I could not judge him when I was new to the forum could I? But yes I made a serious error. I have never come across anyone like that before. I did not think you would want anything mailed. that is what I said. Yes they do have destruction in their minds. However, I wanted Trapper and Tomi, mostly Trapper at that time away from the forum, it was Refreshed who convinced me he had the right to be here and she was right on that. However, no person should put up with the constant swearing and slander that we have. I actually think it got worse, much worse as time went on. There is no doubt that Refreshed has left her account open so there is a good chance she will be back. I can't tell you how she is I am afraid, she is obviously taking a break from here. So yes you are right Loquat we should ignore but if ever the situation changes then I would reconsider.