Re: I hope we can conclude this discussion.

The HCL info came from one of Gary Null's books, possibly “The Complete Encyclopedia of Natural Healing” The problem was he didn't go into any depth about this, just mentioned that this was the cause. I suspect this might be the cause for me but I would like more information.

About my cleanses: I've been doing the Hulda Clark cleanse with some slight modifications. On the day of the cleanse I don't eat anything solid, just mainly drink apple cider in the morning. A few times I drank liquid after 2:00pm and I felt sicker during the cleanse so I would recommend not drinking after 2pm. For cleanses 4,5,6 I had taken Gold Coin Grass and this could be the reason that the stones were softer and more crushed when they came out. For flush #7 I ran out of the GCG so could be that these stoned were more solid. Don't really know this though. Also for a few of the flushes I upped the olive oil to 3/4 cup and I think this gave better results.

Stones didn't hurt when they came out, in fact most of the time I don't think the cleanse is working until a few days later when I pass the larger stones (I always pass the smaller green stones the next day after the drink, but the larger tan sandy ones come out the day after that) I usually do an enema to bring out the larger stones.