Stage 5 Kidney Failure... 
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I got stage 5 Kidney failure, eGFR 6, my Creatinine is 8.7 when measured by mg% method or 770 when measured by µmol/L method. My Urea is 37.3 measured (mmol/L). I'm not going to do dialysis, does anyone know what herbs and what exactly i should be taking from the incurable program that can get my creatinine and urea down and get my eGFR above 10%? Like any juices, herbs, medcines or anything, i'm desperate because i got about 8 weeks till they start me on dialysis as the doctor planned, but i don't want to do it, is it too late for me? Do i have to go to do dialysis or do i have no choice? Can herbs and jucies and other therapies from this program help me not to do dialysis? I've been searching around the net for medical alternatives and then a friend told me about this program which cures all diseases and i have faith in it, please help me and tell me what i should be taking or doing, what herbs, juices and therapies i should undertake or if its just too late as i am experinces the symptoms of chronic renal failure like fluid rention up to my knees, fluid in my lungs and breathlessness, anemia with my haemoglobin down, b12 iron and everything down and tremendous weakness as well as no sleep whatsoever at night time, i got to prop my self up with a few pillows to get a few hours of sleep do i have to do dialysis or can these herbs help me prevent it and get my kidneys better?. This help is greatly appreciated. I thankyou so much.
Thanks alot for all your help and God bless,
Jensen.
my email address is: jensen@y7mail.com or jensen.norman1981@gmail.com if anyone has some information that could help me and wants to forward it.
- +edit -Re: Stage 5 Kidney Failure... unyquity
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This is a reply to # 1,216,769Jensen,
Yes, there are herbs that will help you, and YES! if you're willing to do more than just 'take some herbs' there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that you can heal your kidneys (and the rest of you) and never have to deal with a lifetime of dialysis.
You want these four products asap: Dr. Schulze s Kidney Tincture and his Kidney tea Cayenne Tincture & powder and Superfood
You can find them at Schulzes website here:
http://www.herbdoc.com/home_1024x768.asp
DR. Richard Schulze 'S OFFICIAL WEBSITE
Or you can find the equivalent products here:
http://healthfree.com/index.html
Health Freedom Resources
AND you can get the equivalents through Chris here:
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1139029#i
(And I know it's some kind of a crime to say this 'outloud' on a Dr. Schulze Forum , but I don't like his new Superfood. He no longer makes the Superfood that he used when doing all his clinical work (that healed over 9,000 of "incurable diseases"; the only place where you can get his original is from Health Freedom Resources, or from someone like myself that makes/offers his original.
There absolutely are NO "incurable diseases" - the only limit? How much you're willing to learn and what you're willing to do.
Get those products 'in hand' (if I were you, or coaching you personally) I would get AT LEAST two of each of kidney formulas, possibly three of the kidney tinctures.
Optimally, either before you get them or when you get them, get off all solid food and get onto fresh juices. At the minimum, eliminate every food with any potential for a toxin/poison/pesticide - absolutely nothing refined, no White Sugar /flour/table salt, no animal anything (if it ever had a face on it or came from anything that has a face, ditch it); NO transfat or hydrogenated oil (only organic, expeller pressed or non-refined oils).
Take your body weight, divide in two - start drinking that many ounces of pure water daily (distilled or Reverse Osmosis filtered). And start taking the Kidney Tincture and Tea according to directions. In your case, I'm almost positive Dr. Schulze would have had you double or triple the doses - if I were you, that's exactly what I would do.
Also, if you haven't recently done a thorough colon cleanse, that's right up there as a priority. No living organism on the planet can live it can't assimilate food or eliminate waste efficiently. If you haven't ever done a colon cleanse, you can't possibly be assimilating or eliminating as your body should be doing. Read this about that:
http://www.plim.org/drSchulze2001BowelNewsletter.htm
Dr Schulze 2001 Bowel Newsletter
Scan through every link here to find out more:
http://tinyurl.com/5j5gne
(this is search on the word "kidney" at the internet site that has the greatest compilation of Schulzes works online. I didn't have time to search through it for the pertinent ones.
Once you are having 2-3 bowel movements daily (which you can do very quickly with Dr. Schulze s IF#1), you need to starting taking activated charcoal internally (to relieve the burden of detoxing the blood from the kidneys). You should start doing a charcoal poultice OVER the kidneys immediately.
