Fluke infection......Need Guidance a... 
plzhlpme
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Hello, I have been very ill for some time, probably having more than one problem, but the main issue I believe is the current parasite (fluke) infection. Recently my health has been really poor, even being in the hospital for 2 days for observation. A few days before the hosptial stay, I had a colonscopy/endoscopy performed. It was during the prep for the colonscopy that I had first realized what may have been my problem. I spotted a live fluke...movement in the water. A small 3/8" dark purple swimmer. Tried to catch it, but missed. So after the couple of days at the hospital, all kinds of tests, ct scans, x rays, stool tests and nothing showing up to explain my awful sickness and declining health, a doctor did agree to order me prazquantel and I am half way into those meds...2 pills/3 days. I opted for the meds because I felt this infection would be the most potent for my serious infection.
Stepping back in time, trying to figure out this thing....I have to wonder about 15 months ago when I started having some breathing problems with a productive cough if this wasn't the time of infection....or perhaps it was long before, as I have also been living with the fibromyalgia dx for almost 2 decades.
Last night I have seen the first dead fluke....about 5/8" long and more almost clear looking. I did a zapper treatment, drank some grapefruit juice with my meds and maybe it had something to do with this first one coming out.
The scarey part to me is one of the things my doctor mentioned.....as I was talking with him about my suspicion of the liver fluke...he said they could get into the blood stream. I think that is probably true and in fact maybe throughout. This is scarey for sure and I feel for all those who suffered and are suffering, as I know quite well the awful illness and suffering as well.
What is the prognosis for getting my health back?
I do plan on going on the Clarkia tincture, doing a zapper treatment (the one I have has only 3 frequencies, which I am not sure which is best), doing my supplements, coffee enemas, and anything else that I may think is smart. There is so much anxiety over this infection I can't even describe it, so reassurance from anyone with experience, who has healed them selves, or is verse in this may help.
Do I need to have this fluke identified? What lab?
Is the Clarkia double strength tincture effective?
I would really appreciate feedback and any help. I will also hope that my story helps others. I pray for your health and mine. God bless, Joe
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- Re: Fluke infection......Need Guidan... LoricaLady
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Thanks for the prayers. ;-)
Lots of people report good results with Clarkia . Hulda Clark 's advice is generally very seriously research based.
I would not worry that much about what kind of fluke it was. Chances are, just as Clark says, you have other parasites too. It can be interesting to know what they are, but the main thing is just to kill them all, and not see any anymore.
My personal experience with zappers is that not only do you need different frequencies, you need to be targeting different areas of the body - daily until you are feeling normal, then at least weekly thereafter. The thing is they can cause awful die off, so you have to procede carefully. I wouldn't advise using the zapper and herbals together initially as that could be too overwhelming. Later, both every day I believe (not Wormwood every day though as it is a different story as you can research.)
Here is my story of how I got success killing parasites & far more energy in general. As it indicates, never assume your thyroid and/or adrenals are just fine, or that you don't have heavy metal poisoning in addition to parasites.
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1522290#i
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- Re: Fluke infection......Need Guidan... plzhlpme
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This is a reply to # 1,560,081I am assuming the contrary.....That I do have heavy metal problems and adrenal/thyroid problems as well. I will keep your advice in mind as I seek those therapies. Currently I am waiting on my hair analysis and the results. I am doing the ARL lab....."Nutritional Balancing" approach and plan on doing a Zeolite product for that.
With the adrenals, I am fortunate enough to have a friend who purchased for me a MRS 2000 PEMF machine/mat. I have had magnetic resonance treatments 10-15 years ago by a Dr Poesnecker who specialized in adrenal fatigue almost his whole life prior to his unfortunate death a few years ago in his 70's.
Certainly the die-off from different flukes/candida, whatever, would cause a different type of die-off, depending on the toxin being released, and perhaps I have been through one heck of a lot of die-off just through the fasting that got me in the hospital, I don't really know.
My sickness seems to be a toxicity everywhere in my body, the room spinning, and much pain everywhere. The problem or difficulty for me is to discern the die off from the original problems. I used to think it was easy when I was going on the idea it was just candida and everyone said "flu like" symptoms.....well, that doesnt seem to apply to me. I don't get fevers because of my immune system function, and this is a awful illness for sure.
