threw up oil during first liver flus... 
lunagirl3
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After many years of wanting to do a Liver Flush but being very scared, I tried my first one last night. I drank a lot of apple juice every day for 2 weeks. I have a hypoglycemia problem and need to eat animal protein with every meal. The day of the flush I ate halibut and salmon for breakfast and lunch with vegetables and a beef broth. I stopped eating and drinking at 2pm.
I drank the 2 doses of Epsom Salts with apple juice at 6pm and 8pm. I drank the oil/grapefruit juice (it was more like 1/2 c oil and almost 1 c grapefruit juice. Was fine. Layed down immediately at 10pm. Could not sleep. Did not take the ornithine as I don't have problems sleeping and I have many food allergies and did not want to take something new.
Well, I got quite nauseous around midnight so I got up to get a glass of water and a bag to throw up in. Then it got much worse by standing up and I had to run to the toilet. I threw up 3x, what seemed like all the oil and grapefruit juice. The nausea completely went away. I did not sleep much all night though.
I can't find information on here as to whether to continue the the salts and oil this morning even if I threw up. I am concerned about dehydrating myself, as I've had 10 months of diarrhea (not 1 normal bowel movement), have a history of Crohns and my medication has not worked.
Any advice??? Thanks....
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... telman
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This is a reply to # 166,917The purpose of the Epson salts the following morning is to purge your bowels so that any toxins form the Liver Flush are not absorbed back into the body or linger around irritating the bowel. If it was me I would take at least one dose.
- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... hanna
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MoreThis is a reply to # 166,918Even if you throw up the flush works. The gallbladder gets purged out when the oo hits. Read that at another forum.
- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... hanna
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... fsboeira
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This is a reply to # 166,917What you wrote suggest you have a congested liver. I threw up in one of my first flushes and it was when my liver was badly congested.
Drinking water after the oil tends to cause the vomiting. In my experience we should take the oil plus juice and nothing else for at least 8 to 10 hours sometimes even longer and only then we should go for the water to help hydrate the body.
Another important element: I know may people take several doses of Epsom Salt I take only one two hours before the Oil+Juice and that seems to be enough
As Hanna said, even when we throw up the flush is likely to work, but of course not 100%.
Don´t give up! You took the fisrt brave big step. the first flush is always the most fearful, but hopefully your results will be good and you should think of a next one to decongest your liver.
Good luck
Fernando
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... downfall100
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This is a reply to # 166,920Yep, you should still get stones out. I beleive within 30 minutes of taking the oil is when the stones have most activity of being released from the ducts, so I would think if you haven't thrown up within that sort of time it should be ok. I felt (and would of thrown up if i didnt take ginger) sick 3 hours after taking the oil on my last flush. I sat next to the toilet incase I needed to puke but then relaised i also needed the toilet, and released stones even though i was on the verge of puking all the oil up.
- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lunagirl3
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This is a reply to # 166,921Thanks to everyone who responded so quickly this morning. I did not drink any water last night except when I felt nauseous, I went to get water but did not make it. I threw up BEFORE any water. I drank a small sip of water after to cleanse my mouth after throwing up.
I did drink the Epsom Salts this morning. I will do another small dose of oil/juice in 1/2 hour from now (2 hrs after salts). And I will do a coffee enema 2 hours after that. Does that sound ok??
I want to add that I did NOT do a parasite or kidney cleanse prior to this flush. I was on a Sea Salt /vitamin C parasite cleanse for 6 weeks but stopped that 3 weeks ago, so the bugs have had time to repopulate....
I have had 10 months of inflamed intestines/chronic diarrhea (Crohn's disease supposedly) that medication is not helping. I am nervous to further inflame my intestines and/or cause too much dehydration from the Epsom Salts . But I continued with the flush anyway. I have not felt badly at all...aside from the nausea before throwing up last night.
No pain or sensations in liver/gallbladder area. No hypoglycemia.
This morning I went to the bathroom and there were about 8 medium green irregular small things in the toilet. I fished one out with toilet paper and smushed it, and it looked just like avocado. I have to admit I DID eat an avocado with breakfast yesterday because I need the fat to feel ok during the day. So no stones yet.
