Re: HIV/ lymphoma help needed fast!!

 which is foremost of all an informational site.

Could have fooled me.  Only a few studies that show it works against SOME cancer cell lines in a petri dish, which DOES NOT correlate to inside the human body.  So in short NO evidence that oleander (Sutherlandia OPC) works for cancer within the human body.  So the only information provided was the fact than Sutherlandia OPC is unproven as a cancer cure in the human body.

I could have provided links to the studies,case reports, articles and so forth outside my site, but I have them all consolidated in a single location. 

And again where are the studies that show the product works for cancer outside of a petri dish?  As I pointed out air will kill cancer cells in a petri dish, but breathing is not going to cure cancer.  It is a massive jump in conclusion to assume that because something works in a petri dish that it will do the same thing in the human body.

The study in the post I made above was a double blind placebo controlled study of human participants, which you chose to ignore.

I clicked on the medical abstracts one by one and did not see one that was not out of a petri dish.  Any articles on such a propaganda site I ignore because the writer will slant the article in their opinion, like you do with the research I post.  So I am not going to waste time reading opinion pieces.  If you have the actual study to present I will review it.  But it will also be interesting to see if the manufacturer funded the research.  This is a common tactic done by pharmaceutical companies to make sure their drugs appear effective.  They simply design the test to do what outcome they want.

It might also interest you to know that two patented oleander extracts are currently in FDA human trials.

So what?  Endostatin went through FDA testing and was even approved even though the drug does not work.  The studies were manipulated to make the drug appear effective as I reported on previously.  And this is not the only drug that was FDA approved that was later shown to be worthless.  Back in 1969 the FDA was Court ordered to remove 710 prescription drugs from the market, most of them due to the fact that they were found to be worthless. So if you think being in FDA trials impresses me it does not.  And this does not mean they will be approved anyway.

BTW, for your edification - proper breathing can be instrumental in helping kill cancer and other illness.

By the way that is a stretch.  Increasing oxygen levels DOES NOT kill cancer cells as I have provided evidence to previously.  But of course anyone can make the stretch that every person that has ever been cured of cancer had breathed so therefore this helped cure their  cancer. On the other hand everyone who developed cancer had also breathed.  But since you asked me to provide proof from John Hopkins and Mayo earlier so you would accept it show me proof of your claims from these medical journals since you should play by the same rules.

I hope you do a much better job than the research you provided when you attempted to prove that pancreatic cancer was a viral induced cancer.  

LOL!!!  I said there was a link and I posted proof of the link.  What was that you were saying about putting words in people's mouths?  Oh that's right, Tony feels he can do whatever because he is above the rules and therefore does not have to abide by the same rules he preaches.

You listed three reports/studies.  One involved TWO patients where pancratic cancer and a virus were found together and the other two links merely related viruses to increased incidences of pancreatic cancer.  In no way did either of the links provide any evidence whatsoever that most pancreatic cancer was caused by viruses. 

First of all we are talking about a link, which was proven.  And the sources pointed out the increased risk of pancreatic cancer with several viruses including hepatitis B and C viruses.  You have to actually read the links to know what they said.  But the evidence to this is much stronger than the petri dish studies you claim prove show oleander works when that is not what the studies show.  

And you would lecture me on research skills?

Oh yes!!!!  You have clearly demonstrated the need.  But I guess I will also have to teach you how to understand studies while I am at it since this appears to be another skill you severely lack.

Observation: being blatantly sarcastic and pompous and attempting to put other posters down with denigration does not go far in winning debate points or endearing other members - nor does it serve the original poster or this forum or website.

So why do you keep doing it and even worse allow others to do this as a moderator even though the posts clearly violate TOS?  it is like the poster who called me a nutcase and you left that post, as well as other TOS violating posts, up while hiding mine.  And you yourself have violated TOS so many times with your attacks and insults it is not even funny.  But of course you still think that as a power abusive moderator that you are above the same rules you preach that others need to follow.