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Re: huge ascaris problem,help... xrayu
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This is a reply to # 1,262,986clay doesn't do the trick.However, I do take sonnes # 7 (bet clay)after diatomacious earth, works good to keep their waste products from recirculating. rubbing fully ozonated oil on your skin where you feel them move works to pursuade them into intestine, but they come back out. At least they get poisoned for a short time. I want try and bait them with something sweet, now that my intestine is toxic for them, just not sure what type of bait to use and when? Before ozo oil and l- cystein? or before herbs? I on third week of ozo mop up they moving alot and laying eggs constantly.- Re: huge ascaris problem,help... #102879
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,262,992Okay, thanks. I didn't really think the clay sounded like it would work but glad to get an answer on that so I don't waste my time with it. How do you get ozonated oil? None of the local health stores around here seem to carry it. Do you have to make your own? If so do you have to purchase a machine or something? Most people say take the meds or herbs first then eat or take them along with the meal, maybe they will be so hungry they will eat the sweets along with the meds. But maybe you are right and they don't eat it because it has the poison in it. Maybe mix posion with the sweet stuff?
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This is a reply to # 1,263,171I think the meds will intoxicate them, If they are in intestine the right meds will toxify them. The sweets are used as a lure to get the worms that have migrated back in intesine where they can be killed more easily. If you have many scattered Ascaris throught body as I do fully ozonated olive oil on skin in combonation w sweets as a lure works to bring them to there home. You can buy the oil at ozonatedoilsonline.com
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This is a reply to # 1,262,541Julie, How much honey should i take to bait ascaris. Today I took ozo oil and l-cysteine and herbs and felt them leave intestine then 15 to 20 min later I ingested a drop of honey and they went for it. ten min later they migrated back to my feet, chest, neck, and feet, and groin. I dont want to feed them too much, might make them stronger, also dont want candida to get worse. Would agave nectar work? Can anyone that has been throuh this reccomend a dosage for the honey lure? I think the fact that I have not eaten any sugars and very low carbs for months now. The only fruit I eat is pineapple and an occasional fig.It seems makes worm react w small amount of honey, maybe three drops ? A teaspoon seems like too much- Re: huge ascaris problem,help...EDIT #87980
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This is a reply to # 1,263,505I just re-read everything. TAKE A LOT of honey or sugar- I'd try a tablespoon, wait 15 minute, do another tablespoon, then 15 minutes, take the herbs. I would try mixing the ozonated olive oil with honey. Take as much honey as you need as often as you need to keep the worms where YOU want them. Are you also doing CoQ10?
I have had good luck with Bentonite clay, but it has to be taken with a heavy duty herb program, and a colon cleanser, keep that for after doing what you are doing now. If I were you I would wait on the bentonite, it's tricky to use. You sound stressed enough, but I've had good luck with it.
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You are doing it backwards. Take the honey first, wait about 1/2 an hour, and then take the worm killer. I actually gained weight deworming. As far as candida, don't worry so much about that. Most of the herbs that are anti parasitic are also anti fungal. If you keep at the natural medicine approach (even if you do occasionaly forays into meds) you will also kill off the candida. Unfortunately, when the worms die, they contain candida, virus and bacteria, I usually get a candida outbreak after I get a bunch of dead worms.
I did the candida diet for years, and it didn't do a darn thing, getting rid of the worms got rid of the candida as a major issue.
The other thing you can do for candida, which is the BOMB at killing it off, and the worms don't like either, is a salt water flush. You drink a about a tsp or more of natural salt in water, at sunrise, (use Redmonds or bake is so it doesn't contain molds from bird poop) and keep drinking liquid. You wind up with yellow runny turds that smell like yeast, and it cleans you out from the yeast.
Worms like sugar, and they like fat, and they like grease. If they don't get what they want in your intestines, and your intestines become toxic, they will move elsewhere. Humaworm/zapper is very good for getting rid of worms that have moved out of your intestines. It's harder to kill them when they start wandering around.
But they are designed to live inside your intestines, if you give them a good reason to stay, like easy food, they will stay put.
