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angrymorg
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Here's the extent of the EPA Investigation:
Lance, who began this investigation was a bit Anl?!*! retentive about the week long bombardment of phone calls and handed the investigation over to a newly graduated toxocologist who knew nothing about Morgellons or chem trails. After getting a bit Anl?!*! retentive myself about the blow me off bull pucky... I guess it was a bit much for the new comer and he lied and said he passed it onto the Air Enforcement Department to Paul Carr. Phone never rang. As of a few days ago, I ended up being routed through the Environmental & Health Department to some woman who even though I had only mentioned getting sick from the chem trailing seemed to know I had Morgellons...hmmmm? But of course, they've never heard of such. I then was told they wanted to do a intercom meeting with me so I was called back by....Paul Carr...what a coincedence! Mr. Carr tells me this is the first call about this subject he'd ever received so I made sure to give him Lance's phone number to discuss the bombardment of phone calls that made him not do his job!
Mr. Carr has told me he wants to hear from people sick with Morgellons who feel Chem Trailing has caused their illness so guys, if your up for a bull of time...please leave Mr. Carr your input at: 303-692-2000 choose #1 on the Main Menu and then #2 for Environmental Issues and ask the administrator for Paul Carr. Lets see if Mr. Carr can keep his word since so far it's looking like our so-called protection agencies don't seem to be able to do anything but transfer people around in circles all day long.
Those of you really daring, please leave your regards to Mr. Lance Elridge for doing such a stand up job on his so-called investigation: 303-312-6459 and if he's not in there's always Mike 303-312-6458.
By the way, not one of these people were willing to take my chem trailing snow samples to a lab, not one would initiate an air test on the plumes, not one has probably even bothered to look into the companies and/or military conducting the aerosol spraying.
I'm too tired of excuses and denial to let these people off the hook with something this destructive to our entire environment and it is beyond evil. Keep calling, keep letting them know they can not continue to excuse themselves or what's being done. Keep contacting all your local, state and federal agencies. You want help in your area, leave their numbers posted so we, who want this stopped, can support you!
- Re: EPA Criminal Investigation Updat... Tizona
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,771,663not to be skeptical or anything, but have you considered that these people are not taking you seriously and are in fact running you around like a chicken with its head cut off?
they sent you to this person they send you to that person who sends you to another person and in the meantime nothing ever actually gets done
All those phone calls previously... what Good did they do? Now you want us to make a bunch of more phone calls? And what good will they do?
I appreciate that you think contrails are causing MORGELLONS. personally I don't think so. However, harassing EPA officials in the manner you are doing I don't think is going to get you anywhere.
That's my input on the subject
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,771,830For a while now I've followed the chemtrail versus contrail ideology with interest. Actually, with amused interest. From the plausibility standpoint alone, assuming that the USAF really is delivering a potentially harmful agent from, say, thirty or forty thousand feet, it isn’t a very efficient method. The dilution factor from that height WOULD BE ENORMOUS. Maybe they're utilizing a homeopathic principal? Crop dusters would do a much better job!
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This is a reply to # 1,771,943What you are saying is probably true - However, I believe what they (I understand the Navy is actually in charge of this program but who really knows-)are doing is (literally) killing two birds with one stone. They are seeding the upper atmosphere with nano electronics to form a worldwide intelligence shield - ANYTHING that uses a satellite will have to pass through this field - and also they are using this "shield" in conjunction with HAARP for weather manipulation. AS AN ADDED BONUS, what goes up mut come down - so they are adding some nefarious bits to the mix ("morgellons"). This way they can accomplish their insane agenda of total control of communications, weather, and depopulation. 'Sounds plausible....
When I first realized that I had "morgellons", I performed a simple experiment. I watched the chemliners spray day after day until finally after about a week it rained. So I cleaned and put out two stainless steel bowls on top of my storage shed. What I collected in those bowls matched PERFECTLY what I had been pulling out of my skin. There is NO question in my mind that chemtrails are one source for morgellons.. And i &$%# HATE calling a bio-weapon a name like "morgellons" - can't we find a suitable nefarious name - maybe an achronym... Let's have a contest, there are some very bright minds on this site-
regards
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- Re: EPA Criminal Investigation Updat... patientadvocate
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This is a reply to # 1,780,396I too thought chemtrails were related to Morgellons and I now retract that statement,...aluminum is one of the few substances that appear to kill this Nematode and the Dr. Researching it recommends Ban Roll On,...why? Aluminum.
