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Analogies and Parables are confusing.


Is enlightenment possible? Between Jesus and Adi Da there is not one recorded other westerner that was Enlightened!

And who is it that is keeping this record? Who is recording these statistics?  Must be the Master of all Masters. You are talking absurdly. It is fine that you have found your Adi Da...It is only natural that your master must be the top master, the only one that has come since Jesus Christ. But really have a look at this, this is nothing but  your ego making this claim, talking its nonsense.

 


I dont know of any others and you havent indicated you know of any. And I didnt say he was the only one, only that he was the only one in the western world that anybody gave some creedance to being Enlightened. In the East there have been many.

 

I  It is true for you, it works for you, but to say that there is nobody else on this planet that others can find to trust for themselves is absurd, you are talking like a fundamentalist –its extremism.


There have been others in the east but presently I dont know of any alive that are true siddhas capable of generating powerful shakitpat. Anyone can talk the talk. There may be a few. And not all enlightened beings function as Gurus.

 

What is effort?

The day you were born, your nose was clear, relaxation with yourself was an easy and natural thing. Breathing free, easy--no effort needed.
  Initially effort was needed- to place the finger up the nose.

 

 

Then when it is understood, the method is not longer needed. One stops accumulating knowledge, one understands that it is not  needed any longer. The growth process continues on.

 

If you cannot explain what it is you ARE TRYING to say straight on without analogies or parables no one is going to understand what you ARE TRYING to say. You sort of hint at the truth when you say,

"Then it is understood, the method is not longer needed.On stops accumulationg knowledge,one understands that it is not needed any longer.  "


The method   that is not needed is ordinary meditation based on effort or seeking. When you abandon seeking you fall into grace or satsang.

Then you go back to,:the growth continues on". Which implies you should take up the search again. But in Radical Understanding one always Understands and does not Seek. There is no growth only the illusion of growth or ascent.

                                      

It is important to be able to explain what real meditation is and is not to one who wishes to begin it. Otherwise they will be lost in seeking and quit. Effort and seeking are not it. Only Radical Understanding is it.



 

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