Re: Andrew Basiago Interview Pt4

Part4 (continued)

Dear Ed,

"Forty years have passed since we served together on Project Pegasus. I think it is incumbent upon you to now step forward and end "the High Psi Cover-up" that has been architected to conceal the US government's time travel capabilities. If you do so, you will justifiably be hailed as a hero. This courageous act may also result in you being identified as a major "planetary whistleblower," as I have been. Certainly, you can step forward with my assurances that if you do so, I will avoid any discussion of project elements that project principals would not want revealed publicly at this time...

Ed, the hour is growing very late. The Gulf of Mexico is filling up with oil. The time to create a new energy infrastructure is upon us. Teleportation can be the cornerstone of the new civic infrastructure of the 21st century. Your personal testimony is crucial. Please coordinate with me and let's work towards an historic
press conference with Governor Richardson in Sante Fe. The future is in our hands. Together, let's end the time travel cover-up and help create a sustainable future for all seven billion inhabitants of our planet.

Your friend in time-space, Andy"
SOURCE

John B: Alright. Let me ask you this… Major Ed Dames, I found out about him back when I was a big fan of Art Bell on Coast to Coast AM, and later that dream came true. And I was actually able to post a few programs there myself for a couple years. Other than that, I would have never known of his existence. But I found there was something lacking in the accuracy of his remote viewing.

Now, how does remote viewing & time-travel, how do those two things tie together?

Andrew D Basiago: Remote Viewing is the most rudimentary of the eight modalities of time-travel that I referenced in terms of Project Pegasus achieving by 1970. Conventional remote viewing is simply the use of the human mind to see things at a distance, occurring at a distance, in real time – in the present, or in those time places that we call the past & the future. It is simply an extension of human psychic ability to see things at a distance.

Ed Dames was involved as one of my facilitators on Project Pegasus, guiding me through experiences, not all of my experiences, but some of my experiences in the Montauk Chair. He knows about the other time-travel devices.

I’m going to make an accusation, now. I believe that his remote viewing advocacy, which he claims began in 1982, not in 1972, when Ingo Swann stated the Remote Viewing Program began at Stanford Research Institute (SRI), when in fact, I was remote viewing for the Office of Naval Intelligence in the Fall of 1969, but that is another matter.

So, I believe what Ed has done is that he’s concealed his time-travel & his Mars visitation activities, which remain classified, by focusing on remote viewing. And then, spinning these catastrophic disaster stories, earning the reputation of “Dr Doom”, while never addressing the more serious classified activities he was involved in. So, he’s basically talking about time-travel technology, but between remote viewing, we then can have you spin somebody to induce an out-of-body experience so they can astrally travel, and then you can interview them about what they see while astrally traveling in the waking state.

You can then put them into the Montauk Chair & use magnetic transduction to send their mind forward in time, so they pre-experience an episode in their own subjective future. And when they come back, you can question them about what they saw, what they were doing in the future, what was on television, who was the President… these kinds of questions.

Then in the middle, we have sort of a Chronovision, where you have the propagation of a hologram, to recapitulate a past event, or a future event, using either the residual signal, or the potential signal, of a past or future event, respectively. And, I don’t know how you view it, you can either look at the device, as a “looking glass” and engage in technical remote viewing, which is what the term that Ed Dames associated with just conventional remote viewing on Coast to Coast. He basically confused the public about Chronovision by calling conventional remote viewing “Technical Remote Viewing”. So the Chronovisor, its kind of in the middle of the spectrum of sophistication of time-travel modality. You can either propagate a past or future event & have somebody observe in the laboratory, or there envelved within the hologram, when you turn the device on, you can send them, there, to that event. And so, there’s sort of a physio-virtual time travel that occurs that way, holographically.

And there are four forms of physical time-travel:

-Tesla Teleportation
-The Stargate, which is an advanced teleporter.
-The Plasma Confinement Chamber

Which is what was used by Dr Stirling Colgate of New Mexico Tech, and my father to send me to Gettysburg to see Lincoln give the Gettysburg Address on November 19 of 1863.

And, of course, the Jump Rooms

- clearly, also can be regarded as physical teleporters, although there’s some speculation between Bernie & I of whether they were simple advanced Chronovisors that were sort of able to engage in a form of exo-planetary holography, where we weren’t vising the actual Mars, but a standing hologram of it.

