And it's also long enough to break protein down into smaller pieces (peptides and amino acids), these smaller pieces can connect with carbohydrates/sugard and/or creatine (in red meat) and/or nitrates (from vegetables) and form new substances. These new substances are called Hetero Cyclic Amines (HCAs).

And again this requires very high heat.  The person was asking about steaming.  So show us all proof that steaming vegetables can produce HCAs.

By the way nitrates are common in raw fruits and vegetables.  Furthermore it is nitrites that are the issue, not nitrates:

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1449606#i

What is really ironic here is that Moreless used to make the same exact error.

 Hv you let me down :(

The only person that has let you down is you.  You let yourself down when you refused to take advantage of the free FACTS being presented to you so you could further your knowledge.  Instead you chose to keep repeating the same proven wrong misinformation.

For instance I had to point out to you that many of the same toxins that you complained about in cooked foods were also found in the raw fruits that you promote and/or are produced naturally by the body.  I also had to point out to you that cancer causing aflatoxins found in many raw foods can be inactivated by cooking.  And I had to point out to you numerous times about the goitrogens and inhibitors found in many raw foods including the raw fish you advocate.  And to top it all off you failed to take in to account that isolated substances such as the opioid compounds you mentioned work differently when isolated as opposed to being present in combination with counterbalancing compounds within the plant.  The whole isolated compound thing is pharmaceutical type thinking, which I thought you were against.

So look at all you were given a chance to learn, but decided to ignore it because you did not want to change your mindset despite all the evidence proving your hypothesis wrong.  So the loss is really yours.

Thanks for being my guru for so long, your methods of figuring things out used to really impress me, however now you've taken a defensive stance for your cult (didn't used to be a cult) rather than seeking the truth.

It's not a cult at all.  Cults are told what to think and do, such as the raw food propaganda sites that tell you that cooking food is evil or something.  People here are free to share ideas as long they are not being disruptive, and as long as they are ready and willing to back up their claims if called on them.  If someone comes here and keeps claiming over and over that the Purple People Eater is loose in New York City eating people then I am not going to tolerate such made up nonsense.  And this is where people are having a problem with your posting.  You just keep reposting the same information that has already been proven wrong and that are contradictory to your own claims.  So there is no cult atmosphere here whatsoever.  If you want to see an example of a cult look at the Moreless forum where you are only allowed to discuss the protocol of the cult leader.  If you cannot be brainwashed and will not comply you are banned from the cult as there is no free thinking allowed.

I still don't believe you're peddling your supplement website (on the contrary the 'propoganda' website you mentioned has absolutely no profit or even income streams, and focuses on using modern technology and natural laws to find the best solutions to modern problems.

It makes no difference if a site is for profit or nonprofit, they can still be a propaganda site.  All they have to have is a strict agenda to spread misinformation.   If you want a great example just look at the Weston Price Foundation, which is my opinion is the most ludicrous propaganda site on the web. Their agenda is to promote their sponsors, the beef and dairy industry.  Yet they are still a nonprofit group.

If you seriously (and I doubt it) can't see how cooking is unnatural (this should be common knowledge to anyone) then I guess all hope for you and this forum is lost.

If you would rather ingest the toxins previously mentioned, including those you oppose in cooked foods but that are found in the diet you advocate then go for it.  But I have yet to meet a healthy raw foodist, but have seen a number of people who eat cooked, even microwaved, food living close to or past 100.

Good luck patching up the invincible monster of the erroneous cooking diet, I simply don't have time to point out the errors in your responses, as there are so many basic ones it would literally take a book to correct all the wrong concepts and portray common sense like cooking is unnatural to this cult-like atmosphere. Simple question, what did humans eat before we learned to cook.

In order to show me errors you would have to have real facts, which you apparently do not have. You did not even know the same "toxins" that you complained about in cooked food were a major part of the diet you propose.  If you were unaware of those simple facts then why should we have faith in any of your other claims.  Again people should get their facts from real research sites, not false propaganda sites.  It will save people a lot of embarrassment. 

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F$#@ they ate fruit and insects, nuts, and small small animals.

I really tried to pay you back for your help, but you're simply another sect of the erroneous 'patch and go' modern world, a little better maybe, still ignorant to the simple truth.

See my last comment.