Think about catching a mouse, you don't expect them to walk into a trap if they have no incentive to do so. And no, forget the agave juice, if you can bring yourself to do it, something like straight jelly works the best. As you really clean up, the yeast will also go. You will actually have an immune system that works, and isn't turned off by whatever the worms do to shut it off. There are some autoimmune diseases that respond to people being given delibreate tape worm infections, the critters do shut down your immune response, and for some conditions, that is useful.
A lot of this is by guess and by golly, if you are getting results, keep at it. It sucks, but once you do the big deworm, you will never have to do it again, maitenence deworming is much much easier, and you will feel very much better than you do now.
Also, don't sit around, the more exercize you do and get while you are deworming the better the worm kills, don't know why, but I've found that to be true as well. Also adrenelyn rushes seem to produce pretty good results. Adrenealy seems to override whatever the worms do to fool your immune system that they aren't there.
So ideal worm kill day:
Breakfast at McDonalds, the sweeter and greasier the better, take your stuff about 20 minutes later, then go ride a roller coaster and walk around an amusement park.
Lunch, same pattern, dinner, same thing.
Disgusting, I know, and I'm not seriously suggesting that you become a junk food junkie, because that will destroy you in other ways, but think about what a worm needs, and trap it. Think about how the worm operates, and get around what it does to you to lull your body into compliance.
Guess what? I'm done with the candida along with the worms. If I get some, because something hatched, and I've killed it, it goes away in about two weeks if I do nothing at all. Garlic is a wonderful anti worm herb and it kills fungus on contact. There is a reason it was used for all those years to repell vampires.
Julie
More edit, don't forget to eat anti worm food, carrots, pumkin seed, pineapple, any veggie that is orange or yellow. Things like collard greens, & mustard greens mess them up because they tangle up in the stuff, and you can expell them that way. Carrot juice is wonderful, if you can do it drink mix carrot and pinapple, if you can stand the taste add a clove of garlic. (I did that ONCE, i didn't try it twice.)
Spicy hot pepper, habaneros, cayenne, the hotter the better also kill worms. Ginger is another one, yeast doesn't like it either. Cloves are great, think hot sezchwan food, cajun food, mexican food, there is a reason for all of those hot sauces besides insanity.- Re: huge ascaris problem,help...EDIT #124374
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This is a reply to # 1,263,830I realize that this thread is really old, but I just wanted to say a HUGE thank you to those of you that have posted in here. It's helped me TREMENDOUSLY to understand what is going on with me and realize that I'm not as much of a looney bin as the doctors I've been seeing have led me to believe.
I'll start with a little bit of background and hopefully someone can shed some light on my situation.
I've dealt with a yeast issue all my life and after countless Antibiotics to treat it, diagnostics that tell me I'm as good as Grade A meat and doctors telling me that nothing is wrong with me while I'm dealing with so many debilitating symptoms... well, I said "Enough!" a couple of years ago. It's been a long process doing this on my own because no one wants to really listen or they make me out to be crazy, which I'm not. I did a lot of digging and researching a while back to understand what my issue was and realized that I had candidiasis, alongside of chronic fatigue, PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome), chronic tonsillitis, anxiety and depression, etc. Doctors recommended surgery and more Antibiotics , even some that I realized later on would have a fatal effect... and I knew deep down that if I took any more of these medications that I would die. I decided a while ago that there was something unbelievably wrong with our current health system and I was no longer going to subject my body to treatment that seemed like it was made to kill instead of to heal and let live.
My journey into homeopathy began not long after I went to see the psychologist that diagnosed me with anxiety and depression. She was a holistic practitioner, recommended to me by my co-worker, and I was so thankful to meet her because she helped me to discover "energy medicine". And I'll never forget the tea she had me to drink and the exercises we did that let me have one of the best bowel movements (I was kinda constipated at that time) I've ever had.
I went out and got more tea after that (not the same one she gave me)- one I would really recommend to others: Chai Spice tea by Stash (decaf). That made me pass things I had never seen before.. what looked like red blood flukes and little green balls (I assumed they were eggs) that were a little larger than the size of a pea and kind of a light sage green. I know it's from a parasite, but I have no idea what parasite would produce those kinds of eggs... I guess that's my next discovery I have to make.
