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..Until I sort out my eating disorder.
Yes I have it. I did not think about it much. I just thought I loved food too much, I thought I 'ENJOYED' the process of eating itself. I thought it was related to my sweet tooth condition. Yes it is (in a way) but I am afraid this problem is much deeper...
Steve gave me the idea that I might have had this issue. I stopped for a moment pondering about it and YES I have it.. unfortunately. I sat and tried to memorize when it has started in my life. I guess from my childhood when I was not able to distinguish whether I was really hungry. I ate because the meal was ready. We did not have fixed eating hours and food was always available to be taken from fridge. My mum always insisted that all food be eaten from plate even if I already was full. A lot of sweets were available all the time for me.My mum has eating disorder too.
When I discovered fasting more than 10 years ago I thought it would be the easiest way to sort all my health related problems (esp with Sugar consumption). I was looking for easiest and quickest ways. Without exaggerations(!) for the past 10 years I was thinking about either water or juice fast on a daily basis (mainly about water). Everyday was the beginning of my 'successful' journey to my perfect health.I wanted QUICK FIX. Yes, I was successful sometimes (thou very rarely) but usually it was 1-2 days and than AGAIN pigging out on everything within my sight and.. REGRETS, REGRETS, REGRETS.... After all those STUPID efforts I had a stomach ulcer operation with perforation (and it was BLOODY sore!).. And it did not help me to realize what was wrong on FIRST place.
Fasting WILL NOT (!) sort all ur health problems out ESPECIALLY IF you refuse to look DEEPER into what coursed it!! I remember one lady here in the forum intended to Water Fast because she did not know why she had started eating more recently. She thought if she fasted she would 'cure' it. I wrote to her that first of all she needed to understand WHY it happened, what was the course of it. Because no point to fight with the symptoms of 'disease' if u don't know the name of it. Make sense?
I personally completed 3 fasts. I was on juices 7 days, 10 days on water and my last fast was 7 days on water only. All of of them I messed up. My first 10 day Water Fast I messed up on day 8 of refeeding (I was about to die, I thought). Second one again I messed up on day 8 of eating (I didnt have BM and I was concerned.. I thought if I eat something bad than my body will freak out and I get a 'result'). No expected result but just regrets... When I was thinking about to begin another fast for a week I had a talk with Steve and he just opened my eyes about what is going on with me. So it is not just my Sugar addiction but something else.
WATER fast or any other types of dieting WILL NOT (!) solve ur problem especially if u have eating disorder! 'QUICK FIX' solution is NOT a case here.. We know here in this forum we have some individuals who were very successful in their efforts. They are ICONS OF SUCCESS for all of us. But WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT.. some are stronger than others, lets face it, guys. I always knew that the slower I start changing my eating habits the SURELY I get there. But I was not patient enough, I guess.
Ok, some food for ur thought and some links to read -
http://web4health.info/en/answers/ed-causes-overview.htm
(just look through all questions and answers over there, there are plenty of them)
http://web4health.info/it/ed-treat-why-difficult.htm
Again (the links Steve gave me) -
//www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1297467
//www.curezone.org/forums/f.asp?f=723
Don't worry, guys, we will get there! :)
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Wow, thanks for posting Nadia, I hope you reached the conclusions yourself because I do not boast to being an expert on this at all. But it is true that I get worried when I see people throwing all their eggs in the fasting basket, then get unhappy at the end of it and try again, and again, and again.
I have also spoken to one or two people privately about eating disorders, and they seem to have dealt with it by confronting it head on, and then it took time and they got support.
I wish I knew more but I don't. Like I say I think my own problems were resolved before I started fasting, and when I did it acted as a catalyst and a motivator. But if the problems were still hanging around, perhaps I would not have been so successful.
If I get any more info I will post it.
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This is a reply to # 1,300,173The emotional layers to eating disorders are easy to see in your words, a sort of flower that could become a *different* kind of flower. I confess i just scanned the first part, and thought:look into EFT. It sounds as though your thinking is quite insightful; you've already done a lot of the mental work, but that can only take you so far, in my view. The elegant thing about EFT though, is that it's in the "setup statements" that most of the work gets done--Then the tapping just resets the body's energetic meridians, and so it goes, like a flower opening in health and balance.
a lot of people say they know about EFT but have never worked with it. And that always strikes me as quite humorous--but then I also carried the 'knowledge' around for a few years before actually working with it on myself. A prerequisite to it is honesty, and I think that actually stops a lot of people from trying it out: you sound like you've come to that critical place where you are not wishing to hide anything from yourself--and that's a BIG key to healing of all kinds, i believe.
