Re: What is nar really?
Hunter: "PS: No name-calling please for I need to know Ed without either of us clouding the issue through drum banging."
Ed: Hunter, this is so very rich coming from you.
I am simply seeking and pointing out truth. I see no evidence from the body of scripture and also in 2014 reality that the gifts, God's living voice spoken into the hearts of His children or the Lord's apostolic system have ceased, and millions of testimonies of people doing today what the apostles did 2000 years ago attest overwhelmingly to this on all counts. It's only blind, cherry picking carnal minded interpretations of the scriptures and willful ignorance to these millions of testimonies that would make anybody believe as the cessationists believe. I have no personal agenda here and only wish to seek and speak Spirit and Truth, both biblical and that which is backed up by what millions of people, myself included, can testify to as reality.
Bible apostles have been made into idols by cessationists, propped up high on a pedestal and the same Hypocrite cessationists despise and hold in contempt modern apostles who are equally passionate for their Lord as their predecessors were and who do the very same acts.
In Matthew 23 Lord Jesus said, 29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, 30 and say, ‘If we had been living in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partners with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves, that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of the guilt of your fathers. 33 You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell?
Modern day pharisees (today's cessationists) are abjectly blind to the reality that the book of "Acts of the Apostles" is still being written in heaven and these stubborn hearted blind hypocrites simply do not have eyes to see Truth. Carnal minded religious people who do not experience God in Spirit and Truth have always despised God's true chosen servants in their current time, true servant's of the Lord who do experience Him in Spirit and Truth, but their religious descendants with the same Hypocritical hearts say they would never have done these things. Both then and now, they honor(ed) and even worship(ed) past prophets (and now past apostles in the bible), placing them on a pedestal and Hypocritically saying, "we would never have treated these true servants of God as our forefathers treated them", while despising the modern ones, figuratively spitting in their faces and looking for every possible opportunity to persecute them.
nar is a phenomena that simply represents something that cessationists despise which is the knowledge that gifts, God's living voice and the Lord's choice for a body that includes apostles all never ceased. It's not a perfect system since man has touched it, just as the original apostolic system was not perfect... and people do make errors, but at least, unlike cessationism, it does correctly embrace these foundational truths.
Those with eyes to see, let them see.