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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,014,307I'm not sure how that feels for Rudy, but that is definately how it feels for me.
Thank you, Invincible, for that wonderful insight.
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This is a reply to # 1,014,307I know that I left love...and even though I did so with my own free-will... I can't help but notice that my second... third...and fourth love...and on and on my next loves...until I end this walk away from my first love...finds me back again...in the presence of my first love again...but I do have a sense of sadness...because what I really wanted to do with each and every one of those second...third...and fourth loves...and on and on and next loves...is to love these latter loves the way that I was loved...and I fail to do so every day... I could quit chasing after the comfort and warmth of this world but I am still here... so if you see what I see...that certain sadness... it is for all of the injuries I have caused in this journey... stumbling around taking other's magic and sometimes I don't give back as much as I was given...
I try every day to reach that place of balance...but every day my foot crushes blades of grass... I swat a mosquito...or break a heart... it is all the same to me...living in a body means, I will cause harm by my very existence in it...but at least I know, I am amongst the whole of us who all agreed to do so and forgive each other all harm... The trick I think is to do all of our forgiveness while we live in bodies...because there is no trick to forgiveness on the other side...all is forgiven...and all love...where time ends...when every spirit and soul is through looking for love... no matter how small... will return from searching for its second... third...and fourth love...and on and on to next loves...will find their way back home...to love.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,014,367Nice, Byron Katie...
She does shed so much light on why we feel certain things and how to work through them.
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This is a reply to # 1,014,367I know how I was judged with perfect love by love itself... I am not sure if I am "too" hard on myself so much as I know what makes it to the other side(love)...and I would like to add as much loving kindness as I can to who love is... so if I am hard on myself it is because this is my last fall(I hope)(even though I have a dream of returning one last time to an earth free of death and dying) and if I can get all my forgiveness done in this life... it will make the road home a fine ride... not so much heavy junk to throw off on the way to the light...and when i arrive... I want to say to love that I have learned my lessons and I no longer want to burn...down there in the underworld where I learned my lessons of love... still I know that my ego is the one who will not let go... I do judge myself much more than I judge others... When I arrive at that place though... a perfect balance...of love... and self love...I will not need this body anymore...and walk into the light...
"Every time you fail, you eliminate one more way that doesn't work" - Thomas Edison"
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Rudi and others,
I think you have a noble cause, and it is hard rising up against restriction and human nature - to discipline the self. I find the only way I can do it is through continual spiritual practice. I don't think it is helpful to unnecessarily focussing on flaws, but I think right intention which precedes action is the key. I think when you have experienced the existential brevity of an NDE however it would be very difficult to reconcile life on earth with the enormity of such a powerful awakening. I knew a Zen Bodytherapist years ago and she was very vigilant of her thought life. I read somewhere if you want to be more loving then practice and begin to think more lovingly. It is an enormous challenge to people, even when I meditate on people who have occasionally harmed me in some way it is very hard to open the heart unconditionally to accept this person and offer love. I feel my heart opening more and more to all people both those whom I deeply care about and those who are merely neutral to my personal preference but it requires due diligence, patience and compassion. I practice Buddhist meditation, but I am non-denominational. I would say to extend compassion to the self for personal weakness, and I'm not trotting out religious aphorisms, we just have to accept ourselves as we are but I can understand the disillusionment with our erring natures and the fact that God hopes more for us in realisation of the self. We often point to the moon with our finger and think there is a long way to get there says Yogi Steven Sadleir in his mediatations, but we must become the moon and we are that already, but I think there is obscurations, I don't know where from they arise but they are there nevertheless, it is our ordinary human nature beset by mortal limitation. I have found cleansing practice to be very useful through curezone and many of us here have done the Master cleanse, it just aligns you, but there are always frustrations which pull us in the oppposite direction, compelling circumstances that test the heart and the vagaries of waking life. There are many peak experiences at which to arrive but most of us are very pedestrian in our spiritual awareness, we just fall at a calibration point through which is the lens that we perceive the world and our fortunes. It is very difficult to awaken and to grow in spirit, it is a hard path, but we yearn for our souls to be intact and to commune with God. I have looked into some cosmic humanism which embraces esoteric social and historic cycles, and from the vantage point of these models we are only dawning in our awareness and are at an early age. I think we need an ordinary view of consciousness despite the frustrations we have with ourselves, we can't seem to do very much but the world has its own rhythms and patterns and everything in it's appropriate time. - Re: Rudy - about love and stuff rudenski
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This is a reply to # 1,014,587I think I will return again one more time in my Myth of a new earth where death has died... but I will not rule out any possibilities...in fact...if I look into the face of love when I go back...I may be in the thread that runs through every stream...to every beach...and everything...to anything...and anywhere love goes... I may be the star in the sky beside you...or the starfish on your shore... thanks for reminding me of some of the many possibilities...