Jumping back to a year ago, I started a cleanse with "Colonix" by Dr. Natura back in January of 2009 after going through all sorts of mood swings and experimenting with different foods and exercises to see if I could rid myself of my problems as naturally as possible. I felt FANTASTIC for the first month as I did everything I was supposed to, except I kept eating a lot of wheat bread. When it came time to do the second month of cleansing for the toxinout part, I made it through the first few days and then got DEATHLY ill. So sick I was running a fever of 103, with a UTI. I ended up doing cold compresses and used AZO's cranberry probiotics which helped rid me of my symptoms, although not automatically. I had to stop the cleanse then because I was afraid it was going to kill me. Right after I did, I went through a very bad bingeing period for about a week, eating way too much, lots of sugars and salt, and had more mood swings.
I felt the best when I ate carrots. I would eat so much of them I started to smell like a carrot (better than smelling like yeast). Over the summer, I tried the colonix cleanse again but had to stop due to finances and other things. I moved towards the end of November and tried the cleanse again towards the first part of December and everything was going fine, except for the fact that I wasn't on a strict diet but was eating unhealthy foods. During Christmas I started noticing things, movements in different areas of my body (legs, feet, stomach, etc... and eventually in my brain. Then I started feeling something (felt like a worm or parasite of some sort) that would sit right under my eye, closest to my nose. Then I'd feel movement and itchiness in my ears, in my nose, on my head, my chest, back, etc. It got to the point where it was unacceptable, so I ordered Dr. Hulda Clark 's 20 day parasite program (with Black-Walnut hull tincture, cloves, Wormwood and ascorbic acid). I did everything I was supposed to do in the first 5 days, but it made me VERY constipated. Within that time period I noticed my bum getting itchy at night. So I stopped it right away and went back to the colonix cleanse this last Saturday 1/9/10. On Sunday, the itching progressed and when I took a closer look I realized I had pinworms!!
Now, I've been healthy all my life and never had this issue, so it freaked me out tremendously. I ended up digging all over the internet for every possible thing I could find on it and how to treat it naturally. Got some Reese's pinworm OTC meds and took that Sunday night and the reaction I had scared the crap out of me. I had a white worm come out of the tear duct of my right eye and what seemed like some coming out of my face. WIthin an 18 hour period I had taken 5 showers, and done countless loads of laundry. Ended up going to the doctor on Monday and I had to ASK him to prescribe me Vermox. When I took it, it worked within about a half hour, but with more horrendous results...**WARNING: VERY GRAPHIC** I had white worms coming out of the back of my mouth (my uvula, the top of my mouth, my gums and my tonsils). I even had one that decided it was going to commit suicide and popped out of my neck like a giant pimple. It scared the crap out of me again (now I'm totally traumatized), and my first reaction was to flush, so I drank some water. That wasn't helping, so I steeped a pot of the chai spice tea and drank that. Ended up gargling it for about a half hour or so. I even called the pharmacist and told him about my reaction and all he could say was that he was surprised it worked so fast for me. I ended up calling my doc and he told me to go to the ER.
By this time I was so disgusted with myself that I really didn't even want to set foot in public, let alone go to the ER. So I waited it out to see what would happen... The tea did wonders to clear up, but it left burn marks where it had scalded the worms on my skin. Nothing doing, I finally went to the ER Monday evening and prayed like the dickens while I was there. The doctor looked me over, asked me what I had done two months ago- not eating raw meat, never travelled outside of the country... but I did move 2 months ago. Could have picked up the pinworms anywhere while I was moving. They did an xray of my stomach and it came back fine. Gave me atarax to calm my nerves (thank god). She gave me a stronger prescription for the Vermox - to take it 2x per day, twice a day. The second dose I took Monday night and I noticed the wriggling of some worm in my nasal cavity (couldn't see it though).. which I read someone else in this thread had happen to them after 5 days of the Vermox.
Went to stay with my family Monday night for a decent rest and some comfort, which helped greatly. That night I had coleslaw, pulled bbq pork and some sort of squash pasta. After I took my dose of vermox with that meal and went to bed, it wasn't long til I noticed movement in my stomach- seemed like thousands of worms were feeding (I still don't know if that was a good thing or not).