EDIT: Also start castor oil packs over the kidneys IMMEDIATELY. Castor oil has many 'claims to fame' but in a nutshell, a castor oil pack will break up congestion. You can alternate between a nightly castor oil pack and nightly charcoal poultice.
Here's a similar search of the site above, only this time I searched on the world "charcoal" - you'll find every bit of information there you need on how to take it internally and how to make a poultice:
http://tinyurl.com/5w37r8
Take two droppersful of Cayenne tincture 4 times a day (or 1/8 teaspoon of the cayenne powder, working up to 1 teaspoon). This is for circulation.
Take 3-5 raw cloves of garlic daily (whole, chopped, mixed with juice, stuffed into capsules, however you can do it). It must be raw. This is THE strongest antibacterial, antiviral, antifungal and anti parasite in the herbal kingdom. It is never optional when there's ANY chance of infection, and it has a zillion other attributes.
Immediately start doing hot/cold contrast work on your kidneys. Either use hot/cold packs or get in the shower with a hand-held shower and do a couple of minutes of the hottest water you can stand and then a couple of minutes of cold (back and forth between the two) for 7-8 repetitions. This pushes blood to & from the kidneys, causing the healing blood to course throughout and around the kidneys. It is essential to healing them (or any part of the body that's malfunctioning).
For more thorough information, and more details of what it's going to entail, go to the top of any CZ page, click on the Schulze link, and then go to the Incurables Program links.
There's many more things you need to do, but these are a great starting point.
'Sorry I don't have more time, but it's 6:00am here, and I have yet to go to sleep.
Healthiest of blessings -
Unyquity- Re: +edit -Re: Stage 5 Kidney Failur... Appendix
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This is a reply to # 1,216,921Hello.
I wonder why Cayenne powder is recommended cause in most western medicinal sites like Kidneyfailureweb and webmd they say that Cayenne and most hot spices are bad when have low kidney function ? Would be nice to eat ginger and turmeric for example and cinnamon,but those sites do not recomemnd it.
Friendly regards: Dreamer
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Last summer I had bad creatine levels and urea levels as well (200 and 33 respectively). I was very very worried.
My tests are normal now, after eating all fruit for 6 months. What do you do? Pick a single fruit you like and eat it as a meal and eat as much as you want. Then do the same for lunch and dinner. For example, I had plums for breakfast, apples for lunch, oranges for dinner. As much as you want to eat, you shouldn't go hungry.
Like I said, I did that for 6 months but you should feel improvement in a week. I cheated once a week and ate meat (or a "normal" meal with family and friends). But only once a week and I never cheated with snacks, my only snacks were fruit (although, keep snacking to a minimum).
My inspiration was the book "Dying to Get Well" (www.dyingtogetwell.com) and the Barefoot 14-day orange fast (on CZ).
Edit: Apparently a water-only fast is a very bad thing to do at this stage, so although it is a great way to regain health, for your type of health crisis, it isn't good. For more advice on fasting and healing through medical issues, you can consult a professional such as Dr Bass.
http://www.drbass.com/consultation.html
This is obviously a very serious thing for you and I can only relate my own experiences and blood tests to you. I think you should consult a professional such as Dr Bass to be honest, it's not enough just to get advice here. I wish you the best of luck and I pray this works for you. Please let me know if this has helped you, I hope it does.
- Re: Stage 5 Kidney Failure... knowledge seeker
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This is a reply to # 1,217,062thank you for sharing your experiences. I am interested in kidney disease as my mom suffered and recently died form it.
Although I think the incurables program should be done, II do see a basis for your healing.
But before I mention that, I have read generally one should avoid water only fast as they are not thought to be as safe as juice fasting but they are differences of opinions of that.
I have heard several stories of people getting cured just eating a mono-diet of fruit like nothing but grapes and it juices..all kinds of gapes bur only grapes..I remember a story that was kind of famous about someone curing themselves with this earlier in the century and going around the US lecturing...she had come here from some either country,,
But years ago I read some book by Arnold ret who is known kind of famously for sparking interest in naturopathy for the mucusless diet that Dr christopher talks about so much (Christopher trained schulze). here I found the book rational healing and he also has website just goggle his name
http://books.google.com/books?as_auth=Arnold+Ehret
He did experiments using his own body of various diets and controlled cuts when he noticed that the Japanese on a diet o veggies and so forth bled less and seemed to recover faster from battle wounds than the meat eating, alcohol drinking Germans.