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"Every time you fail, you eliminate one more way that doesn't work" - Thomas Edison"
In the film The Harder The Come, the female lead says :
"every game Ah play, Ah loooze". (phonetics) I've always loved the wisdom in that.
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This is a reply to # 1,014,350I read a book called the disappearence of the Universe.. Have you ever read this book as it seems a mirror image of what you experieced. I have a question for you.. Jesus says there are many rooms in his mansion... What does this mean to you? Did you communicate with any other sould?
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It is interesting that you mention "many rooms" in your response. I first of all want to say that my religious background before my NDE was very disrespectful of anyone not in my religion. Atheists were all lumped into one group and were all bound for eternity burning in the pits of hell... Russians, Muslims, and Catholics were also were particularly hated. There was a bias toward anything Israel did(not matter how villainous). Even those not of my particular denomination were headed to hell... but...My NDE showed me that there was room enough in heaven to fit every soul
in it...but you had to leave your hatred and "unforgiveness" at the door. There were no Russian, Muslim, Catholic, or Atheist Souls in heaven...nor were there any Jewish or Christian souls... in my room in heaven... those labels did not make it into my room in heaven...I saw every soul as an orb of light...little piece of God who is love... a child of the the most amazing light of love... This and other dimensions of my other side were a million ways of telling me that I was loved...not just me but every soul across every dimension...that had the least little bit of light in it...and the only hell I found never made it to my room... all of me that was not loving was left behind me in the tunnel...All of those times when I was not loving...those moments when I was not receiving or giving love...they were going to be burned up and forgotten...where time ends...
Let me stop here to explain this... This 3D world is an illusion like a movie is an illusion...the editor is love...when each and every bittersweet love story is edited...those moments when we(all of "we" who have a story of loving kindness to tell) are loving and kind...joyful...and those moments when we receive the gift of love...they are those moments that become a permanent part of what love is... There is a final version of the movie but it will be changed somehow...transformed into a still shot... a picture of love... I mean every bit of every love there ever was... but even though it does not move...it is multidimensional...and the love is the most awesome love story...coming from every angle... and this is only what I know from seeing a reflection in the gemstones in the throne room of God... this is why I had to come back... I wanted to make my life a love story to add to who God is...the God who is love.
In my NDE, I had a life review...but then when I arrived in heaven...my life review was my offering to a being I called "God" but who is much more than that word...love is a better word for that being but even love pulls up some imagery that is not this pure love that can not see our weaknesses...it is a little different than forgiveness...it is not seeing our weaknesses...and loving us so strong that love dispels the illusions of this world...down here in the underworld...
On the judgment seat, I was shown a 3D version of my life...the final edit.. and I also understood that each and every soul...regardless of it's religion or lack of religion...each and every soul and spirit with the least little bit of love in it...has to account for the life it lived...Every moment of loving kindness for every spirit and every soul...was what could be called light...or love...or in my narrow religious interpretation, "God." If you love someone, you don't love their cruelty...you don't love their unkindness...if you truly love them...you don't even see their cruelty...and unkindness...you love that soul below...and the only way to manage to love someone who is unloving is to forgive them....This is also when it became clear to me that forgiveness was the key. Forgiveness allows us to see the love in everything that has the least little bit of love in it... so why waste a bunch of time hating on people who do not fit my religious view...
