its funny, for at least a year I took exactly your position in a family battle over treating another family member and myself. I thought I could get metals out without chelation supps. I tried lots of different options, but in the end, I was wrong, nothing worked until cutler protocol/Rife treatment combo. then the metals came dumping out. so I understand where you are coming from. I fought for that same position for a long time. luckily for me, my wife was more stubborn that I was and made me do chelation, with a bit of nudging from another CZ member...