Yeah, well the way I look at it is that no one here was ever there, so it's all speculation. Vtool and I get along only because I understand his needs. As for your situation, You have my sympathy and my prayers. I am going through some rough things myself and it is difficult to remain removed from some of the blitzkrieg that is fying back and forth. Honestly I thought that the others had influenced you with hteir constant harrangueing of vtool. Your circumstances did not come through your post. I just thought that hte "clic" that resides here might have pushed you in some way to retaliate. Just understand I did it because I didn't think your post could be positive in a good debate on "Christianity". I hope I don't overstep my bounds.