So EFT should be quite rapid, at working through the various layers.
Is you haven't seen any good videos on EFT, I recommend the one with the lady who has a blood disorder and is really, really tired. It's fun, and only takes about eight minutes to watch. (google youtube+EFT+blood and it should pop up) It should be clear from the video that it's the vocalizing of 'what's going on', in a very open
(read: self-reflectively honest) way that is what makes EFT work so fast.
best wishes,
hope you (and others) enjoy
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I found a self questionnaire which anyone here can try...
http://www.something-fishy.org/isf/questionnaire.php
I did it and I was OK.
I also found a video on Youtube which is interesting, and the lady speaking seems to have lots of personal experience, going by her other videos.
The Ten Most Common Misconceptions About E.D.'s
Hope this is useful to someone.
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This is a reply to # 1,300,315Chiron, I appreciate your idea about EFT. Actually I heard about it but just did not have a close look at it. May be it could help me. I will try!… As for that video I will look at it but within couple of days. The thing is my Internet at home is very slow and I just cannot watch any videos from the net. Today at work at the end of the shift I watched at Youtube some videos about anorexia. SAD picture. I wish I could help some people to overcome it.. To talk sense to him. Thanks to God my case is not that bad but still I need to take care of it. Now try to eat in particular hours and chew very carefully trying to enjoy food. I know I will get there. I ALWAYS believed in it. I think it is all about thinking positive (programming urself in a positive way) and believing in urself. I have both of it:))
Trying:))))))))))
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Hi Nadia,
You certainly have a right to choose your own path to healing. I don't know your personal problems or situation so I am not giving advice. Maybe for you it is the best thing. I just wanted you to know that I do not believe that a person has to be free of problems including eating disorders before they fast. I agree that fasting is not a quick fix for everything including most things. As a committed Christian I believe fasting WITH prayer is an awesome and effective way to solve personal problems and to be delivered from addictions and disorders. This would include problems of all kinds even those not necessarily food or health related. I am talking about anything and everything including relationships with people and financial problems. I doubt that fasting by itself would do anyone much good in many areas of life. I don't know what your spiritual beliefs are so I just want to say that I believe you definitely have a right to your own spiritual beliefs. It is very difficult if not impossible to separate our spiritual beliefs from our beliefs about anything else. When I joined this forum I was looking for fasting support. Although I did get that I had to also put up with people trying to push EFT on me. EFT does not mix with my spiritual beliefs. I did not feel right about it and the more I took it to the Lord in prayer the more I felt it was of the occult. I did a goggle search and I found that there were Christian web sites that were also pushing it. I knew better than to take the word of a Christian web site or even a Christian minister or leader. You see I had been deceived for years by Christian leaders and I now know most of them are blind guides. I even spent many years of my life as an agnostic as I was so disillusioned by them they drove me to it. It is so sad because when I was really good at fasting many years ago I was an agnostic. I think about how I could have been praying during this fasting time. I think about what could have been accomplished because I now know the atomic power with God that fasting with prayer brings. Again, I want to say that you have a right to your own decisions and spiritual beliefs. If you ever do fast again, may I just suggest that you at least ask God to show you the truth about spiritual things. Actually, you don't even have to be fasting to ask him that, however, it is a great time to ask since it is much easier to get prayers answered during a fast. I have found that it is much better to go to Him directly and read His word if you really want the truth, rather than to go to religious leaders who, it seems, are mostly a bunch of deceived people themselves. Yes, even that was prophesied in the Bible. I wish you the best.
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This is a reply to # 1,300,527with all due respect rainy day, your methods do not seem to have resolved your eating problems, you just seem to be going around in circles.
3rd july 2008... your first post...
I am a glutton to the highest degree. Do you think there is any help here for me? Please don't suggest other methods. I have been there and done that and they have all failed me
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4th july... incharge advised you...
"Please don't suggest other methods. I have been there and done that and they have all failed me."
Not sure what other methods you refer to, but this type of behavior usually has roots in some emotional issues that need to be cleared. Being gluttonous makes you feel good at the time you are doing it, then has the opposite effect when you realize you have acted that way, and it hasn't helped after all. Then you feel worse about it than you did before.
Even though you don't want other suggestions, and have zeroed in on fasting as the way to go I have to tell you that there's a good chance that after the fast because you haven't cleared what ever the issue is, that you will revert back to gluttonous eating.
