Re: Common Sense Revisited - America at a New Crossroads

>> "Hellen Keller was helped by a government who provided services to her that you and all of the other Ron Paul worshipers would vote against. To thio\s day, the government you hate provides services to blind and deaf people people in every state in the Union." <<

Those programs are anti-constitutional... so do you believe the constitution should be retired? We do not follow it anyway. The problem here is people, over the last hundred years or so have given up their responsibilities to the government; in effect giving up their freedoms. People enrolled in these government programs are expected to meet certain requirements and follow them, or lose benefits, for one...

>> "When you and the rest of your gang of White Nationalists can't win through the voting booth and education, the so called "patriot movement" always wants to change the majority through violent oposition." <<

You are making a gross misstatement with the above generalization... it would be like calling all Liberals "x"... not true by a long shot.

>> "America may be full of ignorant people who are poisoned daily by the FDA but it is their choice to do so." <<

Not necessarily; perhaps they do not know better, having been taught by parents and a system of "experts" that have buried them deep into the pharm\medico\food industries its all good and safe for you indoctrinations. Don't worry, we're from the government and we are here to protect and help you.

>> "A better way than proposing a Civil War where millions of men, women and children will perish is through education." <<

Whether we see riots, civil war or not is irrelevant... people are going to suffer... the frail, disabled, elderly, non-amblatory, and sick will perish without familial support and help. How many families are dependent upon this "help" from the government? How many could do this in an economic crisis where their "government" services are cut and jobs lost? The natural world is unforgiving and less than compassionate towards the weak. It goes against what makes us human, however it will challenge those who SHOULD be fully responsible for their family members and neighbors; instead they have given much of that responsibility over to unconstitutional government programs. If we find ourselves in the midst of a huge infrastructure crash at some point, these folks will find themselves in a world of hurt.

People need to become responsible for themselves and families... perhaps people do not know how to do this anymore.

>> "The Ron Paul you constantly quote is a White Supremacist and is certainly not the hero you make him out to be. Most White people, if they knew about Ron Paul's writings in Racist and Homophobic Ron Paul Newsletters written in his name for twenty years, would be very wary of Ron Paul's hidden agenda." <<

These views on RP have been hashed out in the political debate form and have no foundation... One could argue that Obama is a Black Supremest and racist against "whites" with some of his penned statements in his books, and his choice of church and preacher... I could go on, however any blogger can get worked up over a written statement or two...

http://www.stentorian.com/Obama/

>> "If you are Black, Hispanic, Muslim, Gay, or Disabled, Ron Paul wants to take your Civil Rights away. Ron Paul consistently votes against minorities and the disabled." <<

Where do you come up with this garbage? He votes almost strictly along constitutional lines... the vast majority of the no votes were anti-constitutional programs and agendas... spending money... unfair taxation representation, etc. etc. In some ways, I would love to see this country crash. This would force people who have lived off of the government dole (other peoples money) to get with it, AND, care for their own or perish.

>> "He and his gang of White Nationalists couldn't win at the voting booth so they want to start a shooting war to get what they want. Look into the history of what Ron Paul proposes as the solution to America's problems. He was sponsored by White Supremacist groups." <<

There is support from these groups for Ron Paul... this does not make him a "White Supremest". They support him due to their common ground in wanting an U.S. Constitutional Government.

I know media coverage was vacant on the "Blacks against Obama Group" even though they were very vocal and held rallies during the campaign against him... their Florida presence being one of the most vocal... with no coverage. Interesting, no?

This should also be an eye opener for some...

http://www.stentorian.com/Obama/

>> "Tony Issacs is caught up in the Alex Jones/ Ron Paul White Supremacist Movement." <<

No, he isn't... anyone who takes a strong constitutional stand only "appears" to be this due to the anti-constitutional programs in government that constitution supporters disagree with, which happen to be programs that support (a system that promotes racism by the way) those who do not want to "work for it" or support themselves and family.

>> "It is easy to get sucked in but if you are among any of the groups who Ron Paul and Alex Jones would take away their Civil Rights, you might want to reconsider the call Tony makes for Civil War." <<

You have been sucked into a hole of lies. Of course you have... this post is evidence of it.

>> "He and his gang of White Nationalist have a bullet with your name on it if you are Black, Hispanic, Gay, Muslim, or Disabled." <<

Hogwash...

>> "In my opinion, your post should be moved to the Conspiracy Forum where you and your anti-semitic White Nationalist Ron Paul buddies hang out. Oppose murder as a means of changing government. The "Education instead of Medication" philosophy of CureZone has been usurped by murderers who lost at the voting booth and desire a Civil War to get what they want. Watch out when you come to CureZone. The White Nationalists will try to suck you into a cult of violence. Be wary of those proposing violence as the answer to the world's problem." <<

The lines between "conspiracy", "politics", "war", "health", etc. are becoming blurred as those who have been writing about their understood or preceived "truth" in these forums are more often than not, right.

The chip on your shoulder seems to be growing, and it seems to me, that people like you have a greater propensity for violence than someone like Tony, or others that are striving to become self sufficient in light of the pending economic and infrastructure collapse... I suspect, and will likely be proven right, that IF the whole government support structure collapses, that those who have become the most dependent upon the government for their needs will become the most violent overnight; rioting, looting, stealing and killing for their need\wants (where else are they going to get it?)... it is already happening with the increasing crime, and violent crime rates against those that are responsible citizens\humans. It has nothing to do with color, race, religious preference, etc. and everything to do with responsibility.

This is what you fail to see... racism has nothing to do with it... why do you hang on to this bitterness? Open your eyes... you have fallen into "their" hands like putty and are playing the role of "their" tool.

grz-

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