no doubt welz is interested first and foremost in the money, also no doubt croft has made this whole thing accessible to the masses. my only question is what kind of energy do these things really generate? i don't know!! i am not convined they are the answer to stopping the nwo, as croft seems to suggest, nor am i convinced the energy is twisted or dark, its just that i don't know right now. like you say orgone research has been suppressed and ignored, we need more info and data, but from where???