The next morning, I was given some "slimming green tea" by my mother, steeped it really dark and finally had a very small BM. And I guess the positive in this is that my family ended up with a super clean room and bathroom done by yours truly!! My stomach felt tight though and didn't have much of an appetite and was not very thirsty at all that day, so I went and walked around alot, which helped, but also made me realize that I had very small hemorrhoids.
Came back home, had a decent meal and drank a ton of water and some tea and felt much better. Have been munching on dried cranberries, almonds and had some Indian food (dunghri mutter) which I think really helped because I had several more BMs yesterday and some great ones today. Have noticed other things in my stool so it seems like I'm expelling them and the pinworms are clearing, but I still notice things going on. I read this thread all the way through last night and decided that Geritol had some great ideas and that I was going to put them to use.
This morning my tactic was using popcorn, some caramelized apples and dried cranberries again, with just water. I ate slow and took the vermox just before I ate the last apple. I haven't had any reactions like my initial one to the vermox since.. *crosses fingers* so I'm hoping it's working, but I'm worried I'm just making them mad. I had some slimming tea about 10 minutes after all of that, which helped some as well. And I'm just drinking water. Lunch will be a garlic clove, some flax seed oil and lord knows what else. I'm debating on doing humaworm, but I'm afraid of another scattering. And I definitely want to get back on the colonix, but I'm afraid that will put me in the same predicament all over again. I'm doing my darndest to keep from reinfection right now, but more than anything I just want to be rid of all this junk. It's taken up enough of my life and enough of "me".
If anyone has suggestions or a better treatment route for this circumstance, please let me know. I can't tell you all just how relieved I am to find people that are going through similar issues... I don't feel so alone and I feel like I have a better idea of how to handle my situation so I can deal with it in it's totality.
Thank you!!!
Oh, and for some of you suffering from candida, this is a great website:
http://www.yeastconnection.com/
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Xrayu,
In addition to herbal treatment, there are some acupuncture/bleeding/moxa/cupping techniques that are very helpful in cases of roundworm. I have only recently begun such treatment, so it is too early to tell of its ultimate effectiveness; however, so far it has been really effective in opening and clearing the cecum, pacifying my emotions, and opening up the breathing.
The following protocols are not fully understandable to laypeople like me; however, any trained acupuncturist will comprehend them even if they are not very experienced with them. I include them as a reference that can be offered to an acupuncturist or doctor of TCM as you negotiate your treatment. Unlike herbs, these treatments are not something parasites will develop resistance to.
Not all acupuncturists will perform these treatments. The needling in protocol #1 is very labor intensive. Here in the US, moxa and cupping are not done all that often; bleeding is done almost never.
Be forewarned! The bleeding treatment is not for sissies, but it really helps.
Please consider these methods, as they are backed by 4000+ years of medical knowledge and experience.
With wisdom and diligence, parasite problems can be overcome. May your health improve with each passing day!
The following passages are from volume 2, pp. 119-123 of Sticking to the Point: A Rational Methodology for the Step by Step Formulation & Administration of an Acupuncture Treatment
By Bob Flaws
Published by Blue Poppy Enterprises, Inc., 1998
Formulas which transform parasites
1. Si Feng quiet roundworms formula
Source: Xian Dai Zhen Jiu Yi An Xuan (A Selection of Modern Acupuncture & Moxibustion Case Histories)
Indications: Parasite accumulation abdominal pain, upper abdominal pain which is difficult to bear and which may reach the upper back and rib-sides, vomiting of food mixed with clear water, no thought for eating and drinking, oral thirst, constipation, yellow urination, and a deep, rapid pulse
Treatment principles: Free the flow of and regulate the abdominal qi, quiet roundworms and stop pain
Rx: Si Feng (M-UE-9), Nei Guan (Per 6), Zhong Wan (CV 12), Zu San Li (St 36), Yang Ling Quan (GB 34), Ling Tai (GV 10), Du Shu (Bl 16)
Method of use: Use a three-edged needle to bleed the Si Feng points and press out a yellow-white, sticky fluid. Then needle Nei Guan, Zu San Li, Yang Ling Quan, and Ling Tai using even supplementing / even draining technique. Retain the needles for one hour, moving the needles one time each five minutes. Use warm needle method on Zhong Wan 3-5 times and retain that needle for one hour. Then do cupping on Du Shu.
