info +edit/apology Re: What can I use to support my HC withdrawl?

Maggie (everybody) -

I was just getting ready to go to bed and thinking about how I could help you best.  And when I was reviewing your posts/my responses in my head, I realized immediately that I owe you a BIG apology for being so "blunt" and coming across so harshly. 

That's not really "me" at all, but is kinda "me".  I am SO mad and angry at the system and the Powers That Be that caused/worsened your illness; and I'm just as mad & angry at money-hungry 'alternative medicine' with their own same breed of "pushers & drug dealers" and "science & scientists".  I just want SO badly for people to immediately see/know what it took me years to learn, and I want to somehow "shove it all into their head & heart NOW!" so they can be WELL FASTER.  Then like a frustrated parent (when they're worried/concerned), I get LOUDER.  But that doesn't help heal anybody; it doesn't help anybody 'want' to learn....and there's really no excuse for me falling prey to that.  So I hope you'll accept my apology...and know that as you read this, my "loud" actually means "I really care a LOT".

Unyquity

I am withdrawling from Cortef cream and would like to know what I can use to support my adrenals.  If you would have read the past post I linked you to in the post I posted to you yesterday here:  http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1372970    you would already know the answer to that.   sigh.  

Here's the answer:

And lastly (but VERY importantly), at *least* 1 Tablespoon of Ashwagandha root powder daily (2-3 is probably better). This is likely THE best adaptogenic adrenal balancer on the earth (and it promotes sound sleep!). And if you responded well to steroids (I think I recall you saying that), this is going to be a Godsend to you. It tastes TERRIBLE, but it doesn't matter. When you see the information in these links, I'm sure you'll want to order some asap. It's currently out of stock at Mountain Rose Herbs, but my back-up source for Ashwangandha is Starwest Botanicals, here's the link:
http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/category/bulk-organic-herbs/

(If you order it, make SURE to get organic - this is primarily grown in India, and they still use DDT in India). And please don't get any type of 'standardized extracts', there's way too many active ingredients in this herb for 'science' to play their guessing game at which is most effective. Our natural bodies need the plant in it's natural form.

Here's a few links on the efficacy & benefits of Ashwagandha on the adrenals/hormones/stress:


http://www.ayush.com/common/news/printable.asp?task=store_news&SID_store_...


http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/newsletter/07/september/adapt.html


http://www.ayurvediccure.com/ashwagandha.htm


http://intelegen.com/nutrients/stress_cortisol.htm

Maggie, before I go any further, I'm going to have to clarify something that I thought I clarified very clearly in my post to you yesterday...but apparently I didn't make clear enough.  On this forum and 'haven of healing', there's likely no more knowledgeable, supportive and helpful people anywhere on CZ.  Most everyone is doing some version of the same protocol (the one that the greatest healers of all times have used)...and everybody (including myself) are VERY willing to help.  We've all walked down similar pathways - finding that allopathic medicine is dangerous (and makes us worse), and alternative medicine/NDs and any "healing" or "Truth" based ON allopathic medicine is also risky/non healing (and because it's not covered by insurance) can cost thousands of dollars out of pocket (without healing anything, and generally making things worse).  You are MORE than welcome to be a part of this family, but you're going to have to research, read and learn so that you can be safely responsible for your own health and healing (just like every other person has done or is learning to do).  If we're going to be our own doctor (safely & effectively), we have to LEARN things we don't already know. 

It seems to me that for two long years you've been asking questions and taking everyone's advice (including MDs & NDs), but you've continued to worsen.  If you want to turn that around (#1 rule on this forum) you have to STOP doing what makes you sick, and start doing what makes you better...and please forgive me if I'm not discerning correctly, but it seems to me that one of the main things you're doing wrong is not learning & researching and then questioning the advice you've been given (on CZ, or by MDs/NDs).  I realize (like I mentioned before), that most everyone has fallen into that pit...but YOU are the ONLY person that can change that.  Yesterday I created a post that took (in total) almost 5 hours of my time...but it appears you read none, or very little :(

This is the ONLY forum on CZ that is 100% natural in nature and doesn't use some kind of supplement or methodology/protocol with the potential to cause harm...and is based on the works of THE most successful natural healers of this century.  So read through all the links I offered you before, and then decide if this method of healing is something you want to do (as I suggested yesterday)...and THEN, if you DO decide this makes sense to you, we'll all be MORE than willing to help you.