He did a typical diet for two years cutting himself and recoding the reaction (pain, pus, infection, rapidness of the scab and so forth once testing all above ground veggies and fruits. The first produced much pus, pain, long healing time etc and the produce diet almost no pain, little bleeding, no ps, rapid healing, could barely see a scar..he began to eat only fruits and above ground veggies and he achieve levels of health he could not believe..the book is fascinating..he said he had more pep them when he was a child, I think on lady who id it her hair turned from grey back to brown and also extreme change mentally if feeling very happy and at peace with little to no tendencies to wards anger etc..I think this is hwy Dr Christopher and Schultze teach if there were no meat eater, wars would decrease. A story of a lady who did it as well was also so interesting ..fruits is a cleanser and veggies are a builder and together they fix the body..many dialysis/kidney patients are diabetics though and need to be cautious of fruits and juices..
this seems to say to me that this is why the diet worked for you..Ehet felt the diet Gd was designed to do was one consisting of above ground veggies and fruits and achieved a level of health he said he never aw in anyone he ever meet. Dang, I bet I could have gotten my mom to do that is she did not have to do all the other stuff...I never thought of it at the time.
huh..interesting..I think if it was me though I would do the incurables cause I know that it has worked on many people buy that is up to Jenson..
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- Re: Stage 5 Kidney Failure... Tigger21
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This is a reply to # 1,216,769Hi
You have a good reply form uniquity there, and nothing wrong with eating fruit as part of a whole progam.
I am picking up what you said about feeling weak and not sleeping etc,.. This is a sign of the level of toxicity in the blood, and the fact that the blood is not being cleaned therefore the blood is trying to deposit waste whereever it can, and right now the blood is loaded and does not know where to put it all.
First thing is to get a load of distilled water to drink. this is a magnet for drawing out toxins as long as having a pee is 'normal' for you. (Schulze has stated this about distilled water many a time.)
Dialsys may make you feel a bit better in the short run. I dont think it is an invasive procedure,(apart from the needle thing) dont think there are drugs involved the last time I read up on this. But like I said it is a short fix and I surprised that they are making you wait 8 weeks - your kidneys could be worse then?
So doing the foundation program plus drinking the kidney drink all the time will give you a start. what level of improvement will be down to you in the end. Schulze has also said about uptting poultices on areas that have problems. you could even make up a clay mixture and put on kidney area over night.
The more liquid you can make your diet for the moment, the easier it will be for your system to try and put its self right.
Hope this helps
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This is a reply to # 1,218,013hi Tiggs.
It is of interest you feel his blood is loaded with toxins..that is why I feel he should immediately get on a herbal blood cleanser..I recommended burdock but also feel parsley root should be taken.
I always heard the best water was steam distilled water but I recently got a message from Dr Mercola saying distilled water is bad for you. Just now looking for this article I saw that Paavo Airola, who taught Schulze,
http://www.google.com/search?q=mercola+distilled&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF...
here is an article saying there is physical evidence that distilled water is inferior but not sure but wanted to bring it to you attention that there might be some concerns
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2002/05/08/distilled-water...
http://www.google.com/search?q=distilled+water+safety&sourceid=navclient-ff&i...
I advised someone going on the incurables to use steam distilled water when making teas as it is empty and pulls more of the pytochemicals to prevent/cure disease from the herb into he tea and then use reverse osmosis for drinking etc. after reading these articles, but just passing this info along.
There is some thought that drinking distilled water when fasting may be hazardous. O do not know the answer as to if it is or not as I always thought it was the best water as I was told that by Tom who posts here(magnetized steam distilled he said, but after seeing these links I am not sure and just thought I would mention it.
No I think Jenson does not want dialysis at all and was told to start earlier..it is not the doctor delaying it.
Yes, the clay poultice might be good (bentonite clay right?), the castor oil, I think Christopher liked the three oil massage...but the clay would draw stuff to the surface..would that be more for cancer or any bad organ..what is it drawing the impurities in the organs..I think my mom spoke of a blockage so that makes me think the cayenne unyquity recommended might be good.
Oh Jenson my mom had lots of fevers..I think this happened somethings when she did good things for a day or two (long as she lasted as she did not want to do the program or change her diet)but maybe it was related to the dialysis or maybe the kidney disease,...but I always told her that was a good sign that her body was Dr Schulze taught was heating up to kill more antigens and pathogens as Dr Schulze taught. He said for every degree your temperature rises it doubles the things like t cells, macrophages and so forth so when it is so if it is 105 temp, your immune system is working 64 times harder so fevers may be a good thing (your body killing off germs) so don't panic.