As a young gung ho G.I. Joe type that knew what my nation and religion was doing must have been "God Blessed" no matter what they did... My room in heaven made it clear to me that only acts of loving kindness...moments of joy...peace...were ever going to make into my "mansion" so when I returned to this world... I didn't want to fill my life up with those beliefs that were never going to make it to the other side. What amazed me I guess the most was how short my life review was of what was going to make it to the other side. In the final edit of my life review..there was never a moment where I was hating on someone that was going to make it...there were never any moments when I was being patriotic that was going to make it...there was no sex..eating..sleeping...working...or any bodily function that made it into the final draft of who I was that I could offer to God who is love...
God didn't judge me so much as I judged myself... I wanted to add more love to my short film....I had been blessed with so many wonderful moments in my life...yet most of me was not there in that final draft of who I was... From the moment I returned to a burning body(my definition of hell)... I had to deprogram myself from a whole lifetime of brainwashing... For years I could not attend the religious services
of the religion of my youth... Their disrespect to other souls and war mongering were so far from what I found makes it to the other side that even years later...when I would attend religious services...I would get up in the middle of services and leave..why waste my little time left on earth feeding my body and mind things that will never make it into heaven?
My NDE also made it clear to me that if anything could be called hell that it was my "wyrm" or soul being surrounded by a shell of flesh with burning blood and chemicals running through it. While our souls do not literally burn...if we accept a human body then we agree to forget the other side...and cloak our bodies with burning flesh...When I reach a place of forgiveness...that burning goes away for a moment.. I think my room(or heaven) was built for me to show me how love perceived my religion's narrow view of God and who God loves...but more importantly...I was given the of knowing what is important when I returned to this world. Most of those who have NDE's have so many diverse views of what awaits us after we leave our bodies. My mansion or room on the other side is being made by me on this side. If am am self critical it because I want to add more of my life review to who God is. There are many who have a life review(Their "life flashing before their eyes") but some who have NDE's don't remember a life review in theirs. Maybe their rooms are built to see their other side from different angles of love. I know some people don't even see God in their NDE's but they almost always find a loving something on the other side. There is one truth(love) but many different interpretations of it. I met a loving being in my NDE who built my room within the myths of my religion but it was such an extraordinarily loving interpretation of heaven that whomever or whatever that being is who I met in heaven is, I came away with a certainty that I was loved and cared about by the source of all love...and all of my weaknesses were left in the illusions of where I had died...Your room, heaven, or whatever you call the other side is big enough and big is not the real word either...infinite less one...interpretations of love....
I have never read the book, "Disappearance of the Universe" but it seems that even though we may have a different perspective of what the other side may be like...there are probably many similarities... What similarities do you see?- Re: Thank you.. Northstar
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This is a reply to # 1,015,171What I find similar about what I have read that you experience was of a man visited by past souls that were reincarnated to finally they experience the true meaning of going back to God and this world in itself is like a movie that is separate from God and once all souls finally come back to God the universe will end! He speaks about loving and the forgiveness of sins and the power that Jesus gave to his followers to unlock the keys to Heaven... I have always believe in the forgiveness of sins and to go to a fellow member to have our sins forgiven... And like you said about the many rooms and not seeing any different religions I have tried to focuss my attention to the soul of that person and love them even though they are not perfect towards me.
So how does one not go back to the physical body... Do you have to be perfect love 100 percent...
When you had your life past before you eyes was this with the God that you described as the person with the robe,etc or was this with the loving God?
When the bible says we are created in Gods image was this a physical image like a hologram being sized down to smaller parts until you have light or would it be in the image of love? Do we have what looks like a physical body walking around in this mansion with our of Gods souls speaking to each other? I think this book mention something about when the universe is gone that all souls will be back with God as one in one harmony.
I do appreciate all your time you take for people and I will probably have some questions for you.