So anyway, that’s the spectrum. And so, what Ed has done is taken the most rudimentary technology & built a career of prediction around it. Most of the time, purporting predictions that don’t come true, but that sell tickets at his lectures, because people will come to an event if they believe if its going to be necessary to save their lives & protect their families from catastrophe.

John B: Wow. Extraordinary. You know, we’ve covered a lot of ground today. Between now, and the next time we meet, which I hope is soon, because I feel pretty sure there’s a lot more to discuss.

I don’t know, Andrew, I get the distinct impression that we’ve really just scratched the surface, here. But this is more than enough for people to chew on. But give them one last little nugget that will peak their interest & help them keep their minds open for new revelations that are yet to come.

Andrew D Basiago: Yeah, yeah. You know, Jim Mars said something about the Roswell incident that I think is very intelligent. Jim is a bright man, he’s full of a lot of intelligent observations of reality. And said to me one time, he said, “Andy, you know, Roswell really doesn’t come down to proof. It comes down to ‘belief’. Because, if you can believe the premise that extraterrestrials came to our planet & despite their sophisticated technical ability, crashed their vehicle in Roswell, New Mexico, of all places, and their bodies were recovered, and maybe one or two of them were taken as prisoners, or guests of our government, then you will now believe the, now, eighty plus witnesses we have who are totally credible, and who represent every last detail, in what has become as the Roswell incident as we know – the post-Stanton Friedman investigation of Roswell. But if you don’t believe that premise, you will not believe it, and you will scrutinize a signature of Harry Truman on a Majestic 12 briefing document, and choose to find it a counterfeit signature.

So, I like to say in my Mars Anomaly Research Society (MARS), I share this with the now over 12,000 members of the Mars Anomaly Research Society (MARS) on Facebook, that most people are not scientific. And I’m not finding fault, here, and I’m not saying “I’m scientific.” But because of the non-ordinary nature of my experiences, I was forced to evaluate how people receive non-ordinary information. And in fact, very bright people in the alternative media, & alternative research, have embraced Carl Sagan’s position, that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Well, they don’t, they only require reliable evidence, ordinary evidence.

But what most people do is that they don’t frame their beliefs based on their findings – the don’t use the scientific method. They find their findings based on their beliefs. If they don’t believe that Roswell happened, they won’t believe that the Harry Truman signature, on the famous MJ-12 document, was his signature.

Now, how does that relate to my experiences?

Well, when my book comes out, the public will see that I engaged with highly specific proofs. Where I’ve gathered facts from my memory, investigated them online & other written sources, in libraries, in newspapers. But also traveled to New Mexico three times, spending about almost a whole month there, cumulatively – going to different archives, talking to different people. So, if your listeners are having difficulty believing that I time-traveled, and that of course places me in Defense Technical context, where I then, as a college student, went to Mars, let me share this anecdote with you:

Before I went on my second fact-finding trip to New Mexico in 2004, I stated the following:

“I was taken to a small brick building off of School Rd, in East Hanover, New Jersey, by my father. Well, in October or 2013, I found that building right where I said it was. I said that there was a time-travel scientist there working with my father, who’s name was Dr Stirling Colgate, that he was President, and at some point was Dean of Physics, or Chair of the Physics Department, at the New Mexico Institute of Science & Technology, which was called New Mexico Tech in Socorro, NM. That he was identified by my father as one of the scions of the Colgate Palmolive fortune, Colgate Palmolive is of course is now Mennen, there was Mennen facility in East Hanover. I remember my dad & Connie Chavez calling Stirling Colegage “Stir”.

So I took all these facts, and Stirling Colgate, East Hanover, New Mexico Tech, Soccoro, and then I remembered the technical term of that they used to send me to Gettysburg. Now, of course, the Gettysburg Jump was evidenced by the picture of me that was taken by Mathew Brady, that is known as the "Josephine Cobb Image of Lincoln at Gettysburg". I am the young boy standing in the foreground of that image looking to the left edge of the photograph.

I was there because I was sent there via Plasma Confinement under the direction of Dr Colgate & my late father, an employee of essentially the world’s largest engineering company. Right, - Parsons gave the government the mx-missile, built a city in Saudi Arabia – the city of Yanbu.

