I was using a Clark zapper with pads through the torso and a DC zapper through the torso with a double-pole-double-throw switch to reverse polarity every 5 minutes. I expected to see some results. My assumption was that the same wrist method was the problem. I do have a Clark zapper also. All that plus 2 Beck zappers overnight and Beck zappers during extreme cardio. I could say many other things I do also. A guesstimate would be that I have been hiv positive over 5 years due to the low tcell count of 80. Unlike many, I really tested this theory and I was ready to spread the word if it works. It may be doing something, since I have a lot more energy but as far as hiv numbers, it sure does not look like it does much there at all. If this stuff worked, I'd tell everyone and to hell with the FDA. It Might be doing something, as energy is up a lot. Anyone that attempts to zap hiv should use 2 zappers and honestly, as of what I know now, that will still not do the job.