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This is a reply to # 1,015,468I remember after my first wife left me and took my three daughters with her...she told me she didn't love me anymore...it devastated me...because I thought that the God in heaven wanted me to have a wife and children...to be a husband and a father...and be an example of how forgiveness could make this life a legacy of love... it shook me to the core....the four human beings in all of the world who I loved more than anything on earth...left me... It was as if a kidnapper or terrorist had broken into my house and stolen every ounce of everything that I wanted to live for... I quit my excellent paying job because I could not maintain a sense of why such a thing as work could be important... I could no longer watch tee-vee...because every time I saw children on television...it would make cry...things began going downhill for me...to keep going....I became a cab driver because the job matched my horrible sleep patterns...sleep all day and stay up all night.... Soon after the tumbling crashing of my life, ten years post-NDE, I re-injured my neck...a car with a lady screaming at her kid in the back seat smashed into my cab... The hospital sent me away with only a prescription for pain pills...and muscle relaxants...with no money...horribly injured in every sense of the word...I became homeless...
The way back to the world of the living took some divine intervention and several years of re-learning what kind of the love God was talking about when I booted myself out of heaven again. Loving our family is a good thing...but only when I learned to love the homeless...the broken hearted...the masses of those who for whatever tragedy
there lives had left them physically, emotionally and spiritually bankrupt... was I able to get hat lesson about love learned... inside all who have a soul...there is
something worth loving...it is love itself... my journey has been to draw closer to making everyone everywhere a part of my family instead of just a few...souls who could break my heart...but I am convinced we come to this world in human bodies to get our heart broken...so that we can learn forgiveness...
I think much more highly of myself than I appear to others...but that is okay...today
I know that little acts of loving kindness are more important than anything else there is...more than being a good father or a husband...more than healing the sick and raising the dead... gentleness is the quality of love...not the brassy outward expressions of our efforts to love...moments of compassion with actions behind them...this is the substance of love...when faced with the option of revenge...holding back... these are the lessons that I have learned that are far superior to the lessons of raising good obedient children and bringing home a paycheck will give me about love. I am not saying to not raise good obedient children and ditch your job...but if our world is defined by a job and our family then we are
headed for a fall...our family and our job are not enough to make it through this life...we need as much love as we can get to learn the lessons we need to learn about
love...
I don't watch television... I haven't for thirteen years...okay an occasional
something every once in a blue moon... but I guess where this letter is headed...even if in a convoluted path....is toward when will we quit falling into bodies.. I have an answer but it may not be everyone's answer... but for me... I am not going to earn my way into heaven... I know God who is love...loves me and will not judge me...
I just don't want to have my heart broken anymore...and I don't want to break anymore hearts... I don't watch television anymore because I cry when I see someone hurt... and why in the world would I want to cry anymore...this world of illusions is heartbreaker for sure...I am going to live every day to try and find little ways to
love and be loved... little acts of loving kindness... forgiveness...joy...and joyful laughter... and when it is finished for me in this life... I will travel on to the next life... and I have made a deal with my higher self... I will only return to a body where death and dying is not part of the learning...
Rather than break any more hearts...when I make it to the other side again... I am not going to hold my head down....but look straight into the face of love...and this will end my falling... Like I said before...I may give it one more shot but not in this world of death and dying....but a new earth...free of death's debris. I will not earn my way into the light... It is not about being bad or good...it is just that I don't want to watch horror movies and war movies anymore... I don't want to watch sitcoms with little white lies anymore... I don't want to see sad love stories anymore... I want the real deal... I want to see love wherever I go... I am not there yet in this life...and that is why I am still here...yet some day soon... I am going to see the world through rose colored glasses...and I will only see love... maybe this next life without death and dying will do it for me... I don't know...because that is the only future that my dreams know about... It is not about God judging us but rather when we...all of us...decide that we no longer want to have our heart's broken and no longer want to break hearts...that we will quit falling into bodies...
One way to do that is to forgive everyone that we need to forgive...that way we will not feel tempted to fall again into a body to make amends.... and we should live our lives as lovingly as we can...that way we will not feel compelled to try again... when we forgive ourselves and that means forget...then we are no longer a we...we becomes love and love is all there is where time ends...