Formula explanation: Parasite pain is categorized as liver-stomach qi pain. It is mostly due to eating and drinking unclean things. The viscera and bowels thus lose their regulation and the qi becomes stagnant with damp obstruction. If depression endures, it transforms into heat which engenders parasites.
Si Feng is a main point for the treatment of gan accumulation and intestinal parasites. It can quiet roundworms and stop pain. It is the ruling point in this formula. Zhong Wan is the mu point of the stomach, while Zu San Li is the lower uniting point of the stomach. These two points can fortify the stomach and move the qi, free the flow of the bowels and stop pain. Nei Guan is the network point of the pericardium and is also one of the eight vessel intersection points, connecting with the yin wei mai. It can loosen the chest and rectify the qi, regulate the stomach and stop pain. Yang Ling Quan is the lower uniting point of the gallbladder. Therefore, it can free the flow of the gallbladder bowel qi, rectify the qi and stop pain. Ling Tai and Du Shu are located in the area of the heart and stomach. They are chosen as local points. They can regulate the heart and stomach qi and blood, rectify the qi and stop pain.
2. Ri Yue roundworm reversal formula
Source: Xian Dai Zhen Jiu Yi An Xuan (A Selection of Modern Acupuncture & Moxibustion Case Histories)
Indications: Roundworm reversal, severe right-sided rib-side pain, vexation and oppression, vomiting, sometimes occurs, sometimes stops, occurrences of pain leading to vomiting, vomiting of roundworms, hand and feet reversal cold, chilly sweat dribbling and dripping, and a slippery, rapid or faint, rapid pulse
Treatment principles: Course and disinhibit the liver and gallbladder, rectify the qi and quiet roundworms
Rx: Ri Yue (GB 24, right), Tai Chong (Liv 3, right), Yang Ling Quan (GB 34, right), Zu San Li (St 36, left)
Added points following the condition: During the remission stage, bleed Si Feng (M-UE-9) and Bai Chong Wu (M-LE-34) with a three-edged needle and press out a yellow-white, sticky fluid. Then needle San Yin Jiao (Sp 6) with supplementing technique in order to fortify the spleen and expel parasites.
Method of use: First needle Yang Ling Quan and Tai Chong. After obtaining the qi, angle the tip of the needle upward. Twisting the needle until the needle sensation is propagated to the area of the disease [sic]. The use even needling technique on Ri Yue, twisting the needle until the needle sensation reaches the area of the heart. One can also use electroacupuncture on each of these points. Retain the needles for 30 minutes.
Formula explanation: Roundworm reversal refers to roundworm parasites in the bile duct. This is mostly due to undisciplined eating and drinking. If roundworms enter the bile duct, they result in liver-gallbladder qi stagnation. This then results in the onset of acute, severe aching and pain. This pain is so severe that the yin and yang qi do not mutually flow together and check one another. Because of this, there is reversal chilling of the four limbs and great sweating which dribbles and drips. Liver-gallbladder qi stagnation is the main pattern of this disease. Therefore, treatment should mainly course the liver and disinhibit the gallbladder.
Within this formula Ri Yue is the mu point of the gallbladder. It is able to free the flow of the gallbladder bowel qi. It is also located in the area of the gallbladder bowel and has a marked action of stopping pain. It is the ruling point of this formula. Yang Ling Quan is the lower uniting point of the gallbladder. When the uniting and mu points are combined, they can course and free the flow of depressed and bound gallbladder qi. Tai Chong is the source point of the liver channel. It can course the liver and resolve depression. Zu San Li is the lower uniting point of the stomach. It can support earth and repress wood, rectify the qi and stop pain.