I have a problem with most ascorbic acids I think it is because my mucus membranes are weak and everything burns in my stomach and my bladder and then I get inflammation. Read this (it's not long), on the dangers of Vitamin C: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/398167/VitaminCunknown.txt and THEN, think of this...if Vitamin C is THE safest and most innocent of supplements, just how dangerous are all the other supplements you've been asking about on CZ for the last few weeks?  Our bodies are NATURAL, they respond best to things that are NATURAL.  Ever see a supplement bush?  NO!  That's because healing does NOT come out of a bottle!  It never EVER did.  There's no disease in the world that's caused by a "lack of drugs" or a "shortage of supplements"...so if that doesn't cause disease, how can it HEAL disease.  It can't.  They will only put a piece of duct-tape over the symptoms.  But just like putting a piece of duct tape over the 'symptom' of an oil light on your dashboard, covering up the symptom without treating the cause WILL cause even more problems.  I see (below) that you're beginning to understand that.  You took Klonopin to cover up the symptom of insomnia, and now you're addicted.  Not only did it not work, the withdrawal is going to be (likely) very unpleasant and harsh.   I have low to normal cortisol mornings and then high cortisol afternoon and evening.  Yes, everybody with adrenal issues has levels of cortisol that are "off".  If you want to heal them, then answer ALL the questions in post I posted yesterday...so that we can get down to the CAUSE of the problem and start actually healing.

I really (really!) want to help you in any way I can, and giving people 'solid truth' is the only way I know how to do it (and that's effective).  I'm not an ogre-ess (lol), I just take the business of healing VERY seriously! :)

Thanks,
Maggie

From your post on another forum:

I am trying to be careful because I am weaning off of the Hydrocrotisone today should be last day at 1mg.  Am I understanding (from other posts) that your original dosage was 2mg, and you're cutting 1 mg at a time from that.  If so, that's WAY too fast!!

I am also on klonopin because the doctor gave it to me for sleep and now i am so scared that I didn't know how bad it is and want off of it but don't want to wean off of too many things at once since I have adrenal exhaustion. I am not doing well. I have lost so much weight. Everytime I try and cut back to .25 Klonopin I have to take something else to try and get some sleep like L-trytophan. Cutting .25 off a .50 dosage of Klonopin is way WAY WAY TOO MUCH, TOO FAST!  The most you should EVER cut from a benzodiazepine is 10% of the dosage (at least, until you KNOW you can handle 10%, and then you can cut bigger percentages if you want to/can). Everytime I try to cut down on the klonopin at .25 (please stop cutting such a huge percentage until you've learned more about benzodiazepines!  If you cut too fast, you can cause symptoms that last for YEARS) I don't sleep and it makes my adrenals worse. THE most typical symptom of benzo addiction & withdrawal is insomnia. I am hoping I can get off of this. You CAN, but you have to fortify your body with lots of NATURAL nutrition, and it's very likely you don't even want to consider withdrawing off TWO insidiously addictive poisons at the same time! Do you know of any things to combine with klonopin that are natural sleep aids? There's many things you can try (or I could suggest) but anyone making suggestions without getting the answers to all the questions I asked you yesterday is being irresponsible (at best) and cause great harm (at worst). or can you direct me to a place to find out. I go to an accupunturist, but she says she can't get involved since an ND put me on it. I notice even trying to wean off of the HC my kidney area hurts and if feels like I am getting a bladder infection. I get up 3 times in the middle of the night to pee. Frequent urination is a very common side-effect of benzos, as well as many other things. I really need to find a good herbalist or someone to help me with this.  It seems like what you NEED is to start learning to take responsibility for your OWN body & health

Maggie, there's never been a person I haven't been able to help (using the time-honored protocols of Dr. Schulze & Dr. Christopher)...and I know a lot of things that can help you...but I need your cooperation to go about this sensibly and responsibly (so you don't put your body through any more stress or cause any more harm).  I am SURE that if you continue to jump from "CZ expert", "forum to forum", and "ND to ND" (or whatever) that you'll continue to worsen.  And now that you've got 'benzo involvement' (between me and Anne_33), I really honestly feel there's no better place for you to start learning than here.

So, if you want to have all our help, then please get back to me with a detailed reply to yesterdays post, STOP cutting the drugs until you're stable where you are, and read through all the links I've given you.  It's okay (really!) if you don't want to subscribe or utilize truly natural healing...but if you're going to keep asking questions, I am a forum owner that insists you read the answers I offer. 

Big hugs & healthy blessings :)

Unyquity