I am going to reread your post carefully and take whatever I can for the beginning of my program. I do want to proceed with caution, but I certainly want to proceed on a path of health and hopefully I can.
I am glad you appreciated the prayers and I will have more coming, for you and all those who are suffering. I actually have the elders of the church coming today to lay hands on me and I will ask for those prayers to be extended to everyone with these problems. God bless, Joe
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- Re: Fluke infection......Need Guidan... plzhlpme
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I am wondering and most concerned about the "biting" and constant back pain, sometimes in the center, sometimes off to either side. As I have also said in a previous post, I wonder if this infestation began about the time of a productive cough and the relationship. Anybody else have a similar set of symptoms? Thank you, Joe
- Re: Fluke infection......Need Guidan... plzhlpme
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- Re: Fluke infection......Need Guidan... LoricaLady
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This is a reply to # 1,560,076Oh, here are some thoughts about the vertigo in case they might relate.
Have you heard of benign positional vertigo? I think that is more a name to attach to symptoms than anything else, though theoretically it is associated with the ossicles
moving around too much or something. It can be correlated to Menniere's (sp?) Syndrome, if not right away, sometimes later. That syndrome causes ringing in the ears, maybe a sense of fullness in the ears as well as vertigo.
The thing is Menniere's, and therefore for all I know, BPV, is correlated to problems with manganese being too low. Manganese can be too low due to too much milk or calcium, which binds manganese, and guess what, I was having problems with vertigo & ringing ears at times & was a milkaholic. Have you had your blood thoroughly tested for vitamins, minerals, amino acids, also for hormone levels? That can be very helpful.
The doctor who took 17 vials of blood from me for testing said my manganese was low. Now I take manganese supplements at least 4 hours before drinking any milk.
Just some more info to think over in case it might be helpful.- Re: Fluke infection......Need Guidan... LoricaLady
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This is a reply to # 1,560,291P.S. Since you mentioned prayer, I will tell you that virtually all my progress came about through guidance words from YHWH. Without Him I suspect I would never have gotten better.
For example, when I complained on CZ that I was having 5 days of fatigue after liver flushes, several correctly people told me I needed to do a parasite cleanse, but I though I didn't have any such critters. Then one day about that time Abba brought me the word "pepper", and I knew it meant cayenne pepper. I never associated it for a second with parasites but saw on the net that it has all kinds of health benefits so began taking it. Voila! "White rice" showed up in my stools and led me to realize I did, indeed, have parasites.
Things like that have kept happening. Abba is so good to us! (Also I think those worms mostly look like snakes for a reason, if you get my drift. ;-) )Advertisement
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- Re: Fluke infection......Need Guidan... plzhlpme
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This is a reply to # 1,560,291Well......that is interesting on the mennier's disease....I probably do have it, and it does seem to get more intense with the illness. I am currently waiting on ARL lab/hair results which should uncover mineral inbalances. That finally reminds me of a riddle I lived with for a few years.....as I did the Water Cure just for one day and had no ringing the following day.....mineral related!!!
- Re: Fluke infection......Need Guidan... LoricaLady
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This is a reply to # 1,560,479It so happened that the day after I started the "water cure" I had a doctor's apptm. There, for the first time I was told I had a high blood pressure reading. Gave up the "water cure" & have had normal readings ever since. I think just drinking judicious amounts of water & using Sea Salt does the same thing w/o possible hi blood pressure. Mho.
My doctor says those lab tests are not always diagnostically accurate and believes it is useful to go by symptoms as well, even essential.
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- Re: Fluke infection......Need Guidan... shroom
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This is a reply to # 1,560,076Next time try and get the little suc***. Many people have seen these, but nobody has a positive identification.
Flukes are rarely bigger than your thumbnail [the big ones] and it could be something that has passed over from an animal to humans zoonotic. We can find specialist who will be interested in identifying it. NOT labs, or doctors etc.
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Hello Shroom, I have since captured some, probably because of the drug therapy I did....dead and floating. They are about the length of the fingernail, but only 1/3 of the width....not sure how to post pics here, but I do have a pic of them. I also have the flukes in a small vial with mineral oil.
