Re: Debate Moreless or Acid/Alkaline Debate Forum?

You make some good points. As I said here:

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We see Vulcanel from different angles. I may have been posting with him longer than you and/or have read his posts and the subsequent changes to them, along with reading other posters confronting him on his behavior where you have not.

I know others have seen what I have seen, based upon the few agree votes from the link you have referenced and the one you are responding too. Trapper says the same of ML... notice that I did not disagree with him, I just did not ever see this. It does not mean it has not happened. I have seen ML add an "edit" and identify the post as being edited, not what trapper stated and I responded to that.

Another poster carried the discussion on V further in that thread...

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I am not the only one who sees him in this way... and his behavior is known to many.

I had even confronted V on this more than once before.

If you remember I pulled up past posts of your opposition to kelp supplementation due to Iodine overdose NOT to discredit you or anyone else for doing a 180. It was not intended that way. What was intended, and what I attempted to illustrate, was to show that people's opinions change, we learn, we grow, we move on. The other reason was to HOPE that some would find a little compassion and tolerance for those that approached Iodine supplementation with caution and doubt.

This is life and I said as much in a later response to you. Why do you hang on?

Being upset or angry about it is a display of the non-acceptance of reality. Your opposition at one time was real, your change of opinion was real. I did not think you had a problem with that, and you should not have. Apparently I was wrong. I hope I am wrong about that statement now.

Two monks were returning to the monastery in the evening. It had rained and there were puddles of water on the road sides. At one place a beautiful young woman was standing unable to walk across because of a puddle of water.

The elder of the two monks went up to a her lifted her in his alms and left her on the other side of the road, and continued his way to the monastery.

In the evening the younger monk came to the elder monk and said, "Sir, as monks, we cannot touch a woman ?"

The elder monk answered "yes, brother".

Then the younger monk asks again, " but then Sir, how is that you lifted that woman on the roadside ?"

The elder monk smiled at him and told him " I left her on the other side of the road, but you are still carrying her "

Let it go, do not carry the burden.

I am not the first to confront Vulcanel on this behavior of deleting posts etc. I most likely will not be the last if he continues to do so. I do not have the time to post links to others confrontations with him on this. If you want to search and find them yourself, feel free... it also goes back to his previous user name on CZ, if you know it...

V has been accused of trolling in the past in addition to the changing of his posts by others.

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ML may discredit himself through some of his posts, I may do the same through some of mine as you may do through yours, etc. We may all change our thoughts on a particular therapy as well. We live, we learn, we are human. The posts should remain to reflect our being human.

I can not discredit anyone, they discredit themselves through their own behavior.

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