Where time ends...I met God...but only on my way back did I see a lesser God...a God who looks like a man... in my heaven we are orbs of light... In heaven I can put clothing and bodies over me...but I don't have to...the image of God who is love is a radiating light of love...The image of God who is love is every love in every dimension...and that being doesn't need a robe or a scepter...That God doesn't need a body///That loving God doesn't need to be male or female... That God doesn't need to break hearts..Love is the image we all have below us and it doesn't have to look human at all...
but this lesser God... I call him the Librarian...most call him God... he looks like me...full of pride...for the world he created...and each person who makes the deal with him to forget the other side...gets to go down and enter a vessel that dies... I
met love on the other side...and though I am still playing the game of death and dying... I will never forget the love that is waiting for me on the other side... that deal with this Librarian...off... I may still pray to this lesser God when things are grim but mostly today... I just want to stay in the flow of loving kindness...let it take me where it goes... but I contracted with many, many souls before I was born...to help them learn their lessons of love and forgiveness...and for them to help me learn my lessons of love and forgiveness. I will let you down if you give me a chance...and you will let me down too... hearts are meant to be broken...that is what they do...but I forgive you ahead of time and I hope you willl forgive me...and let's get back to our final art project... creating love in love's image...Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 1,015,604Hi rudenski,
I just want to say I've read 20 or so of your posts, and I know you and I met the same being. You and I had different experiences but the essence was the same.
There is a "judgment" if you want to call it that, but it’s nothing to fear. Who could fear the most loving person you’ve ever met? Did that review of your life pass by like a VCR tape of fast forward, but you could feel each experience in real time? That’s what it was for me. Also there is no hell except in this body. I don't watch very much TV any more either. Can't find a church that satisfies me with all the dogma mixed in.
I think like you said God makes "heaven" the way you want it to be, or in a way that is comfortable for each person depending on the circumstances for that person. There was like different planes of existence or rooms if you want to call it that, but you could go to any plane you wanted to if you like. It’s all up to you. For me God was a loving wave (just like on the ocean) of spiritual light that ran right into every cell in my body. I could still feel the love for a few days afterwards. Also, I didn’t see pride in God, it was more like full confidence. And also like you said it isn’t God who puts us back here, it’s us. God is there like a helper that makes what we want for our advancement, happen. What ever we see that need is, or that we’re ready for, God is ready to make happen like a loving parent. Like you said God seemed to be beyond male or female. God just is.
You are so right about forgiveness too. It’s the key to loves gate. I don’t know if it’s possible to love without forgiveness. Even forgiving the bug that flies in your eye. There are lessons to learn from it all, and if you don’t learn from it, it will return until you do learn.
Just my point of view in the following, but I bet as soon as you get back to the other side again, you'll be right back here very quickly, especially since the past, present and future are all the same.
What can you gain from a new earth with no tribulations? Heaven was a place of no tribulations for me, and it’s nice, but here is where I advance, and that’s the goal for me. I know you are committed to advancement or you wouldn’t say the things like you haven’t earned your way into the light yet.
Also, for me I don’t see how I can learn how to not have a broken heart without having it broken. Seperating yourself from the problem doesn't make it go away right? I know like you said that you don't want to break other hearts, but it can help both parties involved if they're willing to learn from it. In reality there are no broken hearts, only broken egos and that's no loss because egos are the illusion of separation, and there is no separation.
Also is it real to see the world through rose colored glasses? For me that only creates more problems. For me, it’s more about being a mirror or calm lake that reflects reality as it passes by, like it truly is, without the need for my judgments that change it. Like you said follow love where ever it may lead.
Keep posting the great things you learned R! I love reading them and remembering things I forgot, learning new things and having it urge me forward. Plus it reminds me that I am not alone as far as my experiences in life.
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This is a reply to # 1,015,719It is good to hear from you.... I think these are moments that are not by chance... I have been to where you have been...and it gives me the courage to be bold... I have been trying to tie down who this Librarian I met in my NDE is but then it finally occurred to me that even as there are two sets of books in criminal enterprises...there are two sets of books in my NDE...
