i'm only new here but hasn't this been disproved countless times with tests being done showing that flushes using olive oil + lemon juice produce actual stones?

..to another poster with the same question which interestingly stems from the same source.

Andreas's post

Your are certainly entitled to your opinion, and I respect that. But since I have never released even a single stone in my last 6 cleanses (after having passed 3,500) and numerous other people have had the same experience, you may wish to rethink your statments you have made here. Why would olive oil and Epsom Salts produce stones when the liver still has stones, but not do so when it is all clean? Given that HCL and body temperature are still about the same.

I don't mind if you provide us with constructive imputs and creative constributions, but would appreciate not to feed us with such misinformation. You may choose to do this on other forums,

Thank you for your understanding,
Andreas

I don't want to get further involved with the argument about real vs. fake stones; that will probably never be completely resolved to everyone's satisfaction. However, I do want to address the issue of releasing huge numbers of stones in multiple liver flushes. There has been some expression of disbelief that many people can pass thousands of stones. I am one of those people. I estimate that I have passed at least 5000 stones ranging from the size of a BB to over 1 inch in diameter. I began flushing in August of 2002. After I began flushing every two weeks in April 2003 I began to get concerned about passing so many stones. I questioned my doctor several times asking why this was happening and I admit, even asked if they were real stones or something created by the ingredients in the liver flush. Dr. S would sigh and patiently explain how the liver functions and the mechanics of the liver flush.
I got some clue as to why I was producing so many stones after I discovered parasite fragments in some large stones. I think I flushed out almost as many stones in November after finishing the parasite cleanse as I had in all my previous flushes combined. I once again questioned Dr. S and wrote to Andreas Moritz about my huge number of stones. Both men had the same answer, I was flushing 100s of stones every time because my liver is still producing stones! Although I have been involved with alternative health care and self healing for over 18 months, my past is a liver's nightmare. A lifetime of a poor diet, prescription pills including blood pressure meds, anti-depressants, and pain killers, both prescription and OTC had really messed up my liver. Add to that years of extreme stress, chronic pain, negative emotions and the parasites, I was a walking gallstone factory.
I know that I am going to have to make even more lifestyle changes to controll the continued production of stones. While my diet is much healthier, I do falter quite often. I continue to experience a lot of stress in my personal life, I must learn ways to control it. Depression is also a continuing problem. Medications may have masked the problem, but have not come close to curing it. EFT and Reiki have provided some relief, but I must apply these more consistantly. I don't know how many people who release unusually large numbers of liver stones have the same issues, but I would be willing to bet that all of us have factors that result in the continuing production of real cholesterol stones.
I do know that regular Liver Flushing has helped bring me from being almost non-functional to a marked improvement in overall health. I also know I have a long way to go. This is a private journey I'm on. Sometimes its lonely and frightening. Thanks to the advice, support and encouragement of Curezone members, the journey has been made easier. My great hope is that I can share a bit of knowledge or experience that will make someone else's journey a little easier.
To sum up this post with a great big DUH! People who pass huge numbers of gall/ liver stones are probably people who are still producing new stones. Flushing does not immediately stop the production of stones, but hopefully the rate of production will slow down and eventually stop with regular flushing and overall improvements in lifestyle.