3) Dispersing foods & transforming parasites formula
Source: Lei Jing Tu Yi (Appended Charts to the Categorized Classic)
Indications: Roundworm and parasite heart pain, yellow face and emaciated body, poor digestion, parasite accumulation abdominal pain, bad breath, constipation, thin, yellow tongue fur, and a deep, rapid pulse
Treatment principles: Fortify and move the spleen and stomach, transform parasites and disperse food
Rx: Ju Que (CV 14), Da Du (Sp 2), Tai Bai (Sp 3), Zu San Li (St 36), Cheng Shan (Bl 57)
Added points following the condition: One can add Si Feng (M-UE-9) to this formula in order to increase and strengthen its power of transforming parasites. Bleed those points with a three-edged needle and press out a yellow-white, sticky fluid.
Method of use: Moxa Ju Que with 7-10 cones. Then needle Da Du, Tai Bai, Zu San Li, and Cheng Shan with draining technique. Retain the needles for 30 minutes.
Formula explanation: Parasite accumulation is mostly due to eating and drinking unclean things. Thus dampness and heat are engendered internally in the spleen and stomach and thus parasites are engendered. Parasite accumulation then obstructs and blocks the qi mechanism and the spleen and stomachs’ [sic] movement and transformation lose their normalcy. Food and drink collect and accumulate and thus the digestion is not good and there is bad breath and constipation. Since the finest essence of food and drink does not enrich and nourish the muscles and flesh, the face is yellow and the body is emaciated. When roundworms and parasites harass and stir upward, there is arching pain in the region of the heart. Therefore, the methods of treating this disease are to fortify and move the spleen and stomach, disperse food and transform parasites.
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This is a reply to # 1,263,587Good point, she may have tape worm, not ascaris. Tape worms bite, round worms wiggle, and they don't hurt your intestines like a tape worm does.
Unfortunatley, you are not the first person here who has had dissemenated worms from the meds. Post's like yours, particularly darius's posts, are why I decided to stay away from the meds, because it's so hard to get a lethal dose, and an incorrect dose seems to have such nasty consequences.
This can be done with herbs, with a lower level of risk, but it's your choice. I support you whatever you do xrayu, and I just hope you kill the little buggers off. Other suggestion, find an alternative med practioner with a rife machine, and use rife. In the mean time, keep zapping.
Julie
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This is a reply to # 1,263,879may you have some peace about this and completely set your mind to positive mode.....meditate deep.....................mind much more powerful than body......
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This is a reply to # 1,263,587Maybe I have Ascaris and tape worm. After5 days of vermox I woke up one morn with huge worm thrashing around in my sinuses then moved to my ear. Now feels like it has imbedded itself in my chest muscles. I think the tape worm hangs out in spleen. When it lays eggs I feel pinching in intesine. Its been three weeks w mop up and still have symptoms: partial intestinal blockages, intense abdominal tension, cloudyness,cant focus, anxiety, no libido, ect. No more bluury vision, and got the worms out of my sinuses, what a relief. Still, sometimes get a few straglers migrate up there when I take herbs or betonite clay. sinus rinse an ozo oil swabed up nose twice a day . I think worms became so resistant when I was taking three lac, an intense probiotic. The vermox probably made things worse as well.Pyrantel pamote din't work. I zap twice a day, no sugar, very low carb diet. Eat lots of fresh garlic, oregano, thyme, rosemary, pineaplle, raw brown rice.Take internal parasite formula which has cloves,b walnut, worm wood, wassabi, milk thistle, digestive enzymes. maybe mop up didnt work because first time I tryed it w coconut oil and l- cystein no results, second time w ozo oil n cysteine.I am taking diatamacious earth helps lil bit, and ordered humaworm. I am so frustratad losing my mind. I work in a hospital,I did three seperate stool tests all negative for parasites. Kaiser Docs trying to get me on Prozac, pissed me off started losing faith in medicine. Fourth test done w doctors data an expensive parasitology lab neg for parasites, losing hope. I can't get kaiser doc to write me a scriipt for prazi. I got a Doc at another hospital to write it for me, but I would havt to pay 400 bucks to fill it.If I can get prazi what are the correct dosages for very resistant heavy worm load? what should I do in so much pain.