So if they are trying to control bio engineering gone wrong, this would be added benifit. Controlling a massive mistake. The aluminum compound,...dioxide is rather stable than other aluminum compounds, (thank god,) and controlling a huge mistake makes more sense than genacide.
In light of what is happening in our solar system, the approaching of Brown Dwarf, we wont need poison and extermination when our food supply disappears and fresh water disappears, when gamma radiation affects us all,....they just have to sit back and watch us die from natural phenomenon.
There have been four class x solar flares in just 30 days. We were lucky to see one every two or three years. The sun is gearing up, we have been warned with veiled lies, FDA banning home grown organic produce.
The money grab is happening, the clash between good and evil is being played out as we speak all over the world.
thanks
bret
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This is a reply to # 1,782,807Bret:
I appreciate the views, but I have increasing levels of aluminum, barium, etc. which are all used in chem trails. Nemotodes are not the entire makeup of this disease. Also as of recent I found out well water is showing over the normal ranges of sodium chloride....also used in chem trails. Chem trails are known for changing acidic levels very alkaline. Four years ago our air was very acidic (I am in the cosmetic industry and I know this because I would leave ph strips out and they would change to yellow), since the planes began in my area these ph strips are now green. Farmers in my area have also noticed a change in soil ph levels. For me, there is no argument on this, I know that my symptoms are right in line with what is happening in my area. I researched heavily for two years. I do feel this is a serious issue and due to military pilots devouching information as well, I think the public would be shocked at what is going on in this country. I do not believe in population control or that this was done on intent, but I think they decided to try something for whatever the reason without the total picture of what it would do over time. However, I do know biologists who were not in favor of these experiments and knew that the consequences would detroy the environment more than anything else. From what I have been told this is purely greed and money that is fueling a worldwide effort. Some of the investors are from China, Bill Gates, Soros, along with several investment firms also invested in top bio Science companies.
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This is a reply to # 1,771,830Tizona:
Well aware that they are sending me in circles, I didn't expect much else. If you think I don't get valuable information out of them in turn, you'd be very mistaken. I don't believe in being silent, not with these types of people. This is what they want, they want you to give up, they want you not to call cause then they don't have to answer to what they know they are doing. It take a lot of calls, a lot of time, and if you don't want to take part...you don't have to. CDC is not going to help any of us, the medical professionals don't even report cases of Morgellons to the Health Department nor do most of them know about the disease or want to acknowledge it. Tell me, if we all sit back and do nothing, how do you propose any of us will ever get help? You think natural remedies are going to cure you? I know where that leads, I'm six years into trying all the bogus remedies people post and guess what? As the chem trailing continues to get worse over my head so do I. We aren't talking 40 to 50 feet, it's more like 1,000 feet. I live with someone who was a pilot for many years and served in the Air Force so if you think I'm nieve you'd be sadly mistaken again. Sorry, but it is what it is and I have been taking note for years now. All the information is there if you do your research; I am very aware of what I'm really dealing with. The same fibers in my snow samples come out of my skin. These fibers diminish in the samples on days chem trailing isn't being done along with the ash residue in my house. I've been documenting for so long with very consistant results that I almost feel sorry for those of you still questioning because you refuse to pay attention to all the clues surrounding you. Then again, the people involved in this are counting on the majority of the population to remain ignorant to what they are doing.
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This is a reply to # 1,775,639if you absolutely and firmly believe that contrail's are causing MORGELLONS, then it's very possible that when you see a sky full of contrails your symptoms WILL get worse. But it is psychosomatic
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying your illness is psychosomatic. I'm just saying that the exacerbation that you experience when you see lots of contrails could be. It's well known that stress can exacerbate acute conditions. If you are stressing out over contrails than that stress could be a trigger for all of your MORGELLONS symptoms to get worse
Anyway, you said that you had gotten some good information because of your interactions with the EPA. What good information did you get?