EDIT..now that I think about it Tom recommended adding some kind of mineral salts (but I forget the name) to the distilled water to remineralize it.
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This is a reply to # 1,218,013hmm I did find this..now I am confuses as to what is best water wise
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This is a reply to # 1,216,769Hello Jensen,
This is your friend, Jane (Abigal) who originally sent you a boatload of info, introduced you to schulze and gave you the link here. Lucille told me you had posted here and I am glad to see you are checking out this extremely helpful website.
I see unyquity confirmed much of what I said and I hope this gives you more hope.
One reason I posted was I wanted to be sure that if Jensen takes the activate charcoal that he does NOT take it when eating, taking herbs, or juices and so forth as charcoal interferes with the abortion of nutrients and also with the pytochemicals from the herbs that are curing disease and he should take at least --what?-- a few hours before and after eating (or drinking superfood/juicers etc) You need the nutrition and charcoal absorbs that and carries it out of the body being of no benefit to you along with the toxins so do just be careful of when you take it in relationship to your consumption of foods/liquids (not referring to water
also be aware that when you are doing the whole incurables program, the intestinal cleanse two already has the activate charcoal in it. I am not sure if it is enough, unyquity, or if h should add more in addition to his intestinal number two formula.
I absolutely believe Jensen should be on the full incurables program and juice fasting, no partial or half measures are sufficient, Jensen, you need to go full tilt
It is human nature to want to get a quick fix..we look for a pill to fix us with drugs right away so too do we hope to find a herb or supplement to fix a lifetime of unhealthy habits and you have to understand, Jensen, that a few great herbs is not enough. It will take dedicated work and many steps but unlike dialysis it is rebuilding your life not just prolonging your life. The reason that the incurable program works to cure ANY disease even ones they have not named yet is by building the body to such a supreme level of health that our self healing bodies heal themselves..it just needs some help from us like stopping bad habits like smoking, junk food and so forth, giving the body great nutrition and oxygen and sun and healthy surroundings and good water exercise and so forth and also removing the toxins built up in all our organs and cells particularly the elimination organs that aid the body in getting the toxins out.
The elimination organs would be the bowels, kidneys, liver and gall bladder, bladder, skin, lungs and improving the bloodstream and immune system to give you a better overview of the purpose of the program but not of what the incurables program. schulze repeatedly stresses every single part of it i important and needed and if you leave just one part out, you might not get well..sometimes people didn't do a part or two and did not get well and when they redid all the parts they did get well, so from the smallest to the biggest each thing he recommends has a purpose.
You need to understand these changes should be permanent..yes later you can eat more foods and maybe go a little less and all, but if you revert back to your previous lifestyle habits, you could relapse and he said if a person relapsed it was much harder to cure them the second time around. But later it will not be so intense to maintain after you are healed..
cont in post that says continued part two)
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Knowledge Seeker,
why are you saying to this guy to have water? if he continues to have alot of water it can cause mass fluid retention, he will have fluid rentention up to his knees in a week's time and if he continues im telling you straight the guy will have fluid rentention in his lungs in 2 weeks and he wont be able to breath, this is because he has stage 5 kidney failure, don't recommend water to him - he should stick on about 4 glasses a day, Jenson if your reading this i think you should take Lasix which will take away those symptoms and bring your weight down, you'll be able to breath better i suspect because of these rotten kidneys your having too much water and bringing a strain on your kidneys, this is therefore causing your breathlessness and your inability to breath at night time will also go, as lasix removes excess fluid rentention, so ask your doc about it because you need a scriipt for it.
email me if you wish.
Bec- I very STRONGLY disagree...Re: Stage... unyquity
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This is a reply to # 1,218,367...and here is why:
http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/water/Water.shtml
Also read: Your Body's Many Cries for Water by Dr. F. Batmanghelidj, MD.
In a nutshell, you will learn that retaining fluid is a major sign of dehydration, and that virtually everything you said is based on allopathic medicine (and they have it ALL backwards). It's a common misconception that one should take a diuretic when retaining water, but this only serves to thicken the blood, narrow & constrict the veins & arteries (causing the organs to be in even more distress), causing the heart to work harder and basically complicating and worsening the very reason that the body started retaining water in the first place.
Of course, this sells a LOT of drugs and once someone starts taking diuretics regularly, they virtually always end up on blood pressure & heart medicine (because when the arteries are narrowed & brittle from dehydration and the blood becomes even THICKER and more sludgy, the blood pressure skyrockets and the heart becomes stressed.
