Re: --What a Disgrace to curezone--hv Condeming Grz(edit)

lol Ciscokid! Why should we except any testimony from you after all HV calls all our personal testimonials lies! You people really should stop obsessing over whats going on here and keep your ministry of truth to its own forum instead of going around and condemning others! It seems to me HV has created a sickness in his followers!

edit: Your testimonial although I am not disputing it is rather premature, as it looks in your posting history you have only been posting at The Ministry of Truth forum for a few days! Come back in a few months and tell us how well HVs advice works out!


CK response:


I felt I would respond to this particular post separately. Not that I feel obligated to respond to the poster, but if provides opportunity to articulate a few things.

I've been on CZ for approx 2+ years. Several months ago for instance HV offered to email a paper on female hormone balancing to anyone. I asked and he sent it to me. It ended up being a superb acquisition. Before engaging with any protocol, I do homework. This is an understatement. My wife is a liver transplant recipient. She has had 5 total joint replacements and we are staving off #6 through hard work. Suffice it to say my wife, rather we, have a myriad of complex issues that we work through, too lengthy to detail. We are extremely aggressive and researched before doing anything via a health protocol. I have hardly scratched the surface of what we have done, endured, learned, pursued, over 17 years.

More to the point in answer to this particular post... I haven't posted very much into HV's forum but have read into it for several months. As I do several others. But why should that matter? I find this post above particularly offensive because I am getting grilled, admonished, lectured, on top of several negative associations that I have nothing to do with, and I haven't even asked a question yet?? "You people" as the poster says? What do you mean "you people"? I just popped in when I happened across a post that stated HV had no positive testimonials. I offered two. Both of which were initiated several months ago and have had direct very positive outcomes. I always sing praise of anyone who offers information that I then take responsibility for, research well beyond what I could express, before it ever gets near the a very complex medical environment that is my wife.

My informal question by the way was going to be concerning the expression of long term use of prednisone and its related myriad of complications, not the least being its suppressing of the adrenals and parathyroid which crushes calcium uptake, its coindicated effect on Vitamin D production and storage, the potential over-reaction of OTC calcium dosing which appears to have led to hair loss... and I was interested to continue to learn about in our case, a slow approach to an alkaline balancing protocol which appears to be a correct pursuit and advocated here, but we have to be very careful in terms of contraindications towards her immunosupressants (Prograf) due to concerns towards its affect on the T lymphoctye-antigen substrate. And this hardly begins to articulate the complexity of what was to be a question. But I am very reserved about it now given the lecturing and negative culture that might emerge, and I haven't even asked anything yet.

Everyone has a story, but would submit that jumping down someone's throat without know even a sliver of a backstory is premature, and counterproductive. Note that I chose to response to this particular post because it was exceptionally harsh and it provided opportunity to put out a smidge of backstory, as well as respond to what really surprised me... why all the lecturing at me when I haven't even asked a question yet?

Know that others in this thread have been much kinder in their welcoming here and I appreciate that. I admit to really being back on my heels tho, before I have even asked anything.