Interesting....
My experience with many alternative therapies is that they often times initiate spiritual healing as well as physical healing. It is my perception as well that all healing is spiritual healing. You as spirit are doing the healing so physical events can initiate spiritual healing and detrimental physical events can reverse spiritual healing. You as spirit and your body are highly interactive. We as spirit are here to learn from both the healing and the detrimental aspects of our journey.
I have had small injections of urine travel through my entire body from the point of injection. This has been a spiritual emanation from the point of injection that I clearly feel pass through me which is in no way the urine itself. I can feel it very strongly. I know that the injections are a huge healing. I've had an even greater flow of energy through my entire body from drinking Essiac tea which I've had to limit to bedtime because it has been so overwhelming. In both of these cases the healing energies abate after a few uses and I feel that the reason for this is because the earlier healing energies did their job so that added dosages don't have the same spiritual effect.
I believe that what you are experiencing are truly spiritual healing energies which are having a very positive effect on your body.
The physical effects of spiritual healing, or healing from any modularity, often take time to manifest.
I've not had experience with fatigue per se, but do know it is often due to taking on the responsibilities of others, trying to solve other peoples difficulties. This can manifest as all sorts of issues in our own realities. From what I know of rebirthing it is a process of getting in touch with who we are and letting go of the energies of others.
Best to you in your healing process.
Interesting healing you are going through. I do believe that when one turns to face their illnesses - all of them "emotional" and physical, that it is a rebirthing process.
I have been on UT for about 4 years with many good benefits, right from the start. Each person is going to have a different experience. Have never fasted with UT but when I did a 21 day juice fast I think I had more energy than at anytime before. The problem with my fast was that I didn't come off of it correctly and went back to old habits. I think that's what keeps me from going on a UT fast.
I have ingested up to about 6 or 7 cups of urine a day and feel that it gives me a great clean out and healing when I do that much. But because I'm out and about a bit during the day I can't do it on a regular basis because it makes me pee a lot. I also can't drink it after 4 or 5 pm because it keeps me awake at night if I do.
"I associate the bitter taste with NPN/funny protein in my urine.
Similar taste is in poor quality fruits and veg, if one has learned to taste it.
This NPN is a weird player in health. The ask moreless forum has lots for posts
abt it, if one uses the search feature."
How do you know that you have NPN protein in your urine? How does Moreless explain the following facts:
As medical researchers have discovered:
"Urine is the main component of the amniotic fluid that bathes the human
fetus.
"Normally the baby 'breathes' this urine-filled amniotic fluid into its
lungs. If the urinary tract is blocked, the fetus does not produce the fluid,
and, without it, the lungs do not develop."
(G. Kolata, "Surgery on Fetuses Reveals They Heal Without Scars",
The New York Times, Medical Section, 16 August 1988)
There are millions and millions of fetuses floating in and breathing in urine, right at this moment in time. You floated in it and inhaled it and I did too. How does Moreless explain that?
I've practiced UT for about four years and I found that after two to three weeks all unfavorable tastes disappear. If I go off of UT for three or four days, the urine reverts to a somewhat bad taste and bad odor but just as soon as I get back on it becomes no more foul tasting than freshly brewed tea. I control my diabetes through diet alone and follow the Bernstein diet which is 98% protein. There are many UT practitioners out there who say my urine should be putrid, but just the opposite is true. I get mal tasting urine when I fall off my diet.
I drink several cups of urine a day but from what I remember of Martha Christy's book "Your Own Perfect Medicine" her protocol of ingestion is only two or three tablespoons a day and if you've read her story you know that it cured all sorts of ill.
The Bernstein diet can be found at: http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Bernsteins-Diabetes-Solution/dp/B000OVLJKU/ref=sr_1_...
You can think of Bernstein as a carbohydrate restricted Atkins diet. He recommends 4 carbohydrates per meal for a maximum of 12 per day. It is almost identical to the diet that my internationally recognized in diabetes care clinic has all their Type II's on. (They have been researching diabetes since 1923,, and continue their research.) My clinic's plan is 15 carbohydrates per meal. With each of them there is no restriction of fat or cream. I've felt much better than when on any other eating style including the McDougall Diet - on which I gained loads of weight and am convinced that it promotes getting Type II. Not everyone will get Type II, but the biggest factor in my mind are the grains, whole and refined. (Mercola has a book - "The No-Grain Diet" which I agree with completely in concept. It has cured a family member of all sorts of difficulties.) Also on this diet all my lipid profile markers have improved dramatically which is just the opposite of what I would have thought. Yes, I've been brainwashed by mainstream medicine and dietary BS and it literally worried me when I started three years ago, but I'm glad I'm on this diet.
I eat anywhere from 3 to 6 eggs for breakfast along with bacon or sausage. The rest of my day is pretty much beef and pork with some chicken once in a while. I will go for days on end with no carbohydrates whatsoever, and my blood sugar levels remain within the normal range. Things that drive my blood sugar through the ceiling are things that I like, like sourdough bread (sends it significantly higher than another favorite - ice cream), plain oatmeal also sends it higher than ice cream, and brown rice which I love is right behind it. Now, keep in mind that each individual is different, but I know other that have very similar BS problems.
