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I have a really bad feeling Bush is gonna 'win' again but I don't put much stock in my own intuition because I'm a pessimist and I'm wrong most of the time anyhow. My only basis is just that the most historically consistent pattern for the world to fundamentally transform by 2012 would need the chaos and violence to continue to build, to reach a critical mass of some kind, and I see that happening quicker with Bush than with Kerry.
Just wondering if anyone else has any pyschic type intuitions about the outcome of the Presidential election in a little over a month.
Do the stars and planets have anything to say about this?
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MoreThis is a reply to # 139,925Hi.. I was wondering.. what is this big transformation regarding 2012 and is the world supposed to be like afterwards.
just curious,
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Hi Healing,
Well supposedly Winter solstice 2012 will mark some sort of turning point for humanity. Some people say it's gonna be the dawn of a new age of compassion. Some people say it's gonna be mostly about different races and nationalities feeling unified again. Some people even say humankind will physically evolve including the possibility of gaining some level of telepathy.
The interesting thing to me is that, unlike all other end-of-the-world prophecies that have come and gone uneventfully, this one seems to be backed by a really diverse array of supporting prophecies and events including but not limited to:
The end of the Mayan Calendar (derived over 1400 years ago)
The Hopis (cobwebs in the air)
Terence McKennas Timewave formula (based on the I Ching)
The Tibetan Kalachakra
Geological Magnetic shifts forecasted in the Earth sometime soon
The Venus Transit's Followup in 2012
The Sunspot Maximum coming in 2012
The Alignment of our Solar system's plane with the Galaxy in 2012
Many people also think they're experiencing signs which are claimed to be involved with 2012 such as more poignant or more frequent coincidences, synchronicities, deja vu etc.
Hope that helps. There's lots more stuff online about it.
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This is a reply to # 139,929I have heard and read bits and pieces of these beliefs. what I am trying to understand in all of this is what will life on Earth supposedly be like after these events. I mean will our everyday life be similar to what it is now with out all of the chaos or are we going to have drastic changes? it is hard to focus on my everyday things and running a business when these ideas are swirling about. Even my hopes and dreams for the future seem in limbo and filled with a sense of dread.
Will life be just as it is now but better ie, peace, joy, wonderment etc. or are we to expect colapse of our economy, our institions, government, etc and it will be replaced with an as yet unknown?
any thoughts?
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None of the texts I've read that talk about 2012 really get very specific about how the world will be different besides the general things I've already mentioned.
I'm pretty sure it's not gonna be like flicking a light switch one night and the next morning everyone's gonna be holding hands singing Kumbaya. 2012 may just mark a 'turning of the tide' to quote Gandalf. Maybe it'll be something like D-Day in WWII or maybe we're already that far along and this election is the D-Day. Many of the ideas I've read involve reaching a 'critical mass' of enlightened people. One number quoted was 160,000. Supposedly after that, everyone else picks it up like a clothing fad or something. (slowly or quickly? i have no idea)
As for questions about whether the govt. will fall apart, whether the economic system will change, if weather and climate will intensify, etc....I'd count on some changes everywhere but I'd feel like a phoney speculating about details. Noone knows. I'd try not to worry about what's gonna happen too far in the future. We just gotta do our best today, do what we know is right for the planet and for each other.- thank you n/p healing 20 y 1,676
- I dunno headcase
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This is a reply to # 139,929hey buddy, just doing a casual reply to your message. I am very well knowledge on the 2012 predictions, world prephecies, etc. So I understand completely what you are talking about.
I must make mention that I have been ruthlessly researching it for the last 3 years. It all began when I personally had way too many, way too regular experiences of deja vu, including many premonitions, one of which I was able to prove to my friend (thank god Im glad I told him, he thought I was nuts tho, until I proved it with a photo). I believe strongly that there is an increase of telepathic occurances (quantum entanglement), deja vu (i remember back in april I had about 3 deja vu a day for a whole week), and other phenomenon over time with myself.
the point of me responding to this was just to put a testimonial to your last sentence. thanks.- Only 3 a day for 1 week, huh? UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,060,970Seems as the time draws nearer the action sure is picking up steam!
Just like finding your post...*flash*...here you are!
I, too, have proof...and its still a little scary-nutty sometimes.
And its also waaaaaaaaaaaaaay cooooooooooooooool!!!
Anyway...nice chatting...buenos noches.
O and nice site btw.
lol
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- Re: predicting the U.S. Election elly
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This is a reply to # 139,928Headcase is there a website you could supply on the events of 2012 so that others could read it.
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I dunno exactly what you're after. Here's a link to a website that talks about some of the different 'stuff' involving 2012 theory.