Any other advice for TODAY?? If I take a 1/4 c oil with 1/4 grapefruit juice this morning, should I then do another Epsom Salts 2 hours later, and then the coffee enema 2 hours after that? And should I be eating anything at all?
THANKS ALL!!!- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... moth
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This is a reply to # 166,922You can do the oo mixture again this morning if you wish and might get more stones but its not necessary. Depends on whether you feel your body is up to it. I'm sure the green things were bile stones, not avocado, they're very soft - that's normal. (and avocado would almost certainly have been digested, its a fruit, very easy to disgest)
With Chron's I think its very important to do an enema or colonic after the flush (I guess coffee enema is fine) to make sure the colon is clear and all the stones and bile were flushed out and not caught in the colon and releasing toxins back into your system. But maybe you should wait till evening to do it or even the next morning. Because the epson salts will be working pretty good to flush you out during the day.- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... moth
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This is a reply to # 166,928P.S. you can eat light today but wait until you're finished with all olive oil (if you decide to do it again) and epson salts. Then an hour later you can start eating a bit.
- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lisag
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This is a reply to # 166,929i've learned the hard way through throwing up that i can't tolerate a full dose of epsoms... so i take half as much as is recommended, tops.
best,
lisa- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lunagirl3
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This is a reply to # 166,934Thanks to everyone again for writing back so quickly!!
I feel like I tolerated the salts fine. What I threw up was the oil it seemed...but I did the early morning dose of salts at 7:30am, then the oil/juice mix at 9:45am, and now the second morning dose of salts at 12pm. I will eat light at 1pm.
I feel fine, except for a slight nausea in my throat from this second Epsom drink this morning. I will lay down and hopefully feel fine.
A few remaining questions:
1. If I do not pass any stones, am I okay or am I in trouble because I am now congested and backed up?
2. I have hardly peed or pooped since last night, pardon the expression, and this is very strange for me because I have frequent urination and diarrhea. Is this normal for this procedure?? When will I start excreting normally (for me!) again?
3. I have no pain around liver, no dizziness, no hunger, no headache, no breathing issues (I have multiple chemical sensitivity so those are usually my bad reactions to things...). I do feel slightly jittery and completely unable to sleep. Is this normal??
THANKS AGAIN!!- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... downfall100
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This is a reply to # 166,936First of all good for you stomaching the 2nd dose of oil!
I can't answer Q1 or Q3, but for your second question, you should really be having diahrea before you even start to take the olive oil, in my experince. To enable this to happen though you need an emtpy stomach, which allows the Epsom Salts to pass through the body a lot quicker, therefore a few bowel movements happen before the oil is taken so your nice and emtpy. I find its best just to strickly eat only raw food on the day of flush, preferably juiced.- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lunagirl3
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This is a reply to # 166,939sorry, i should have said that i did have 2 or 3 bouts of "diarrhea" (actually, pure liquid) before doing the oil, both times. but after the oil at night, nothing. that's what was concerning me.
but i have since passed probably about 40 tiny stones, if that's what they are. medium/dark green and some brown. i am not longer worried about any results. i will do a coffee enema later tonight once i've eaten dinner.
thanks for your post!
- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lunagirl3
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... leni
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This is a reply to # 166,936Hi lunagirl,
I read your first post and like you have Crohns and hypoglycemia and find it really hard to go without meat at mealtimes. I'm not even gonna talk about the Sugar cravings... : ) I've done about 10 flushes so far, and each time my digestion and bloating gets slightly better.
I really think you should follow this flush up with an enema or even better a colonic. I too was very was constipated after my last flush but only back to back enemas were able get the waste/toxins out. Hopefully you should start elimating again the day after the flush.
I'm guessing the reason for the jittery feeling is due to the release of toxins into your system, but if the flush has worked you'll get a little relief from the hypoglycemia symptoms which is always good! But generally, you should find that you're able to get a good night's sleep in the following days after your flush.
leni
- No need for diahrrea at night accord... hanna
20 y
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This is a reply to # 166,940Often, if your body is low on magnesium, some of the ES will be taken up by the body.