I know it seems a contradiction....but there are two sets of books.... films... 3D records of our life...and every life...and the lives of every spirit....but this first record was superseded in my NDE...by a filter program...and I know there is a better description....but it was a G rating filter...The Librarian of this world is limited to space and time to show his terror films...but there are two librarians at least...and I went to two...there is one library in heaven and one between the atmosphere and heaven...the one in heaven is where we get our final draft to show to God who is love,,,but that librarian in heaven is not God... and there is another library where we plan our fall..into bodies...outside of heaven... kind of like a wyrm processing plant...The collector of all of the films in time and space places all of his 3D books or videos..in the location of the libraRY outside of heaven...he collects 3D videos of every soul and spirit's actions and intentions,,,BUT HE DOES NOT GET OUR SOULS...but they sure look like us....he is the God of this world...through the ages...but the librarian in heaven(who is not God) is a different sort of being....kindness and forgiveness are the energy that comes from this being,,,,but in both libraries...this heavenly librarian protects us ....and he has a filter that allows Yah or the God who is love to see us...to move the record from outside of heaven into the presence of God who is love...without us dying.... I know it seems confusing but one is a gift to a child who is running away from home where mum packs his lunch for him for the journey and the other is place to prepare for the coming home party...like a scrap book of love....
May Yah who is love bless you....
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Rudi, What do you think it means the graves and sea will give up its dead? You went on to heaven to see GOD as it seems light/energy will never cease but go onto a different form, but what do you think this passage means.
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This is a reply to # 1,015,786I was thinking about your question when I went to sleep last night,,,posted this above.... I hope it answers your question but I can only say what I know from a very narrow view...seen from the field of view of one soul...
I think I am getting it now...a little closer to the truth...forgive me when you see me fighting with me... with my lesser higher self...in the dark night of the soul... My wyrm it wrestled with angels again...late into the night...I woke up at dawn.... and still...the rain is coming down...dark clouds are hanging low...with the dawn there is no light...but morning came anyway...and with her a little understanding...this is what I am coming to...We are all collectively somehow...this lesser God... A little part of you...a little part of me...we all conspired to hide from the light...but love let me know...shhh....that it's alright...She reminded me ...we all took with us a loaf of bread... Our little light of love...We...our collective we and lesser higher selves...we leave bread crumbs back to love... I think if I am a little sad...it is only because...we fell in the first place...but forgiveness is the key... I know I may even seem a little mad... the brutality in you...cruelty in me... but I must forgive you...and I must forgive me...and I hope you forgive as well...that lesser God in you and I... In this way I can learn to love...and let my little light shine above...so one day the loving part of the little God in all of us...we will finally learn...no longer burn for what dies...the little bit of love in all f us..we can come out of our little shells... the deserts can give up their dead...and all of those sailors lost at sea...and all of us...the collective we...will dry our little butterfly wings...spread and stretch them out... and fly... all of us who fell and become a part...of the larger light of love we all denied... - Re: Thanks again and more questions.... rudenski
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This is a reply to # 1,015,786"Matthew 23:13-33
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in."
The NDE reveals the mystery of all religious sayings... Religion that serves only what preserves one's physical life is going to be forgotten and cast as far as the "East is from the West." What we do that serves loving kindness...and joy...the light within us...makes it to the other side...where time ends... We can plug up our lives with religious rituals and rules....less loving kindness...and joy...only to find that we wasted our lives chasing things that die. When time and death are swallowed up in life... loving kindness and joy are the foundations on which our room in heaven or mansion is built. The "greater thing" the NDE can do is reveal that we are all loved no matter what we do...even if we are religious...or not,,, and religious or not...the NDE reveals that all love and joy we receive or give will survive this life...all of it... so give love...spread joy... love and joy unlocks the gates of heaven...so enter ye in you religious and if you don't believe in heaven ...then you are in for a great surprise... when you die you may not even call heaven heaven...and that is okay with me,,,but the rule of love and joy...it still applies... so give love...and give joy...repeated in a thousand different ways...- Re: Thanks again and more questions.... northstar
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This is a reply to # 1,019,222Hi. Since you didn't pass away and experience almost everythng in this NDE... What do you think that wasn't exposed to you during this journey?