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This is a reply to # 139,933The website that you gave is fine, i was just interested in learning a little more about 2012.
I had heard about that many years ago, but did not know anything really about it.
I haven't had a chance to read it yet, i do appreciate that you found the website.
I am sure that others will definitely find it interesting as well.
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This is a reply to # 139,933wow. all of this stuff is total news to me. i am really amazed, and also quite frightened about the meteor discussed in that website.
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- Re: predicting the U.S. Election Tracey
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This is a reply to # 139,925Hey Headcase - how're you doing??
These past few weeks have been kinda weird (toooo many planets all in Virgo!! nit-picky, critical, angry energy about lately - luckily it's on it's way out...not feeling it much this week - phew!)...
Anyway, interesting topic.
Back at the beginning of 2004 I had a really bad feeling like you're having now. I felt (it felt like a huge intuition) that Bush and Co. were actually brainstorming on what their tactic would be...like what kind of event they would spring on the world just before the election....and then they'd sail into their second term. (I thought they'd bring bin Laden out of hiding or put the USA on Code RED/Orange or whatever the high alert is...jeeez)
Anyway...now my intuition says that John Kerry is going to win.
Who knows. Do you ever get the Mountain Astrologer magazine? Man - it is amazing...and in every issue they have totally fascinating articles on the election, the candidates etc etc....and the US chart is looking, woah, pretty intense....the Sibly chart...you should take a look at it. But, you know, some astrologers think Bush is going to win and some think Kerry's going to win - who knows.
I really can't imagine that Bush is going to win again, astrologically, because Saturn is sitting right on his Sun and in the past when I've looked at his chart during election time it just doesn't look very good - but Kerry's looks pretty good, it really does.
You know what was pretty weird? If I remember correctly there were 4 Democratic candidates all with Sagittarius Mars'!! Wild eh? Totally idealistic, wanting to take action in the world and do something that matters, with integrity...I thought that was pretty cool. Kerry is a Sagittarius with a Capricorn Mercury (totally sober speaker/thinker) and his Venus is in Scorpio which is interesting (could get him into trouble with sex scandals) - but on the plus side he truly values what lies beneath the 'mask' of the world...he values the truth underneath it all...so that's good.
I'm just rambling, Headcase...
But the other thing I thought a while back was that this election is not reeeeally going to matter...I feel like the 2008 one will matter most...that's when some radical shifts will begin to take place and then, the next one of course in 2012 will be pretty new...!
These are transformative times...we shouldn't fear anything that is ahead...we chose to be here and we have to radiate fearlessness and also realize this is only a very fascinating, complex creative game...for all of our evolvement...it's all going to be aok...
love Tracey- Astrology Articles on the US Electio... Tracey
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This is a reply to # 139,939Headcase - this should keep you busy!
Maya del Mar is always interesting - there's a lot here...
love Thttp://www.mountainastrologer.com/webnews.html
- Re: predicting the U.S. Election headcase
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Hey Tracey,
Thanks for responding. I've been alright I guess.
I haven't studied too much about Western Astrology yet. I haven't got many of the things memorized. The planets and constellations: what they mean, what the combinations mean. It all sounds so beautiful, planets orientations, points of references, angles, geometry...determing what sort of personalities we end up born into. It's pretty far out there compared to psychology/psychiatry's explanation but I reckon god's made some way crazier stuff that we've proven like music, evolution, the way DNA works. If it's true astrology'd have to be up in the top 5 craziest things though, hehe.
About all you said sounds pretty accurate to me. I do think the republicans got something up their sleeve, though it's probably not Bin Laden. There were definitely some idealists in the democratic running earlier on. I'd be pretty embarrassed if another president got into another sex scandal within 50 years of Clinton's presidency. Maybe your right about 2008, if we're on an exponential curve like gravity's pull into tha one-two then it's all gonna happen near the end.
What you mention about the Sibly/U.S. chart interests me a lot. It seems to me like that could be analyzed blind in astrology better than for a person cause this country's understood collectively, whereas analyzing the life of a person is so much more subjective. I will check out the Mountain Astrologer and the link in your other post.
For now I'm just trying to focus on whether or not I believe in the Mayans version of things. I'm wading through Jose Arguelles' books to that end. I still intend to write some sort of program but I'm having trouble coming up with a worthwhile idea. Thanks again.
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This is a reply to # 139,942Hi Headcase...once again you got me chuckling!
Top 5 craziest things eh? heh heh - toooo funny...I spent a while yesterday musing over your post and wondering how I could put in to words why I don't think it's so crazy, but really, my brain just ain't working that well these days! (I've got Pluto squaring my Saturn in Pisces in the 5th house of Self-Expression...???? eeek) I am just having a hard time thinking linearly!!! ack.
