Re: Soy:Weston A Price Fondation Tragedy and Hype

Unsatisfactory response. Highly Entertaining, as most of your rants always are, but still unsatisfactory. Which is another reason why you lost the debate in the liver flush forum. 

I guess you still do not understand the basic concept of debate.  Once again, in a debate the person takes a position and provides evidence to back that position as I consistently did and thus won the debates.  Simply telling me I am wrong without any proof and calling me names since the "liver flush" supporters had no evidence to back their claims means they lost the debates.

All the "ROTFLMAO"s, "LOL's", and derisive reference to "liver flush supporters" won't change the facts.  20% of the country's soy production goes directly to feed cattle. An animal that has no natural affinity for soy is consuming 20 percent of the country's soy production? Follow the money. It is obvious beef and dairy industries are in collaboration with the soy industry in order to get the cheapest possible feed for their cattle:

As usual you are wrong again.  My family has a cattle ranch up north and I have worked on a dairy farm so I know what they feed the cattle.  As I pointed out in my earlier post this includes cottonseed meal, fish meal and hay.  Since you claim soy is the cheapest feed lets compare prices:

Soybean meal is $520-530 per ton:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/392848635/HIGH_QUALITY_SOYBEAN_MEAL_WITH_BE...

Cottonseed meal is $180-250 per ton:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-tp/121077489/Animal_feed_for_Protein_Meal_Cott...

Fish meal is $400-450 per ton:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/277302522/fish_meal.html

And ever hear of "corn fed beef"? Corn is $180-260 per ton:

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/503863786/Lower_Price_Higher_Quality_18_Pro...

And hay is less expensive than all these feeds per ton.

So as we can see soy is the most expensive of the common feeds for cattle, not the cheapest as you falsely claimed.

And look at this:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080729185600AApEiPI

 

What percentage of soy and corn crops are fed to livestock?

80% of corn, 95% oats, altogether 56% of all agriculture inU.S.A. land used for beef production. 260 million acres of forest have been cleared for meat-based diet. "Divine Nature" a book by Michael A. Cremo & Mukunda Goswami - this book can be found inLibrary of Congress

 

 

 

"Massive US Government Subsidies for GE Soybeans"

http://www.organicconsumers.org/gefood/govtsoyloans.cfm

This is another propaganda site, the Organic Consumers Association.  Do you have anything credible?

"So cows injected with rBGH produce "BGH laden milk" to suit your arguments but...Pesticides administered to soy beans don't produce "pesticide laden soybeans"?

Again, where is the proof that any of that ends up in the soybeans?  And why does it matter if the pesticides are produced by the plant through GMO or sprayed on the plant where they are taken up by the plant through the roots and leaves? "

I don't want to give you the priviledge of crying for "evidence" when you are failing to address reality so why don't I just shut you down completely:

"Discovery of Bt insecticide in human blood proves GMO toxin a threat to human health, study finds

Learn more:http://www.naturalnews.com/032407_Bt_insecticide_GMOs.html#ixzz1e5tlOzuN"

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