If the body is retaining fluid, we should fix the REASON it's retaining fluid...and you will see in Dr. B's book that almost ALWAYS fluid retention is caused by lack of water/adequate hydration.
We want these kidneys to WORK, not shut down even further! Dr. Schulze s tea & tincture taken as directly (in this case double/triple doses are probably in order) WILL almost certainly cause the kidney to both process the excess fluid AND become stronger and clearer of the almost certain structural blockages that are present.
It's an easy choice - try something that has the potential to heal first? Or try something that assuredly will effect your body adversely first.
Unyquity - Re: Stage 5 Kidney Failure... knowledge seeker
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,218,367I posted this in juicing but am reposting here in the event you do not use lasix. This may help.
Animal studies show, at very high amounts (2 grams per 2.2 pounds of body weight), that dandelion leaves possess diuretic effects that may be comparable to the prescriiption diuretic furosemide (Lasix®).17 Human clinical trials have not been completed to confirm these results.
Also see my other posts for reducing water retention and if following sodibic's advice, see my other posts for things that may help with the things that unyquity says happens with not enough water to perhaps lesson these negative effects.Advertisement
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- I very STRONGLY disagree...Re: Stage... unyquity
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This is a reply to # 1,218,137schulze also often says this..I do not care how sick you are, people sicker than you have done it and gotten well. This confidence comes not from wishful thinking or hoping but from actually seeing people recover time and time again who did the whole program..I think schulze said before that 90% of the people were not wiling to do all that was necessary to save their life...many he kicked out from the first visit.
Attitude and belief are also very important. He says these other things like laugh, help people, love more, relax and people think he is joking but he says no it is all important..even thongs like walking barefoot every day outside. Find out everything he says to do and do it..that stuff costs nothing.
Then in addiction to the complete incurables program, add those things specific to kidney disease like the herbal blood cleansers which are badly needed and the mushrooms that lowered the creatinine in kidney patients and other side things but just a few..not everything at the health food store or health food section of the supermarket..also you need to shop more at health food stores and learn about what good food is. Many things you may think are good actually are not. This takes a long time to learn and we keep learning with time but if you know nothing simply changing to buying all your food at the health food store will automatically give you a far superior diet to that bought at the regular stores.
But it is important that you at least get the intestinal cleanse number one immediately while doing this juice fasting so the toxins can get out better seeing how your kidneys are so bad..as too many toxins being released from the juicing can overwhelm him if his bowels are not working as schulze describes..like be doing the juicing, burdock, intestinal cleanse one, and also things you do not have to wait to order like enemas, cold/hot showers, skin brushing, massage, castor oil packs and so forth right now, then next week when the videos are here for you to watch, gain hope and knowledge from the words of Schulze and hopefully you can put an order in in a few days for all the other herbs you need but order intestinal cleanse one today first..when you get your herbs for the incurables you will know how to do it, be ready and prepared, and be used to being off foods and have your bowels working and then be ready to add the intestinal number 2, the kidney and liver and blood cleansing etc. As soon as you can you can get on the agarigus and cordyceps to get that creatinine level reduced. You should also start the garlic now..raw only..
I am not sure if you understood that what you need is not just adding juices to your diet but taking no food at all ..all you should be doing if you want the miracle you need (as alternative health needs to be comprehensive and intense to cure oneself of killer diseases..as someone said just doing a few things or an herb or two or even the mushrooms I mentioned to you is not enough)..you need all of it..this is why it is important to read the patient handbook and the manual this weekend to see what it is you will be doing as it is a little complicated if you are new to all this..I will help you devise a schedule if you want this..it takes considerable time but if you don't understand it, I will help you..I did these for my mom (but she never did all of it or just did a day or so)
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This is a reply to # 1,224,099I also feel you needs to immediately get an herbal blood cleanser as I mentioned before. I recommended Burdock root tincture --organic (oh and by the way it is far better if the fruits and veggies you are juicing are organic but if you can't get or afford that, get as many as you can and use conventional or better yet from a farmer's market as at least these are fresher and often they use far less chemicals)and seeing the chapter in Dr Christopher's book school of natural healing down the road as I know burdock is a good one as that is what I selected for my mom on kidney disease for other herbal blood cleansers (some are better for the kidneys and some other organ but I know that burdock is one of the best as I researched this during my mothers time on dialysis and when she finally consented to take it shortly before her 9th heart attack killed her, she told me she was stunned as for the first time in two years, she did not get sick after dialysis and she always got deathly sick. I am sure this was the additional blood cleansing and I also had given her parsley root with it. So I recommend these in addition to the incurables program.