Anyway, I'm not even going to try to explain how I think it works (you probably know it anyway!) right now...
Yeah, definitely look into the US Sibly chart - did you find it? It should be pretty easy to find if you google it. I'm sure you'll find lots of cool things to look up! Check out the position of the planets on Sept 11, 2001...Saturn/Pluto opposition! Pluto had rounded the corner into the 1st house (one's personality, the way the world sees you -POWERFUL-, and the lens through which you look at the world - in Sagittarius - very moral/religion right/wrong black and white, idealistic thinking - has good/bad energy just like Pluto) - and Saturn was opposite in the 7th house (open-enemies)....pretty crazy.
Whenever I read biographies (love biographies on artists from 1880 to 1830!) it is SUPER easy to see what transits they are going through...because, of course, Biographies pick out the highlights of a life (good and bad) and, I always get a feeling: ah, this is totally Uranus and Venus or Pluto and Moon (etc etc) and, sure enough, plug in their birthday and the date the event happened and there it is clear as day! Very cool.
I love it that you are interested in writing a program...if I can be of any help, just let me know....I'll put on my thinking cap to see what may be interesting...
I suppose, collecting the dates when good or bad events happened to past famous people might help with compiling data...
hmm....
I haven't read Jose's book yet - what's it like?
love T
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Hey again,
Yeah, it's all real tough for me to wrap my head around. Someone on another message board quoted the statistic that the combined gravitational effect of all the other planets on Earth is less than 2% of the moon's gravitational effect so if there's some actual real force behind it all it ain't gravity....whenever you're able to describe what you believe to be the mechanism of how it works I'm all ears, I mean I'm not going anywhere and I'm open to anything.
Right now I'm reading The Mayan Factor which Arguelles published in 1987. It starts off with some basics but gets really crazy really fast. Yeah, he's about at this level
by page 10.
Well, let's say just so it's in e-print and I've got a self-imposed deadline to begin this stuff I'll have a rough draft of an westernastrologyselftestingapplet by Wednesday night (though it ain't gonna be pretty).
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alright forget it, can't get an IDE - Headcase... Tracey
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This is a reply to # 139,958Ah - those dang ideas!!!
There is a window of opportunity for Revelatory Genius Ideas after October 16th, for you...when Mercury conjoins your Scorpio Moon and at the same time transiting Uranus trine's your Moon and transiting Mercury - ooh la la. Could be good...
Uranus trining your Moon is quite a long transit - are you feeling it? It started March 11, 2003 and goes until around March 2005. The feeling would be something like emotional excitement and newness....new FEELINGS, new Investigations (Scorpio), curious about new things (astrology is ruled by Uranus), basically being stimulated by new and out-there ideas...and really feeling them deeply. hmmm....
Have you seen the following website - it'll say it better than I can...choose the article that stands out for you and readon. It's an excellent site!
Well - I probably won't read the Mayan Factor - I think I'd probably feel the same thing as you...oh and thanks for giving Suzie the mayan links!
love T
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- Re: predicting the U.S. Election Tracey
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This is a reply to # 139,925HI all
As Vedic Astrology system,
If the Birth Charts of the Candidates are true and are
John McCain 1936 August 29 at 8:37 AM he has Virgo Ascendant.
Astrologically he has the best opportunities. As per his ascendant Lord and 10th Lord Placement. And according to his Dasha operation he may find some difficulties in the beginning but then things should work out well with him and he should be loved by the people in an increasing trend rather then what Happened with George W. Bush he even seems to cooperate good with his oppositions.
Hillary Clinton 1947 October 26 at 20:01 in Chicago. has a strong opportunity also but not as good as McCain. Her Ascendant Lord Mercury retrograde does not help her have a strong base of power and respect.
Also her Ascendant lord is not as strongly placed and under Favorable influences as McCain’s.
Things will always be changeable for her, she is not prone to disrespect, on the contrary she may do good work to her country but astrologically speaking Presidency does not seem to be for her in this period.
Barrack Obama 1961 August 4 at 10:00 am in Honolulu Hawaii. His Ascendant lord is strong in many ways but not very favorable to rise him to presidency as he is in dead state. And in his Dasha
Jupiter is Active, in Capricorn and retrograde in the 4th house, not an excellent placement, his Dasha does not bestow luck and power, also his Bhukti is no good around election time, so I think he may even not continue to his target or he may face a very embarrassing loss.
To sum up Astrologically McCain has the Best Opportunity and I personally think he is the next USA President.(40%)
Next in chance comes Hillary Clinton, (30%) and Barrack Obama also has a Fair Chance of 30%.
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