So, I suggest EFT.
http://tinyurl.com/7dv9d
It works for many problems such as yours, and worse.
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i'll bet you have never tried eft. but you replied...
Thank you for your interest in me, however, I am not so eager that I would try anything someone puts in front of me. I have learned not to do that anymore as much of it has been a waste of time for me in the past. I have to be honest; I have no faith in your EFT.
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1208321#i
incharge was right though. on 13 august you said...
I have a food addiction
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I am hoping to fast for five days soon. That will be a breakthrough for me as I have not been able to get past four days now for several years
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When I went on the 20 dayer I had days where I ached all over and felt sick as a dog. I went through several of those healing crises and came out of them all feeling great
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1295934#i
but that 20 day fast was several years ago, and going back to your post on 4 august, perhaps you had forgotten, but let me remind you...
After my approximately 20 day fast I did gain all the weight back and a lot more. I did many, many seven day fasts and I was able to return to my old bad eating habits and still be able to maintain my weight. I would gain a little after the fast from what I had lost but I did not end up fatter than what was my usual. After my twenty day fast I was in a state where I felt hungry all the time except for a short period after eating. This is not something I experienced on my seven day fasts. Even after I got over being hungry constantly I still could not eat normal, what was normal for me that is, without gaining weight. The seven day fasts did not leave me grossly obese like the twenty day fast did. I really felt it ruined me for years.
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personally I think incharge was right. eft can help people with eating disorders. now you are telling people that eft is "occult"? excuse me????
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Thank you for your reply and concern. When I fasted many years ago I was an agnostic and was not seeking God. I did not have the weight problem that I do today. I also was not as toxic. When I fasted for the 20 days I did everything all wrong during the re feeding. I was an agnostic at this time and was very ignorant on how to fast properly. Because I gained a lot of weight after my 20 day fast and could not seem to control it, I stopped fasting for years. I was afraid if I continued to fast my weight problem would get worse and I did not know who to believe. There were those that told me that I was ruining my health by fasting and that my muscles including my heart was being eaten up by it. Now I know all that is not true. When I finally realized that there is a God, I came back to the Lord a mess. I realized that fasting has got to be a good thing too as it is in the Bible. I started doing research on it and now I am really convinced. The problem is now it is much harder for me to fast. I think because I am older, heavier and more toxic. I had to start all over again training my body to fast. The day I joined this forum I was very mad at myself for breaking a fast with prayer earlier than I had planned. I had a major problem that I needed to have resolved and that is why I was fasting and praying. Not only did I break the fast early, but I started binge eating which really made me mad at myself. So, I called myself a glutton to the highest degree. I don't often binge eat to that degree but it was probably due to the emotional problem that I was going through at the time that caused it. I needed to hear from God and didn't think I had a chance after that mess up. Boy, was I wrong. In His great mercy He answered my prayer in a BIG way and completely resolved the problem which was a major, major one and let me add that He did it very quickly. The day I joined the form I thought that I needed to fast desperately to hear from God and I thought the support may help me since I felt that I failed the fast. As it turned out God honored even the short fast and answered my prayer. I definitely don't feel like I am going in circles. I have made a lot of progress. God is not one to hand things out on a silver platter as the devil is. It is a battle and a struggle and God makes me fight hard for some things. So, I will not be too concerned if someone gets there before me. I just want to get where God wants me to go and I want to get there his way. I know He wants me to fast and I am working on it. I may be slow as a turtle with all my imperfections, but I plan to keep going in the right direction. Yes, I do have a food addiction and I am not totally delivered yet, but I am doing much better. I hope this clears up some of the confusion. You will need to see my later years as a restart in order to understand. When I spoke of the 7 day fasts and the 20 day fast that was years ago when I was an agnostic. Thanks for all your hard work on the post. Thanks for expressing your true feelings.
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This is a reply to # 1,300,603"It is a battle and a struggle and God makes me fight hard for some things."
Rainy,
This is actually one of my problems that I have to keep reminding myself isn't true. God doesn't make you fight for anything, He simply asks us to LET GO and give Him ALL of our troubles so that He can deal with them for us. I have found from experience that the more I look to Jesus instead of focusing on my problems, the more my problems slowly fade away.
(Underlines added by me.)
John 15:5 (Jesus speaking)
"I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing."