Later I may repost some of the info I shared with Jenson earlier in the event anyone else needs it but no time right now.
If Jenson is doing the incurables and taking all those juices, teas, and potassium broth does he need to also drink half his weight in water as this will be a tremendous amount of fluids as there are tons of fluids on the incurables program and his kidneys are very poorly functioning.
Does anyone have an opinion on that?
It was nice you gave these alternate sites that sell his products as that could be needed and a place between buying from herbdoc and making one's own. I checked the first link and the herbs are all wildcrafted or organic which is really good.
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Also be aware if you are on the full incurables program which you absolutely must do as you said you are not doing dialysis and only have 8-10 weeks and the sicker you get the harder the program is going to be to do so immediately order all the herb formulas you need...sell something if you don't have the money or borrow it or charge ti or come up with a way to get it all and start ASAP..nothing is worth more to you and your family than your life..right now be familiarizing yourself with the patient handbook outline of how to do the incurables program and read the manual I sent or start it while waiting for your videos about the program.
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actually edited here..this is only a five minute sample I just realized ..for the full nearly 2 hours go to veoh tv and type in Richard Schulze ..these are the first two of 12 hours and though the other 10 videos are not available but through purchase on ebay/amazon currently, these two provide a wealth of information and you can watch them right away)
these are very important videos of the set so get a feel for the incurables program and the passion of Schulze while waiting for the full set of videos.
Don't want any fear but did want to mention that when I gave my mom cayenne, she said her stomach burned for 2 or 3 days and her doctor (of course) told her to never take it again as well people would have no problem but kidney patients can not process well enough to get it out of the body easily; however, she was on dialysis and Jensen is not and she was in her 70s and Jensen is young, so you may be fine but just wanted to give you the heads up..cayenne is important as for one thing, it is a catalyst herb and it makes any other herbs you take with it more effective as it plows through the possibly sludgy blood so many of us have and gets the nutrients to the cells and organs of the body where they need to be and also helps better removed the waste products.
Interestingly, though, I just realized when I gave her cayenne during those two heart attacks and it stopped it, she did not call me complaining the next day that her stomach burned. Maybe fear was involved the first time or it was something else.
also dr christopher's videos are available by going to goggle videos and typing in dr john christopher
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This is a reply to # 1,224,104Knowledgekeeper!! Tht very honorable your trying to help others after what yu saw your m8m go threw..im definitely trying the burdock and parsley...
tonight im using licorice and parsley till can get ti doctor..the pain in my kidney is barely there now...im only using licorice few days cause it tends to raise blood pressure...I stopped my blood pressure meds for few days to let my kidneys rest...I was peeing so much....thanks for your shar7ng your moms struggle...yu helping her still by help7ng other moms like me- some things that help blood pressure knowledge seeker
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HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE
garlic
hawthorne
ginkgo
mistletoe
exercise (walking in the pool)
cinnamon evening primrose oil caps --2 a day
fruits berries veggies
avoid -sugar fructose
increase grains
reduce salt
fish oil
lipoic acid daily-10-50 mg or 50 mg a week
arjuna (auyededic herb)
coq10
lycopen
(be sure the herbs are not capsules but organic or wild crafted tinctures)
take all these together at the same time--hawthorne Celery turmeric 1/4 - 1 teaspoons to food (or caps I guess), garlic, and almonds 10 with skin
kava kava for stress
chia seeds
vinegar
uric acid can drive kidney or high blood pressure issues --take black cherry juice, sour cherries or celery
beet juice
dark chocolate
cayenne blood pressure equalizer
1/2 onion juice and 1/2 honey
1 tsp cayenne and 1/2 cup luke warm water
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hi well I am so happy it is helping others, recovery29
My mom had asked me to spread the rod about those languishing with kidney disease and how there are few telethons for them when someone at the center died and their loved one came to thank her for being nice to him and he sobbed at her feet..she came home in tears and asked me to do this.