My wife and I have experienced scattering over the last 3 weeks presumably from Ascaris (we have seen them as well as several other species) I have been using a TENS electrostim type unit [not just a mere 'zapper'] over the last 2 weeks, in a 4 week herbal regimen. That was the cause of the scattering; I felt them break out when doing intensive electroshock to midsection. So, I lure them back into intestines with raw milk or carbs. Its a tradeoff, as once they get all gorged up on the 'lure' food, they seem to have renewed vigor to continue cruising around.
BTW, might be a good idea NOT to take aspirin, as that might prevent clotting after the burrow in & out.
Alcohol seems to calm them down a lot; not the best approach, but works in emergencies if you get the all riled up. The TENS unit can generate intense pulses, to the point of muscle contraction.
If you have taken Wormwood / walnut they then try to escape the body [just like escaping the intestines]and go hide in the sinuses & cranial cavity, which I find particularly distressing. Cranial occupation feels like a sudden heaviness in the head [after a slow moving ear popping sensation in the neck- cant miss it], followed by a slithering movement where it *should not be*. One time it/they went in between the lobes in the center] In that case, I start with slow pulses on my temples. I have resorted to placing probes in my eye sockets, and also one on roof of mouth, while other probe on top of head, to enhance conduction into the cavity. This approach is a trade off; electroshocking ones brain can't be that good [However, what if they start to feed...?]. I can't recommend shocking one's brain, but I must report that even though one time I accidentally suffered a strong jolt from mouth to top of head, when my stim unit was turned up too high, The central tissues were fatigued for a solid day, but they *are* coming back. So, I have had to herd them out over and over again over the last week or so. An electrical barrier [shock collar]at the neck would be very handy to prevent them roaming there when you sleep. My new regimen is: NO Wormwood or Walnut extract [but taking ground cloves], spend 15 mins slowly clearing head, then apply one pad the the base of the neck in the back, and one pad near the groin, & turn unit up to the point of muscle and organ twitching. Guaranteed kill if you do that for a few hours. Certain frequencies seem to keep them knotted up and its hard for them to move. With vertical electrode orientation, they are not motivated to escape upwards, as they do detect electrical field gradients. They do scatter to the legs & feet, though, but I'll take that any day. If you have not cleared the head, and then you place the electrode at back of the neck, you will drive any stragglers back up. This is definitely a 'hunting' type approach, and aggressive even for me, but I don't want prolonged risk to my brain from shocking or possible feeding. I killed a few in a prolonged 2-3 hour session yesterday as evidenced by my stool. I had already got the biggest one [popped him] when it was traversing my neck. Seems once they have a 'route' established, it is easy for them to continue traversing it. Oh, I could actually hear them with my stethoscope, when they were in by bile ducts.
BTW, one 'parasitologist' I approached for help with this [I thought they were specialists, but no] snidely suggested I needed another kind of doctor, so I have to accept that we are all on our own with this, and a true 'medical' approach has not yet been developed. I find that strange, as they have had LOTS of time to model this. I was willing to pay money too. I expect to kill my stragglers over the next week or so, as I can't wait for them to slowly die off of old age- hence my _aggressive_ approach.
If I had to do this all again, I might get some sort of a shock collar as a barrier in place before taking any drugs or herbs. Maybe get them drunk [they like that] before taking a massive dose in combo with a big dose of laxatives.
I have been cleansing for 7 days using this method.
-upon awakening, drink glass of water with half lemon squeezed.
-20 mins latter drink 2 tbs of apple cider vinegar in glass of water (stops the larva from living in the stomach because greatly increases stomach acid PH levels.
-I would consume no sugars in any form except for pineapple and dietary fibre in very small amounts.
-I take Wormwood and cloves and a very powerful pro-biotic every day.(the stuff i got ain't strong enough clearly(45mg))
-I do still eat chicken but no red meats.
-Alot of carrots, cucumber and leafy greens.
These things are basters that need to go. Cant sleep at night because of constant squirming and pushing out my rectum. Im going to go to my doctor in a couple of days and demand some drugs, not even asking for any tests. I ordered DE food grade online and will take that for the rest of my life- f*** parasites LOL. They are obviously pissed off to migrate to my colon where there is very little for them to eat. Hopefully DE kills these larva basters, because if i go through this again im gona kill myself.