- Re: Thanks again and more questions.... northstar
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- Reposted from another thread rudenski
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- Without a soul? iNan
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"inside all who have a soul...there is
something worth loving.."Let's spaculate. Thanks God I can doubt of my beliefs sometimes... because that's what I call a healthy dosis of skepticism. We all know and suffer what fanatism can do. So, please note that what I'm just speculating here and make your own opinions (and share it if you can! :) )
So... Her it goes the question/comment:
Do you think that there are bodies without soul?
Because I believe (I could almost use the word know) there are persons without soul. Persons without Light/Love.
They are NOT people who make mistakes, because we all do mistakes. I'm talking about something else, different in nature/essence.
I'm talking about people that just 'breathes' and survives, absorving others energy. Just like the mythological vampires... but instead of sucking your blood, they try to suck your energy -IF you let them-.
Those soul-less persons are living here without love... They just 'breath', without love.
I can spot them in the act, they try to cover themself with external devices. They pretend to be light person, but deep in your soul you can feel that they're trying to trick you.
And they always try to enter in your life in the moment of despair, when your defenses are down.
Rudenski... Have you sensed any of those in the world too?. Or some other people on this forum?
I don't really know what I'm talking about, but I 'know' the essential thing: There's a lot of bodies without soul on this world. I prefer to avoid them (not hate them because I will be doing what they do), but I do avoid them if it is possible.
Blessings,
Inan
- Re: Without a soul? rudenski
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This is a reply to # 1,027,149I> Do you think that there are bodies without soul?
R> I do.
I>Because I believe (I could almost use the word know) there are persons without soul. Persons without Light/Love.
R>Know is a strong word but I am there too...almost... I believe that there are some bodies whose spirits either were born without souls or whose souls have left the body because of a shock to the system or a pain so grievous that the soul leaves the body. My grandfather was a wonderful man but a few days before he died... he was not himself and began cursing and saying things that were not him...
I>They are NOT people who make mistakes, because we all do mistakes. I'm talking about something else, different in nature/essence.
R >Souls have free-will. They can reject a body anytime they want...and some do... this is a huge tragedy... as they cause so much suffering and pain...many end up in prison...others end up as powerful men..or women... Many Psychopaths...CEO's... & Religious Teachers are of this ilk... The more clever one are running the world...
I > I'm talking about people that just 'breathes' and survives, absorving others energy. Just like the mythological vampires... but instead of sucking your blood, they try to suck your energy -IF you let them-.
R > Yes...Con artists and extortionists....
I > Those soul-less persons are living here without love... They just 'breath', without love.
I can spot them in the act, they try to cover themself with external devices. They pretend to be light person, but deep in your soul you can feel that they're trying to trick you.
And they always try to enter in your life in the moment of despair, when your defenses are down.
I> Rudenski... Have you sensed any of those in the world too?. Or some other people on this forum?
R> They may seem to be pious but they usually can be detected by a sense of a lack of remorse for injuries...always right...no empathy...
I > I don't really know what I'm talking about, but I 'know' the essential thing: There's a lot of bodies without soul on this world. I prefer to avoid them (not hate them because I will be doing what they do), but I do avoid them if it is possible.
R> There are many more points of light than pure dark...and even more shades of lighter gray...or the world becomes a place where all souls will leave their body for a new earth...the Age of Aquarius...
Light does run through the vast most of us and discernment should be used to help dodge the con artists... Mean spirits are pretty easy to spot... The ones who sell you on love but then deliver you into the pit are the ones that are hardest to pick out but...sometimes I dangle on the sides and sometimes I am flying high... I prefer the light but I will take darkness over nothing... I guess that is true for most of us... Some day soon... I am shaking this snake skin....
- Re: Without a soul? rudenski
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- Re: Thank you.. Northstar
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- Re: Rudy - about love and stuff #50953
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This is a reply to # 1,014,350There are some pretty esoteric and advanced souls in this conversation, and I want so much to understand not the words but the background. Not through malice, but recklessness I have hurt others, and at mid-life(or on my last day, who knows?) I grieve for those I wounded as I charged through life. To look back is to turn to stone. So I lurch forward. Surely, there are others stumbling toward Yah, yearning to love as we are loved and deeply sorrowful for those we hurt.
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