I did not though know how I, one person, could get the word out but this young man came asking my help for kidney disease first on yahoo answers and then here, and it lead to this thread and this even more important one here
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1224263#i
My mom never understood that doctors with chronic diseases do not really often cure them but only control them for a while. To heal one must get to the root cause of a disease and do dietary and lifestyle changes etc. they had told her that taking motrin for Arthritis and injuries she suffered at there hand by defective physical therapy equipments that they ignored despite her saying something was wrong damaged her kidneys and gave her the disease and dialysis in turn destroyed her heart and caused the heart attacks..she had no heart problem in her late 70s before dialysis so though this stuff appeared to help or might have temporarily most medical intervention comes at a price..I have noticed this with many things I did via doctors.
Often when one works on their holistic health via natural means, many ills clear up and as long as they stay close ot their program do not come back..it may be a little slower but in my mind is superior.
I feel I can better help people as my mom wanted by letting them know others have been healed of kidney disease and even gotten off dialysis, to let them know the changes of dialysis, and to tell them all I learned on how to heal it (my mom rarely would do any of it) and post that,
One lady did not even do all I said but sh said this inspired her along wit someone on youtube to change her diet and I spoke to her and she told me how she knew nothing about the connection of diet and health and had never been taught to eat right but was inspired to totally change her diet reading what I wrote.
she had 5th stage kidney disease and said her doctor was stunned when she walked in and he could find no kidney disease anymore..he said that had never happened.
I know what it is like to have a killer disease, my cancer from 19 years ago came back recently and I found it - a lump in breast and found out in February that it was aggressive cancer one of the worst kinds of Breast Cancer I later found out it does not usually respond to treatment but comes back metastasized.
After hearing what doctors had to say (they said I must have mastectomy, lymph node removal, chemo (could not have radiation as had it 2 decades ago) and if I did not I would die...they would not tell me when but implied reading between the lines 2 or maybe 3 years..all they would say when asked would I be here in five years..no you will be dead..all 3 doctors daid.
I decided to do a lumpectomy and got clear margins. I decided against mastectomy, lymph node removal and chemo and doctors mad and they took it personally getting angry and irritated and insulting and using a lot of far to coerce me--even medical blackmail for one of them. It as hard to find a doctor to do what I wanted but luckily God helped me.
Unfortunately it was found in a blood vessel hanging off the tumor when the tissue/lump was removed and cancer was found inside it so it has likely spread and just do not know it yet.
It is scary when it is you and your life is on the line but I know ruining my immune system like that with the chemo and lymph node removal would have made it so no natural program would work (according to Dr Schulze who cured so mcuh cancer etc.
It is hard to find the time to figure it all out what are the most promising natural treatments. I have been kind of trying different things but need to so it more intensely. It's hard but I will get there.
I feel I made the right decision as the pathologist told me when I told him some test results and asked him as far as what he found that the chance it is in the breast and lymph nodes still are almost nil so I would have cut off my breasts, risked horrible lymphedema and impaired my immune system forever had I did what doctors wanted and not what I felt best.
I have since deciding to do primarily natural except for lumpectomy that I definitely have triple negative Breast Cancer (one doctor had disagreed) and that it does not respond well to doctor treatments but does respond to natural in fact, one site said if it was not for alternative health tripe negatives would have no hope at all. But even if I had not had this type, I would not have done their stuff. It was too dangerous and could have lead to horrific permanent effects on the brain and other essential organs..most o not even realize this as they do not extensively research it.
I just hope I find the right alternative modalities and can do and afford it
Parsley root and burdock are so good but be sure it is an organic tincture (like herbpharm brand) and this was the times that they helped my mom just a week before she had a heart attack (her 9th) and died before she could go on the incurables program. It was what convinced her to try it after 10 unsuccessful years trying to convince her...as the effect was so powerful for her it really shocked her and that together with stopping the last 2 heart attacks when I walked in on them convinced her to try to do finally what I suggested. we were in the process of ordering the herbs that week and was going to go there a month and train her and my brothers how to do it all and do it with her, but it was not to be.
In fact, when I get back on the Essiac tea (with the sheep sorrel Roots) I will be taking again some burdock as is said to be one of the top herbs for cancer and cancer prevention...but it is a premo blood cleansing herbs and used for the kidneys I discovered when going through all the blood cleansers in Dr Christopher's book..the school of natural healing
But as far as my mom, the last heart attacks after it she said she was never going trough that again and I feel that is why she did not take the cayenne etc but instead went tot he hospital where she essentially begged them to not work on her and let her die.