Okay, So then I gather up all these facts, and I go to Socorro, New Mexico on my second fact finding trip in September of 2004. I went with my friend from Vancouver, Washington, Dixie Caris. So, Dixie & I travel to New Mexico, and we park on the curtilage of the New Mexico Tech campus, looking for where the ‘C’-shaped building there was, where Dr Colgate & advanced physics students at New Mexico Tech were processing images from the future. That’s where my father & I had been called where we viewed, for example, the movie 20-second video of one of the planes hitting one of the Twin Towers & exploding in an orange fireball 30 years in the future on 911.

So we ended up parking our rental vehicle so that the front wheels are on the vacant lot where that ‘C’-shaped Aerojet Corporation facility once stood. Sitting, eating her lunch on a retaining wall, is Joy Thompson, at that time the head Research Librarian for New Mexico Tech. And I explained what I was shown there, when the C-shaped Aerojet Corporation facility was still there, and I explained my multiple interactions with a scientist by the name of Dr Stirling Colgate, who as a child, it had been explained to me, he was the Chair of the Physics Department, there, that became the President of New Mexico Tech.

And she said, “Oh, of course, Stirling was our President here for years. Let me take you inside to our Research Library of Special Collections & I will let you sift through the Stirling Colgate file."

John, I opened an envelope and pulled out a photograph of Stirling Colgate when he was Chair of the Physics Department at New Mexico Tech. And the first item that I pulled out of the envelope was a newspaper article from 1972, the year that I had already stated that he & my dad had sent me to 1863 to see the Gettysburg Address. And it was stamped (I have it on a DVD), something like, February 5th 1972 – in ink on the newspaper clipping. And the gist of first sentence of this news article was, “Dr Stirling Colgate, President of New Mexico Tech, will give a public lecture tonight on his advances in Plasma Confinement.”

Now, I’m sorry, if you go to even an advanced graduate student today, and say, “What do you know about Plasma Confinement?” They are not going to be able to tell you a lot, because it remains a semi-classified technology. But who am I? I’m somebody who grew up in New Jersey & California, attended law school in Oregon & studied at Cambridge at England, and then came back to the United States, and settled in Washington, and I’ve been practicing law there ever since. I didn’t take any science in college. I took a couple of AP classes in high school, but I took no science at the undergraduate or graduate level, certainly no physics. Yes, I’m psychic, but would I be psychic enough to have been able to put together, through psychic synthesis, all of those discreet facts? – Dr Stirling Colgate, his nickname ‘Stir’, his academic association with the New Mexico Institute of Science & Technology, its location in Socorro, NM, his status of both Department Chair & University President, the location where the Aerojet Corporation facility use to be, next to the Research Library, the fact it was an Aerohet Corporation facility, the fact it was a secured facility and it was actually raised & now there’s a sunken – there’s a sunken area where the building stood where they were performing high-energy physics.

The fact that before I went on that trip with Dixie in September of ’04, I caught Aerojet in a lie when they told me that they had never had a facility in Soccoro. And I found, in fact from people who had grown up there in Soccoro, & from Joy Thompson, & from the literature in the Research Library, that right where said that the Aerojet Corporation facility was, it had been in the early 1970s.

So, I am just sharing the anecdote to show that I created multiple proofs like this, with highly specific, strange esoteric facts, that I stated before I investigated the facts & proved that my memories were totally on target. And cohered exactly to the realities that were there.

It wasn’t Stirling Cunningham(?) [maybe meant to say Stirling Colgate], it wasn’t New Mexico Tech in Albuquerque… I put together all those facts. And all those facts ended up being deeply embedded in my memories, but also in the reality of these locations, where early in the 1970s, you would expect advanced applications in quantum physics, like time travel, to be experimented with. Like what? Try New Mexico Tech – a research college in the very State where all of this high energy atomic physics stuff was going on.

The bottom line is that I’m not lying – and, beyond that. One has to be totally unreasonable in their skepticism to not listen to the facts I’ve been sharing, now, for almost ten years. I did my first lecture in Portland, Oregon, to 40 friends on October 30th of 2004. Okay, so I’m already 11 years into this process. I hit the 10 year mark in October of last year (2014).

