Re: pH of "liver bile" or "gallbladder bile" + "mixers"...Re: Bile in the Colon: Carcinogenic?

This thread is becoming a bit worrisome to me, as I'm thinking there may be some people starting to think that normal bile from a normal gallbladder could be carcinogenic.  Yikes.

Of course, when the gallbladder is removed, bile directly from the liver drips 24/7 into the intestinal tract,

I was not referring to minor dripping.  I was talking about the sudden release of large amounts of bile from the ingestion of a lot of fat or oil in the diet after the gallbladder is removed.

and if that alkaline bile is not mixed with stomach acid

Stomach acid is neutralized by bicarbonate as soon as it exits the stomach.

or suitably diluted/neutralized, it can be caustic due to it's alkalinity.  And that could surely lead to cellular mutation...no argument there.

The pH of liver bile is about 8-8.6, while
that of the gall bladder is around 7.
 

How do you explain the fact that bile reflux can not only cause gastritis but also esophageal ulcerations due to the alkalinity?  Then there is the difference between colon pH and bile pH.   Colon pH is 5.5 to 7, so acidic to neutral.  Bile on the other hand as you have shown is basic.    Now a lesson on pH.  On the pH scale of 0 to 14  each factor of 1 increases the alkalinity or acidity by a factor of 10.  For example, a pH of 1 is 100 times more acidic than a pH of 3 (a change of two on the  pH scale equals 10 X 10, thus 100).  A pH of 14 is  100,000 times more alkaline than a pH of 10.    Now lets look at the average pH levels of both the colon and bile.  The average pH of the colon is  roughly 6 while the pH of bile is roughly 8.  So we find that bile is therefore 100 times more alkaline  than the average pH of the colon.  Why people would think that such a drastic pH change could not  cause problems is beyond me unless they simply do not understand how the body works.    And yes, the bile is going to be altered somewhat by things such as flora acids.  But again, I was   talking about a sudden large amount of bile being dumped in to the intestines, which would   overwhelm any buffering system.    It is hilarious though how all the "liver flush" supporters gang up together to vote "agree" on any   message any other "liver flush" supporter posts regardless of how misleading or outright wrong the information they posted is.