Hi:

It is hard to answer on the right direction because as you've mentioned certain things do happen. I have several thoughts as to what could be done, but getting them done can be a challenge given the state of the country's terrible medical system and the attitudes. I'll list my thoughts as they come to me.

1. In my opinion, it is a good idea to know what you're fighting. Do as many "tests" as possible (this includes 2-3 opinions before doing anything) in order to have a foundation to work with. Given that lab testing, in general, is terrible this is a huge challenge. For instance, Flowersdogmom had 12 tests done by the same lab to find parasites; in the end, it was worth it but a challenge to find an answer.

Another good reason to do testing is that some parasites based upon their nature will do certain things. Some parasites may have similar traits but they need to be treated differently - the ascaris and strongylis come to mind - there have been deaths involving strongylis.

Testing for other menacing co-factors.... molds and bacteria shouldn't be ruled out.


2. Read, read, read. I can't emphasize this enough! Also, as you read, keep an open mind and don't jump to conclusions.


3. In regard to the scattering problem and how to avoid it. I think the strategy of taking something sweet helps. Also, the strategy of take a little dose for awhile then hit them harder with a larger dose, then back off a little, and hit hard again can help (I think you're doing this). Again, it's important to know what you're dealing with and how that anthelminic affects the parasites; some require a purging an hour or so after taking something and some anthelminics don't require a purgative.


4. Follow your instincts! I wish that I had followed my instincts when I had first got infected with testing; I had mentioned this to my doctor because of the unusual fevers. After studying about parasite symptoms and discovering them, it seemed like it was a no-brainer and the doctor should've caught this. Somewhere on the P Forum I made a list of my symptoms and experience. If parasites are caught early enough they are easier to get rid of -- I'd say after initial infection a few months up to a year would be a critical time to work fast and afterwards it will become increasingly harder.


5. I can certainly appreciate your concerns about your children. I tend to think that because they are younger the problem may not be that bad. Many of us on these forums are in our 30-50's+ and the health issues mounted slowly until a critical point; thus, it allowed the parasites to make a nice home in us for many years and they fight to stay.


6. Dealing with parasites has been a hard journey. The mental aspect has been the hardest. I guess.... the hardest part was NOT knowing anything and discovering strange movements on my own. Using the tapeworms as an example when they die or when they want to evacuate. Had someone prepared me for the possibility, I'm not sure the psychological impact would be that bad because I would be better prepared somewhat. Finding the RIGHT anthelmintic is a problem; in my opinion, using the right one, no one should be experiencing discomfort or pain.

7. Of course, finding the RIGHT person to work with you can make a huge difference in a recovery.

8. Specific killing agents that are custom made is far better than using a broad spectrum formula.

If I can think of more, I'll add to this.

Hi

Unfortunately I do not have any children. I do hope, one day, that perhaps I will have a family. I have suffered miscarriage, twice, and perhaps the parasites played a part here, I'm not sure.

With regards to how you get your family members to treat/be tested. It's really down to them. I understand your concern. I am concerned for my husband, siblings, parents. It's a constant worry for me.

I've tried to educate them as much as I can with regards to what I know regarding my infections/infestations. It's been tough. Up until I received my micrographs and notes my family didn't believe that I had parasites, bacterial, fungal and mold issues.

Now they know what's going on with me, is it enough for them to get tested? I really don't know. I've tried to explain (until I'm blue in the face), that because you have no symptoms doesn't mean to say you don't have parasites etc. I've left articles with them to read in their own time. I sometimes think they'd rather be slightly naive than perhaps know the truth but I can't do anything about that. I do what I can to make them aware but at the end of the day, it's really down to them. They say they don't have symptoms. It's almost like, why fix something that isn't broken??

One thing I'm sure about, if they were to live one day in the life of 70428, Rabbitears, Monique_1, Jessesmom, Hostess, and countless others on these forums they'd seriously think again.

70428.

No problem. :-)

I can see why you would ask the question(s). Good questions again.

70428.

Hi:

"I don't understand if the CDC recognizes that parasites are a problem, and names how many of them affect humans, why the whole medical community wouldn't be taking them more seriously--and why they wouldn't be doing better training all the way around in finding them (labs) but better Dr's also thinking to look for them as causes for other illnesses."

Oh, the CDC does recognize the problem BUT not in America (or civilized worlds). Remember, parasite infections only happens to "those people" in distant lands or unhygienic poor people.




"But, it also seems like the pharma drugs have a worse tendency to cause the scattering/resistance problems?"

I'm not necessarily sure that is true. I did a random survey on the P Forum before the April crash a couple of years ago. It seems as though people were split 50/50 on the pharm/herbs intake and the scattering problem. I found this really interesting and hadn't expected the negative reaction about herbs because I didn't have this experience. While thinking upon this deeper, it occurred to me that the problem might have more to do with HOW broad spectrum compounds are made in relation to the parasites. For instances, is the compound balanced enough; what about sweetener to entice them to stay put; or, on the first several days of treatment, give them something weak to "get them use to the idea" to prevent scattering then whack them very hard later, etc.?




"And that's what Dr's would treat with if parasites were found..but maybe they could find more effective ways of dealing with them if the problem was taken more seriously and money was spent for researching ways of dealing with them."

I agree. Perhaps with this Forum and others like it, we might encourage the medical experts a healthier look at the problem, rather than ignoring it all together with "they don't exist". It is evident to me that doctors will need to be educated and their curriculum needs to be changed to include these kinds of infectious diseases. Right now, the medical education is very minimal and the mindset is closed.

Hi Hostess

It sounds like you're having a real hard time. We know it only too well. I can only sympathise with you. As for your doctor, we know the score there.

As for your doctor's comment:-
"I cannot get a Specialist to see you if all the labs show 'nothing'" !!

You know that when they say 'nothing' that it is down to their inadequate and unreliable tests.
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Why does she want to give you another tetanus? You say you've had a few over the last 20 years. I thought one tetanus lasted up to 10 years. I'm not sure, just curious as to why you've had a few in 20 years and why your doctor wants to give you another.

YOU know your own body. It can be pretty hard to fight when you're up against a system that doesn't listen to their patients let alone have the right tests. It can be absolutely futile. I do understand your plight.
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I'd try to stay away from the processed foods if I were you. It will only encourage the parasites.
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70428.