Matthew 19:26
Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
Fasting, even for one day, is a helpful tool to allow yourself to focus completely on God, but it ultimately isn't the answer. It is only one of the many things that points to the Answer. Rainy, all of Christians struggle, but it isn't because God asks or wants us to, it is because of our own stubbornness in trying to work out our problems with our own strength. Once you are able to fully rest in Christ, all of the rest starts to fall into place. Oh if only we humans could just learn to let go! :)
I apologize if this post offends anyone, it is only directed to Rainy Day and any other Christian who may be encouraged by it.
Wendy
P.S. I'm not interested in using EFT either, Rainy. I believe God should be turned to first and foremost for any problem, especially emotional, and not a practice that in my opinion isn't Biblical. I don't believe in so-called "energy meridians", but whatever reason EFT works for some people, I already have my cure-all, Jesus Christ.- Re: I am NOT fasting anymore until.. UserX
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Wendy,
I certainly agree 100% with your post. I may not have expressed myself well in my post, but what you said is definitely true. Bottom line on EFT is I know God does not want me to touch it so I don't. I have asked Him about it and His answer to me is very clear and for the same reasons that you expressed in your post. Also, I have major concerns about it being of the occult. Yes, I believe that EFT works, but I am not willing to pay the price for the use of it. If others want to use it I feel that is their business. We all have a right to our own beliefs and to make our own decisions. If people want to continue to push this on me I know this will be a waste of their time as I am not at all confused or doubting what my God wants me to do in this matter.
I am also not confused about whether I should fast or not. God is very clear with me that He does want me to fast. There are those on the forum that think I should not fast but should turn to EFT instead. This is not much support for where I know I need to go. I have learned a lot from the forum and I am thankful for the support that I have gotten but I have to be honest, I sometimes wonder if I should be seeking support from an environment like this with beliefs of some that are so contrary to mine.
I think that you would have to agree that we are in a battle and I agree that we do need to learn to give the battle to the Lord. The battle is the Lord's. I am working on that too. The Bible says that the violent take the kingdom of God by force so we do have to do our part. We do have to use our weapons which are not carnal. One of the weapons is fasting with prayer. Yes, as you said it is just one tool, but you will have to admit that it is a very powerful one. We cannot be lazy about it or we will never get there. I agree my choice of words was bad. We should let the Lord fight our battles for us, but in order to do that we have to obey Him and do what He wants. We have to use those spiritual weapons. You will have to agree that takes effort on our part. Thank you for your post.
Rainy
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This is a reply to # 1,300,527Hi Rainy,
As I have mentioned in my prior post I have been trying to fast on a daily basis (with a few exceptions) for more than 10 years. Instead of coming to the point that I had an eating disorder for all that time and take baby steps to recovering. Instead I thought fasting could cure EVERYTHING. It is NOT. Especially when a person suffers from eating and compulsive disorder and, as a result, after even short fasts has a tendency to eat everything within their site and occasionally to purge. I know what I am talking about. Ok, in MY own case I needed to sort out this issue BEFORE all kind of fasts.
I believe in God too. I am Orthodox. I do believe in prayers and.. God helps those who help themselves. But in this particular case I FIRMLY BELIEVE that an eating disorder SHOULD be sorted out BEFORE the fast. Anyway, thank you very much for ur reply and sharing ur own opinion with me, Rainy. :)
Nadia
Ps: I also hope u will sort ur eating disorder soon. Just please do not go to extreems. Believe me life is NOT all about fasting:) x
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Hi Nadia,
I certainly do not want to discourage you from doing what you feel is right for you. I do not know your situation like you do and I can tell from the post that you do not know mine. I just wanted to say that my belief is GOD HELPS THOSE WHO CANNOT HELP THEMSELVES and He has certainly done that in my life over and over again. Thanks for responding. I wish you the best.
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This is a reply to # 1,300,920Rainy,
There is no 'situation' in my case or it is very simple - I have eating disorder (without going into details) but my case is NOT that bad at all. It is curable - BY ME.
And God could help me if I HELP MYSELF. I am not going to go with a flow and just accept everything without fighting for what is really matters to me. God DEFINITELY helps those ones who helps THEMSELVES. I know it from my own experience (and I do not mean my eating habits now). If u go with a flow and blindly accept what is on ur way - there is no guarantee that u will be where u are hoping to be. Make sense?
Recently I have come across one website called anamiafight.weebly.com
Interesting or better to say sickening in a way. 'Good' welcome from the start: This site is designed purely for those already suffering with an ED. I would not recommend this to anyone who is not already suffering. Therefore, if you do not have ana or mia, I ask you to leave now.
