Everything I've read on this forum was coming from people who were making only one way. Everything in our life we have to do in two ways to achieve balance. I read of many people who were taking heavy medications for fungi and really were not healed at EC. As I said in my post below, everything must be done with balance, is useless take many probiotic to attract good, since you also need to destroy the bad. Kill the evil and bring good, just do it, and I think that only by natural means that you will get.