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- Identifying a fluke Langhorne
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This is a reply to # 1,560,076Any hospital lab can identify a fluke and/or the eggs. If there's a fluke in your system, it's not necessary to actually visualize the critter to verify the existance. It's sure to be depositing eggs into your intestinal system. A stool sample submitted to a hospital laboratory will identify the type of fluke by the specific shape of the eggs found under the microscope.
Incidentially, fluke (Trematoda) infection is EXTREMELY rare in the United States - have you been travelling to a foreign country, eaten uncooked meat or have you gutted a wild animal while hunting? I think maybe there has been a rare transmission by ticks. It's very difficult to transmit from person to person unless by fecal contamination (sh!t).- Re: Identifying a fluke plzhlpme
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This is a reply to # 1,564,029I am not sure how rare it is and I have not traveled to other countries. I do know that you are not correct with the hospital labs being able to identify through stool tests, as I had 2 tests done, because I told them I seen a live one. The tests did not reveal anything and the gastro doc told me it was a piece of fiber which will seem to move. Well, I did get my doctor to prescribe me prazi and after that I was able to find more "dead" flukes. The lab tests were worthless! A endoscopy and colonoscopy the same week was worthless with this matter as well.
I don't know how I got it or how common it really is.....a mystery to me. I am continuing with clarke's double strength tincture since I finished the 3 day course of prazi.Advertisement
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- Re: Identifying a fluke megan
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This is a reply to # 1,564,097how common it really is?....very. there's no truth in the idea of having to be out of country to contract parasites. i've not traveled and have enough of them.
doctor requision for microscopic o&p always come back negative. it is worthless, you could put a whole worm in there and they'd still say it doesn't exist.
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ok... lets talk.
I take great exception to your statement regarding trematodes...
the fact that the U.S. in somehow miraculously immune or completely devoid of parasites is an unfortunate but common misnomer.
In FACT:
(nematodes)
Stongyloides is indigenous to the south east US region, specifically to the Appalachia.
Hookworm was at one time quite prevalent in all of the southern US.
pin worms are STILL common place among young children and have been known to cause fatalities.
Liver fluke infestation has reached epidemic proportions as well, particularly in Florida among live stock population involved in HUMAN consumption.
The specific parasite you refer to is probably schistosomiasis, which tends to be a bit more "exotic" but nonetheless elusive in diagnosis. Infection occurs by merely swimming in infected waters: think "local watering hole" rather than raw sewage. One occurs in north africa and resides in the bladder, one in various parts of south africa and last in asia, both intestinal. Diagnosis typically depends on fecal egg count which varies according to life cycle and other variables but typically the eggs actually encyst in the vessels or tissues sorrounding the organs they infect, promoting inflammatory response rather than pouring out of the most conveniently located os. Treatment for this parasite, as with many is enormously variable depending on specific species, dosages, body weight and other unknown voodoo magic the remains as of yet undiscovered and largely UNSUCCESSFUL.
Tapes are pretty common as well, in various forms and again endemic in NW US all the way into canada (echinocochous). while the pork is predominantly restricted to the southern US or in regions of heavy immigrations patterns from indigenous areas, such as Mexico.
Anyway, the bottom line is so many people would not be so ill and remain undiagnosed if so easy to detect or treat parasitic infection... particularly via fecal exam which is notoriously inaccurate (google it) Newer tests depend on the technology of serological antibody test which may still be actually inaccurate depending on the patients immune status, and term or severity of infection (anergy).
parasites are UBIQUITOUS.
here long before us and long after.
just a thought.
cheers!- Re: Identifying a fluke plzhlpme
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Hello, Thank you for your reply. This is certainly an educational process for all, including me. You have obviously done your homework and are more astute to the type of infections that are reported.
I can only concur that I did have at least a fluke infection, as I have a few samples saved. I live in the NE, which isn't mentioned in the different areas of infection, so it may be that it is even more prevalent, or in the least, a bit more less accurate as to where the infections are possible.
I can also attest to the stool test being inaccurate, as I had 2 tests done, upon my insisting, just days prior to me "capturing" the samples. I did not even go back to the doctors to show him, as what good what it do.....He actually told me "I prescribed this med as a courtesy to you"....I just have a real hard time with this beligerence and don't care to see him at this point....especially knowing how I have suffered.
I am only left to wonder how many people with various Dx's of fibromyalgia and other umbrella type dx's that have this issue instead?
God bless everyone on the road to healing!
Joe
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