Then a mixture of everything goes: desire to help --> desire 'to kill'--> again desire to 'kill' --> pretending to help....
then some 'smart' thinspiration' of very skinny people - 'BEAUTY'!...
some quotes -
Starvation is control, control is tough. Bones are beautiful, when skinny just isn't enough.
Anorexia is like a game; you play, you win, & then it's over… or you keep playing till you loose.
You cannot eat it all and still be thin... (so why not to eat a lot of healthy food and still look and feel great, I ask?)
Better dead than fed
I stare at her ribs that show through the spandex. Her little legs are working. She's going somewhere.
Say it NOW and say it LOUD, I'm ANEREXIC and I'm PROUD! (??????????????????)
http://anamiafight.weebly.com/quotes.html
Or this one.. 'smart' website gives some tricks and tips how to hurt urself quicker and surely:
* Walk to a store and try on clothes that are too tight or get some magazines with models in them and look at them
* Squeeze your butt cheeks together and look at them in the mirror or feel them
* Smoke a cigarette (or two or three)
* Wear a rubberband around your wrist- snap it every time you think about eating something
* Punch yourself in the stomach
* The busy trick, stay at the computer or in another room, have someone make food for you, put it in a plastic bag and bring it out 15 minutes later, dispose of the bag asap
* Look up pro-ana sites or go to pro-ana chat
* Watch a movie with thin people in it or scan the TV channels for thin people
* Think of something disgusting, like maggots on roadkill
* The opaque glass trick- this is when you’re around people and have to eat, be careful with this one, take a bite, chew it, and spit it into the glass so it looks like you’re taking a sip of something-practice this one before doing it in front of anyone
* Go into the kitchen a lot and take a lot of time nibbling-people will think you’re always eating.
* Put on tight pants and take off your shirt-look in the mirror
* Masturbate-kills time, calories, hunger, and takes your mind off of things.
* Shave your legs
* weigh yourself
* Brush your teeth
* Spin around and around in circles, it will make you too dizzy and nauseous to eat
* Drink water, water, water, before meals, after meals, during meals, when meals won’t be happening, all the TIME
*Focus on enjoying the hunger, it means you’re succeeding
http://proanatrick.com/category/pro-ana-tips-and-tricks/
Is it not sickening??? Does that website really help people or just help them to meet God quicker than they suppose to?
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This is a reply to # 1,300,967Nadia,
If you can help yourself, great. Go for it. I believe we should do that if we are able. For those of us who cannot help ourselves God is more than willing to help us if we would just allow Him. So, if you ever get to a point where you feel that you are just not able any longer just call on Him. He really does love you with an unconditional love.
The people that you described in your post are starving and not fasting. God does not call us to starve. If you identify with these people even in a small way I can certainly understand why you would not want to fast. I can certainly understand why God would not call you to fast.
I honestly do not identify with any of that and I really don't feel that I have an eating disorder any worse than anyone else on this forum who is trying to lose some weight. I know that I am not anorexic or bulimic. I don't suppose there is a lot of support for me on this forum anymore because I do not chose the path of ETF. One of the other posters on this thread basically told me that I would just gain all of my weight back again without it. I am sure that is what he and a lot of other posters on this forum would want. That is how much they think of EFT. This forum is now more a support forum for Water Fasting with EFT than a support forum for water fasting.
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Rainy Day,
This isn't an EFT forum but it works for many people including myself and it would be a bad thing if we didn't mention it.
EFT is not the work of the devil (ya I said it ... the DEVIL!!!!!!)
You don't want EFT pushed on you but a lot of people here don't want your god shoved down their throat either. Why don't you give god the day off!
~ Loosie ~
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This is a reply to # 1,301,172And this is not turning into an EFT forum either. Quite often people recommend liver flush, master cleanse and other things, as people probably suggest Water Fasting on other forums.
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This is a reply to # 1,301,193I don't understand the silver platter thing.
I agree it's not an EFT forum, but it's also not a god forum either, and the god discussions far outweigh the EFT discussions. So my point was that Rainy Day should put up with people's beliefs if she always goes on and on about her own.
Tolerance and all ....
~ Loosie ~
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I was referring to Rainy's comments "God is not one to hand things out on a silver platter as the devil is.", the other bit was in response to Rainy's comment that this is becoming an EFT forum. Sorry both for the confusion, perhaps I should have posted directly to the messages, but seeing your fluffy devil icon (is that what it is?) did make me giggle a little and want to respond.- Edited #98566
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Okay I see now. I think I completely misread your message. That happens some times on this forum. Yes it's a fluffy devil. It was appropriate for the bar brawl era but I haven't had time to change it yet.
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