but feel that 50 mg for me is just wasting my precious student money lol!- Re: High dosage of Iodine, valid jus... Guko
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also, i've read somewhere that there's an estimated 5% being excreted in other ways then by urine; mostly through sweat, and some through your feces
did you come to any conclusions about whether this Iodine through the feces harms the beneficial flora in your gut? espcially if you take like 300 mg! it's guessing probably and experiencing..
the myentric plexus et al. in your gut works by itself and is kinda isolated from the rest of the peripheral nervous system.. if you screw up your gut you don't directly notice
is there any reason to be worried about your second brain aka second genome?- Re: High dosage of Iodine, valid jus... trapper/kcmo
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This is a reply to # 1,895,792a gram a day or below will not interfere with gut flora and fauna in any deleterious way. might help, though.
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This is a reply to # 1,895,764i did not. i was taking 800mcg of selenium on the mistaken notion that dr olree was doing the same. well, i finally got to the point that i was overloaded(due to taking the kind from yeast more than taking that high dose) and i had to take a break. now i take 200mcg a day and do really well. i now suggest for people to take 400mcg of selenomethionine only for the first year and then go to 200mcg. in the case of this cancer case, they were already taking 800mcg of selenomethionine ONLY and i told them to keep that up until a resolution of the cancer is achieved. running out of selenium is a major cause of cancer.
i had already done a ton of cleansing and diet changing and multitudes of supplements, so when i started Iodine i didnt have any problem at all. i played with the b vitamins and took a little vitamin C but no difference to me. i just wanted to be doing what others were. the salt pushing was the only thing i kept up due to more and more bromine coming out.
as i recall, the change from 50mg to 100mg of Lugols was nothing short of amazing. its that much better.
if there were one overwhelming point to this forum it would be that Iodine is NOT a poison. to the contrary, it is an essential and widely deficient nutrient, the lack of which has far reaching health consequences, up to and including death from some of the illnesses its absence permits. the medical industry is scared to death of it and they want you to be as well. i went to the extreme to prove its safety - taking 3,750mg of pure Iodine in the form of 5 grams of potassium Iodide in one day. all at once, in fact. no one, not a single soul, has ever challenged me on this fact. they know better. so anything under a gram is like discussing whether one should eat one tic-tac or ten in one day. in fact, the tic-tacs are more dangerous.- RRRR from me trapper. Excellent n/m ... trimnut2 12 y 3,158
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Thx...
I'm contemplating switching to a full B complex instead of ATP Cofactors, given B6 is also used in thyroid hormone production. And generally B's all need to go together to prevent relative depletions. It's one aspect of the Breast Cancer Choices Iodine protocol I'm debating whether it can be improved...
You mentioned you tweaked your B-vitamin intake. How much B2/B3 do you use at the 100mg level? ATP Co-factors says use 1 - 3 tablets which is a wide variance (500 - 1500mg of Niacin).
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