Spirit the originator and Webmaster wrote a long time ago, that you don't have to have diarrhea during the evening.
See his post //www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=447&i=8513
I personnally like to be empty and have buttpee when I start the flush, so 3 evenings before I use Oxypowder or ES, but that is just because I prefer it. It has nothing to do with the protocol.
- No need for diahrrea at night accord... hanna
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... downfall100
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lunagirl3
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lisag
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... moth
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... moth
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lunagirl3
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... downfall100
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... Cynthia777
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This is a reply to # 166,917I've done 5 flushes so far and threw up o the third one but still got decent results.
I think that it is possible that you could have been reacting to the mixture of apple juice and grapfruit juice in the same flush. I normally don't have a hard time with grapefruit juice but decided to forego the epsom/grapfruit mixture and tolerate the epsom/water just to see what happened. I had absolutely no nausea. Could be coincidence but it was also the first fluch where I felt a noticable surge in my energy level.
Were I you I'd use either the apple or the grapefruit, not both...see what happens.
- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lunagirl3
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lunagirl3
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... firedawg911
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This is a reply to # 166,917In my opinion, the reason you got nauseous is because you broke one of the cardinal rules of liver flushing. You are not supposed to eat any fat the day of the flush. The fish you ate, although good fat, are full of fat. You need to eat fat-free all day to allow the bile to build up so that once the virgin olive oil/grapefruit juice mixture are taken the gallbladder ejects the gallstones. I have read that eating any type of fat the day of the flush can make you very nauseous. I hope this helps.
- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lunagirl3
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This is a reply to # 166,977my problem is that i get very hypoglycemic if i fast or don't have enough animal protein. i guess i thought fish was better than beef or chicken. there is no way i can go 24 hours without protein. even eating eggs for the 2 meals that day would not be enough protein. i don't eat any grains or soy. any suggestions for next time?
thanks!!- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... firedawg911
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This is a reply to # 166,979I really don't know much about hypoglycemia. I found an interesting website:
http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C18537.html that gives a lot of advice about the condition. One of the options listed that is supposed to help is fasting which I find helpful for most physical ailments. I hope this helps.- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lunagirl3
20 y
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This is a reply to # 166,986thanks for that link, it's a great site. i have seen it before but forgot about it.
i'm going to try to find a naturopath that can supervise my fasting...i am too scared to try it alone.
that site also says small frequent meals with protein and fat are needed for hypoglycemia, which is what i find very true for me. however, i did pretty well not eating dinner and hardly eating the next day. i wonder if the Epsom Salts had something to do with that...keeping my blood Sugar levels balanced...?
thanks for your posts
- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... thehaha
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This is a reply to # 166,989I don't care for the way the ES make me feel and have just as good of results taking magnesium citrate for the laxative. And only one dose. I also noticed I don't sleep as well with the ES. Also, I eat whatever I want until 12 p.m. even meat. I've only thrown up once. My first time when I used 1cup of OO. Won't do that again!
- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... firedawg911
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This is a reply to # 166,989If you like the taste, I believe low-fat cottage cheese would make a wise choice for food the day of doing your liver flush.
- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... zinski89
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This is a reply to # 167,045This is the 12th days of my fast and i decided to end it with a Liver Flush but i am regretting that now. I took two mixtures last night along with the oo mix and at about 3am i woke up, had to use the bathroom and vomit. I have been vomiting any liquids ingested ever since.Ive found if i lay on my back its fine but as soon as i shit i need to rush tot he bathroom. Should i let it pass or go to an instacare?
- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... hanna
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This is a reply to # 2,156,627No that was not a good idea. After a fast
you should slowly get back to eating. The flush stimulates bile and because of the fasting you did not have enough bile. Make sure you drink enough water so you don't dehydrate. Often people feel sick because
they are dehydrated, I have read over the years if people drank enough water on the day of the flush they did not get sick.
This last is an observation over several years.
- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... hanna
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lunagirl3
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... firedawg911
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... lunagirl3
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- Re: threw up oil during first liver ... telman
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