Thank you,
ill look into the things u suggested, i knew it was the vein thing its the only one of all the things even rare that fit, but im no to the large lumpy varicose stage yet but with all the pain im guessing its coming and i wanna try and reverse it if possible, ive tried about everything out there and wasted much money on scams and false creams...i heard so much about horse chesnut rott for leg vien health but thats had no effect i took that for 6 months last year