um im not sure how i got it to be honest because it came quite gradually starting with the middle of my top lip and now has spread to pretty much everywere, i did the candida test because on alot of sites it said 'check you dont have candida yeast overgrowth'i did the spit in a glass of bottled water in the morning test which seemed to suggest that i had it and then had a swab at my docs and that also came back positive, il look through you recent post now. at the moment im using a cream called 'daktacort' which is 'miconazole nitrate 1%, hydrocorisone 1%' and it really does hide the problem and my lips loop completly normal but i dont think its a cure, i reckon it just controls it.. im gonna look through your recent posts now and comment back soon! i dont think il see a derm for a while due to being on the NHS will probly take a few weeks or months even. thanks guys appreciate it!