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Re: My Celiac Disease Symptoms gone with a Supplements protocol and Kefir.
 
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Re: My Celiac Disease Symptoms gone with a Supplements protocol and Kefir.


Ok, so let’s get immunology related…….

I do not pretend to say that all those guys are wrong completely, but remember nothing in this world has the absolute truth including the science, mainly a primitive Science like ours. What I say is that they might be partially wrong and partially OK. The Science is rich in such cases. There are too many anecdotes and stories in which at the beginning everybody believes that the interpretation of a discovery or development of a theory is correct because it was firstly postulated or stated by brilliant scientists as those you mention with incredible and extreme accurate research, then someone else, usually a less renowned scientist comes and destroy such truth with a new theory. This is the natural process of the Science and I would like to recommend you to leave space for error and mistake for the science always. The research and understanding about our body and CD is still immature. I’ve read that there are around 100,000 chemical reactions in the body daily, they regulate our health and determine what diseases we can develop and I guess that nobody in this planet is able to understand them all, therefore nobody can have the last word about a disease, or do you?, or do you believe that those guys from the links you mention understand all those reactions as to be completely sure that there is no cure?

I guess that your smart friends with extremely accurate research, are just deciphering a small part of the puzzle but they are far from discovering the whole truth, they have discovered the final effects but not the root causes. The complete human genetic code was discovered very recently, consequently, and this is a fact, it is not well understood the relationship between genes and the members of our immune system, therefore, at this point, we cannot say that autoimmune disorders cannot be reversed or cured because you were born with an autoimmune disease or because it is written in your genetic code.

What I do agree with you is that you cannot have zero CD symptoms as long as you eat a high carb diet.

What I do not agree with you is that regardless of what you do (even maintaining a gluten-free diet) you will be sick with the symptoms of Celiac Disease forever or any progressive autoimmune disease. This is, your T-cells going crazy for the rest of your life even with a gluten free diet. Is this what you want to say with the links and the information you have?

Yes I understand a few things about the immune system and what autoimmune means, I’ve read a couple of good books about it because of my asthma and the series of diseases I mentioned. And what I understand is that you will have a strong and balanced immune system if it knows the good and bad things (a balance). Your immune system is like boxing man, if he does not do training or does not have the proper environment and conditions (nutrition, oxygen and coordination) he will loose the battle against opponents (pathogens), that is, in order to have a balanced and strong immune system it needs to fight opponents regularly (practice and training) and have the proper environment. Your immune system goes mad (autoimmune) and weak if there are too many bad things, for example excess of pathogens, pollutants, stress, virus, free radicals, etc under the improper conditions. Autoimmune means that your immune system gets confused, there is no good communication among the immune system units, goes crazy and attacks many things (tissue, organs, intestine lining, etc) and even itself because it thinks that everything is a pathogen (gluten, dust, undigested particles, or more accurately the gliadin in CD, etc). In immunology this is known as lack of immune signaling.

If we compare CD with the bronchitis I mentioned before on one side, and the virus that produces bronchitis with gluten, that is, the gluten is the pathogen. What I am telling you is that it is possible to cure bronchitis if you kill the pathogen (the virus). Next time your body gets in touch with that virus your immune system will now how to kill it, but if you get in touch too much with that virus or the pathogen eventually your immune system will succumb against it and you will get sick again. Same case with gluten (the pathogen), you get in touch with it every day three times a day, then you will get sick. Autoimmune diseases are developed, this is what almost any immunology literature accepts as true and they can be developed during the fetus formation due to the mother’s dietary factors or others. Autoimmune disorders can be reversed if you achieve to normalize the communication among the immune units (immune signaling). I recommend you to read a little about the relationship between glycobiology and immunology and the betaglucans theory. Perhaps, with this information in your mind, you might change your perception.

Note: Glyconutrients might trigger CD symptoms because they are supposed to increment T-killer cells activity (which is not desirable in CD patients) and intolerance due to xylose content. Also, thus far, most of the betaglucans sources contain dosis of wheat unfortunately.


What I tried to explain, is that:

CD and bronchitis are both about going beyond the immune system thresholds or boundaries. Once you cross the threshold you get sick.

You can reverse the symptoms of a crazy immune system if you provide the proper environment and avoid the pathogens (carbs, gluten or virus), that is, reverse the symptoms of CD and live for the rest of your life without CD symptoms.

Once you become stable and have provided the proper environment, you can live with a low carb diet without having any CD symptom as I currently do with 20 grs of carbs/day and sometimes up to 40 grs (every fifteen days). Thus far this is ok for me but if my condition worsens again I will notify about.

Certainly, I agree with you that my monthly tests (at least in the extreme way I have done it) to verify my resistance to carbs are not recommendable for anyone including myself.

However, as a futuristic guy, I would like to believe that, even though this day might be distant, it is possible to manipulate your immune system and genes in such a way as to avoid gluten reactions completely as that of CD even with a high carbs diet.


I am not a follower nor a believer I just test what sounds logic, it works, I keep on it, it does not, I forget about it.

No matter how many links you have, let’s make a deal, for every link that you provide me telling there is no cure for Celiac Disease, I will provide you five historical anecdotes in the disciplines I know of theories and statements that were initially considered as the whole truth by the scientific community because they were developed by a very renowned scientist but then, time later were proved to be inaccurate and false.


 

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