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- Re: EPA Criminal Investigation Updat... angrymorg
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This is a reply to # 1,775,759Wow...really?
First of all, I wake from dead sleeps due to physical discomforts, it's after that when I look out my window, secondly, my pets also usually throw up at the same time I am experiencing nausea (three years of this with repeated episodes is not coincedental when the metals in body are increasing along with the metals in my environment since these projects started in my area. I was healthy without any problems before this happened to me. Psychosomatic my bleepidy, bleep and I guess if it's not you it's making sick you would be ignorant enough to make such a totally inhumane remark. As far as what I get from EPA, I'll save that information for my attorney and not for some nay-sayer who is too ignorant to suggest chem trails are contrails when contrails disappear and chem trails spread out into strange cloud formations that last until nightfall. Sorry...but anyone with this happening to them are well aware of things and if you look at the MSDS reports on things being used you will find most of the Morgellons symptoms are listed in metals used in chem trails for their listed toxicities. I didn't arrive at this over night. I had to document things for years to get my answers and people like you are why we can't get help as this stuff literally eats our skin and insides alive as we suffer for years. Shame on you and you have no idea the cruelty of the remarks you have made...I have nothing more to say to someone like you, outside of maybe if you had suffered immensely with Morgellons you could pull your head out of you know where!!!!!
- Re: EPA Criminal Investigation Updat... Tizona
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This is a reply to # 1,777,390yes I kind of figured that's what would happen
Look, I didn't say your disease was psychosomatic. I specifically didn't say that. I said that the EXACERBATION of your symptoms that you experience when you see a lot of contrails may very well be psychosomatic
Do you see the difference there?
I know very well MORGELLONS is a very real and very horrible disease. I never said anything else
I simply disagree with your assertion that it is caused by contrails. Obviously there's nothing that I can say to you that is going to change your mind. And that's okay.
I sure hope that you find a treatment that works for you
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- Re: EPA Criminal Investigation Updat... patientadvocate
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This is a reply to # 1,771,663I have some students who are chemistry and engineering students who have agreed to test any samples I give them.
Chem trail spraying in our area suddenly has stopped either because of the weather or because they are just taking a break.
I have been documenting chem trails for 6 months and have enough evidence to truly establish that they are real.
Fish and bird die offs may or may not be related but one thing is for certain,...chem trails are very real and anybody who knows a little about airplanes and little about physics can see a big difference and can see patterns that just do not apply to commercial traffic.
The problem is that there is a government within the government and that the filthy rich billionares are privy to what lays ahead for planet Earth. Do you think this money grabbing that is happening all over the USA is coincidence or are they making a last ditch effort to get the last of the crop before the big droubt.
If you have legitimate samples that are air tight I will test them.
Morgellans disease is occurring in every state and uniformly so,....more or less. So are chemtrails.
Aluminum oxides may in fact harm immune system. The kind of testing we need to solve this riddle is not being done,...these fibers found in skin need to undergo mass spectronomy. Who is doing that.
If you want to persue testing, samples must be air tight as oxidation and leakage will skew results. Air testing is also difficult because samples of air will leak out of balloons, plastic,.etc.
They are spraying these chemicals over air bases and congressional buildings so I doubt that some sinister poisoning is taking place,...however,...contamination,immune supression, and even extra terrestrial hypothesis are all open for discussion.
Let me know.
BP
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This is a reply to # 1,775,600YES chemtrails are real.. they are NOT con-trails..totally different.. Chemtrails contain the very same pathogens that I am finding in my morgellons plagued body - NO question - no ifs ands or buts.. I have pictures, videos, and I have samples.
Anyone who would take the time to register on this board just so they can oppose the TRUTH is a sock-puppet.. being paid by the bad guys.
IMHO anyone who adopts the practice of ridiculing or belittling suffering people about their bio-terror weapon infections is just as guilty as the ones doing the spraying. They will get their just reward, I promise you-
The best thing we can do is ignore them and continue on our search for a cure, or at least some way to ease the suffering...
We serve a mighty and a Holy God - and nothing happens without His allowing it.. there IS a reason this is going on and I have an idea that we may be on the cusp of the biggest showdown between Good and evil this ole world has ever seen!
Hang in there!!!
TA
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