On this diet I have much more energy than on any other diet I've been on and am able to control my weight much better than any other way, another factor for diabetics.
While strictly adhering to this diet (and I do about 90% of the time) my urine has very little taste to it and zero odor. I compared it to freshly brewed tea in an earlier post because it really doesn't taste much different than that. If I eat bread, or even steamed vegetables, the urine taste changes to somewhat sour or a little distasteful but once I've run that through my system I'm back to my pure taste. I can (and do) eat loads of fat and it in no way effects my urine's taste.
Well, as I've mentioned before, each person is different so each one is going to respond differently.
If I remember right in the Bernstein diet a small Italian tomato is 4 grams of carbohydrate. From a class that I took from my clinic, 1/4 cup of rice is 15 grams of carbohydrate. It's not very much. I think that in the Atkins induction diet (the low, low carbohydrate introduction period), there are 50 grams of carbohydrate allowed per day - that's more than my clinic and loads more than Bernstein. I find that even small amounts of carbohydrate such as a little salad dressing or ketchup will trigger a desire for more carbos so I try to really restrict all of that. Found out too that first two to three months are difficult, and it's difficult to stick with it exactly. But once you do it gets easier and easier. When I occasionally fall off, it's easier to get back with the program than it was in the beginning weeks and months. I'm of the opinion that the older you are, the more difficult it is to lose weight. I'm 76 and part of my "program" besides the diet is walking an hour a day, five or six days a week. The combination has kept my a1c at 5.6 which is the mid-point of the normal range. (a1c is a test that determines the amount of glucose that is stored at the cellular level.) Walking has also helped me to maintain and actually lose weight.
I drink a jumbo martini once every week or two and hard liquor has virtually no carbohydrate in it. The downside to that though is that it reduces my eating inhibitions, so before I have something to drink I pre-plan what my meals will be and try to stick with it the rest of the day. I've been pretty successful at that, but have failed at times too. It's like trying to maintain a balance between sticking with the diet while once in a while giving myself a reward. It's a learning process but after three years I have pretty good control. When I've fallen off my diet with ice cream or toasted cheese sandwiches (one of my favorite foods, with sourdough bread, of course) I drink more urine than usual for the next couple of days and that seems to flush out any effects of the carbohydrates - which is the craving of more carbohydrates. I eat a late breakfast and with the high protein don't get hungry again until evening so I eat two meals a day - in violation of what many teach. But hey, it works - so that's what I do.
I have no interest in the Moreless forum. I'm doing what works for me. I've looked at Moreless' "qualifications" and am not impressed in the least. UT has been around for many thousands of years and it works for me - very well in fact.
I think you have to look in the mirror to see who first got on their high horse and came into the UT forum. In each of your posts that I've seen there is always a reference to Moreless and a put down of UT.
I see that you haven't responded to the fact that all fetuses swim in and inhale urine, and in fact it is required to do so in order to sustain life.
I know little to nothing about NPN (which you have posted about in here, and which was posted above) but from all that I can find out it is an integral part of both human and bovine milk at significantly higher levels than urine, something that is required for life. In fact, both of those milks have urea in them. I'm assuming that Moreless and all those who follow him follow a lactate free diet because if they don't, they are getting much more NPN there than they would ever get from UT.
"As I recall, Martha Christy cautioned against drinking a lot of
water on UT, she said
it would dilute the healing properties. And, Armstrong talks about fasting only
on urine."
J. W. Armstrong was suffering from "consumption" (tuberculosis) of the lungs along with diabetes and had followed the then allopathic medical routes for two years with progressive disease before learning about a man who gave his daughter her own urine which cured her diphtheria in three days. Here is a quote from page 29 of his book: "Fortified by my faith in what I thought to be the correct interpretation of the text (i.e. bible), I fasted for forty-five days on nothing by urine and tap water - and this, despite the doctor's assertion that eleven days without food was the limit......I also rubbed urine into my body - a very important factor in the cure.... He cured his illness with this fast, which he broke, by the way, with raw meat!
All of the urine fasts that he prescribed for patients were urine and water, not just urine alone. I try to follow what my body is asking for and personally drink a lot of fluids - both hot and iced tea plus some water, because I feel it helps flush out anything that UT is healing.
"fortunately back in Armstrong's day I think there's would be less added to the water"
I drink tap water. Armstrong lived in England and to this day I don't think they use chlorine. Think that it is ozone. I remember when the Olympics were in Los Angeles the European swimmers refused to swim in a chlorinated pool so the Olympic sponsors used ozone instead.
"have made very quick advances on mental and emotional issues that
were previously stuck.
Also, have had sort of a meditative review of old hopes, goals, choices, and
taken very new directions.
I think this may naturally occur when we have the physical stamina to do
spiritual and psychological growth."
We are in complete agreement on this one. Thanks for posting.