She got mad at me and said don't do this to me Jane when I tried to convince her to take more cayenne when the one dose I slipped to her after all left the er room worked to stop it but they already had decided to give her the pain drug they all knew (my mom and the doctors) would kill her (and they would never give her before no matter how much pain she was in and that is why she quit going to the er till that last time) once she was there due to things I found out my sister was telling her about here having no quality of life and the need for her to die to spare her more suffering.) '
Besides ending her heart attack pain in the er, the single dose I talked her into at the ER allowed her to stop writhing pain and e able to share heartfelt things her family (12 were gathered there) wanted to say to her and allowed her to say things back which is good for all there in the final love expressed.
Oh yes I want so much to help other people especially mothers as their children needed them no matter how old they are.
I taught elementary school and kindergarten and so I love children.
Please be sure to see this later and better thread for more help with kidney disease.
and thank you for what you said it is really appreciated. I hope I survive this cancer and can use that to help give knowledge and hope to other cancer patients to as nearly everyone is affected in some ay but cancer in their families.
I worked so hard researching for my mom as I did not have the info very much when I tried to help my dad when he had cancer and died far too young, nor did I have it all yet when my favorite uncle also got cancer though I knew more..finally God lead me to the info and I think picked me for his mission of sharing what I know when I prayed for him to let me use this info to help those who need it and used the traits I have to try to help others when I got cancer almost 20 years ago and all I learn since for kidney or other diseases, I try to post to continue to help and add to the volume of things that can help
I don't think things just happen..I see the chance of all these things --these great healers who got sick and then learned how to heal themselves and then went on to help others did not just happen.
I think god uses others to help answer people's prayers and he is the master healer who gave us these wonderful healing modalities. sometimes I am not on a site for many months and go there to just answer questions of one or two people and there is someone who is desperate who I happen to see and give them all the info I know to try to help them know how to heal and I know when that happens somehow I winded up there just when the person needed help. It makes me marvel at how much he loves us that he kept this info alive despite the era of medical care we are in now.
Sometimes you need doctors and I do like their diagnosing ability but generally I try to then heal myself only doing the things they suggest that I feel is best for me and not super harmful.
I hope it is his purpose to help me come to heal myself to help people who also chose his path of no chemo and radiation and try to go natural or who want to supplement what they do at doctors hand with other things and I hope it can get me to live a more healthy physical and mental life than I was living. But maybe I am not going to make it..I guess if that is the case, I have to try to go one day at a time.
see this thread if you have not already for the kidney as it is better than this one I think..more complete
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1224263#i
I hope it all goes well for you:) hang in there. natural healing is powerful but usually involves doing a comprehensive program except for smaller ills for best results.
You are nice and your last comment and typing this made me cry and touched me to help me know if I do die, my life was not in vain and this info and other info I posted online will go on to help others.
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Diakon Redish help cure kidney a cup a day I try it it's very good and it relieve pain,also heal a lot of your inside body..get it from whole food .it's a big carrot look
chop carrots in it
taste good with rice vinegar.
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This is a reply to # 1,216,769Dear Jenson
You have a plethora of information (and maybe too much to assimulate?)
I think if it were me I would;
One glass of distilled (preferably) water
One glass with the formula 2
Wait half hour for the charcoal mix to go thru your stomach(SCHULZE ADVICES)
Start the Kidney formulas 2 dropperfulls on an empty stomach,in a bit of water or the kidney tea(this will help your kidneys to work better at outputting the junk in the blood AND the fluid retention.)
wait 20 mins approx or more for stomach to absorb liquids.
THEN put some good nutrition, in you such as schulze superfood in fresh squeeze fruit juice.
After that some whole fruits and then take formula 1( this has to be taken with food especially as you are new to this)
((Blood cleansing herbs cna also be done but not at the same time as kidney herbs.You system needs to experience it seperatly first till you see how it feels.))
This is just an idea to start you off. but no matter what anyone says you have to go by how you feel afterwards. Most people get better because they go by how the food/herbs feel once they are in your system.Even if they did not follow an exact program.
Distilled water is only good for short period of time, as there are no minerals in it but these are easily replaced with the right nutrition afterwards.
Cayenne tincture/powder is alway good for most people. those that suffer are usually the ones not on a good diet in the first place. I have seen this first hand. Cayenne can be added to most drinks and can be drunk anytime but dont do this all at once.
If you have seriuos fluid retention then I would seriuosly consider salt baths. they do help with moving fluid out of your system as well.I put about 500gms in bath just to get my leg better-even used some old dulse flakes in the bath as well.
See what you think
Tiggs
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