So, I’ve been sharing this in public talks, now, in four countries & over a hundred radio broadcasts & 10-15 TV shows, and I’m not making it up. Why would I harm my legal career? I mean, to be a lawyer, I had to get into law school, graduate from law school, study for the BAR, pass the BAR & somehow establish myself as a lawyer, which I did with no mentor-ship & no employment by anybody else. I became a lawyer as a result of hard, hard work that went on when I returned from England in ’95-’96, not to just pass the BAR, but to become established. I basically went to work for myself.

So, why did I put a valuable profession, and all of that professional status at risk by telling strange stories about time travel & Mars visitation? The reason I’m sharing this information is because its true, because I love my country, I’m proud of what I did & because the people of the United States & the people of the world, as part of the common heritage of humankind, have a right to know what the greatest country on Earth has done, with the ideas of its greatest philosophers, scientists & technologists.

John B: Andrew, I have just one last question. I just have to ask this: Has this brought you nearer to god, or farther away?

Andrew D Basiago: Well actually, I must admit, somebody’s always asked their religion when they run for President. I was raised as a Roman Catholic, but I’m not a practicing Catholic. I describe myself as a non denominational Christian, in the sense that I never lost a child’s faith that Jesus was who the Bible describes. Because in 1972, my dad to Connie Chavez & I to a film viewing at Sandia that was depicted about 20 minutes of film footage, whereby 16mm film-stock had recorded a holographic rendering of the crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth. And it resembled, it depicted, the biblical account that we found in three of the gospels down to the letter, beyond what DiLorenzo or Steven Spielberg could invent. So, I know that Jesus was a real person, that he died on the cross after great suffering.

The reason I never left my childhood faith in his divinity, is that when we were leaving that viewing, my dad said, “Connie, I don’t know why you’re acting like this?” She was all over the place, trying to avoid even looking at the screen. And she said, “Ray, they were crucifying my Lord…” She was a very devout Catholic for her whole life in Old Town Albuquerque. And she said, “How do you think I could feel, they were crucifying my Lord, Jesus Christ on the Cross. And he said, “Yes, Connie, but my team also has footage, that three days later, there’s a burst of light in the crypt, and Jesus stands up & angels appear & help him push the rock away. And she said, “Really, Ray?” And this was to the woman that he first wanted to marry before she married her high school boyfriend. So this was my dad’s first major love interest in his life, the woman he dated before he married my mom – so a woman he really cared about, and his fifth child who he had involved in a Defense Technical Project where new, dangerous & experimental activities were going on, which could have cost me my life. So he was proud of me & he wasn’t going to lie to me. He was also a man of integrity.

So, my dad said to Connie, “So, I don’t know why you were acting like that, because we also have film footage of the resurrection. Jesus did resurrection.” In fact, he said, “It was so startling to the guys in my team when we found it & we were looking at it, that even some of the guys who weren’t even practicing Christians were saying things like, 'Praise be to god.' Or, 'Jesus lives! Look, he resurrects!'”

Okay, so that’s one of the reasons, by the way, that many at the CIA became ‘born again Christians’. Some of them, in fact, had become untoward in the sense that their Dominionist Christians who would like to make Christianity our State religion. I oppose that because I support the separation of church & State, and I support the First Amendment, ban on the establishment, or the prohibition to free exercise of religion.

But in answer to your question, I had to have faith in god to withstand my time travel experiences, because in order not to panic, or develop exposure in the field, or suffer existential panic, I had to remember that anywhere I would go via time-travel was to a quantum environment where god had already been.

But then in the program, my child’s sort of Catholic faith in Jesus’ divinity was reinforced. Because my own father, who was a man of truth & an honest man, a man who I never found in a lie, or was caught in a lie, actually bore witness to his eyewitness account of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

So, I’m not saying this to proselytize any of your listeners. But I’m simply saying that that’s what I witnessed in my life, and that affected the religion that I have today, which is that of a Christian.

John B: Well, I have to say that is about as good as it gets. Andrew Basiago, I got to tell you this has been a fabulous conversation & hope we can continue it again in the near future.

Andrew D Basiago: I do too, John, so thank you so much for having me today. I really appreciate it.

John B: As we get closer to 2016, we’ll definitely be in touch. Maybe the American people are more willing to be enlightened that we even think.

Andrew D Basiago: I think they are, John. I have more emails than I can answer.

John B: Excellent. If something breaks, reach out, if we don’t reach out to you first. Andrew D Basiago.