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What would I tell people that are considering killing parasites? When I first started, I was gung-ho, thinking everyone needed to kill them. I've changed my tune. Unless a person is willing to go the distance, be disciplined to stick it out when it gets rough, which it does many times along the way- and is willing to pay the money it may take to hit them as hard as they need to be hit (especially if the infection is found to be a large one, with many different types of parasites).I, now, personally think it would be better to not even start than to get started and not follow through- not just with cleaning up the parasites and learning more about what all goes with them, but also not paying attention to the cleaning the liver and dealing with the toxins too.

Along with killing the parasites, elimination organs need to be working to clear things out; toxins need to be cleaned up; viruses and bacterias need to be addressed...it's not a quick, nor easy process. Getting a one month supply, and thinking that's all it's going to take--is probably the worst thing that people can do. Many times, you'll see people who discover they do have a load of them, get impatient, and frustrated because they want to KILL THEM ALL NOW!..and be "cured", and done with it. It doesn't work that way. Not everyone will have the same infections as someone else, but most people are going to discover they have different types of parasites, living in different organs of the body. The longer a person has been sick, and the more toxic they are, the worse the infection is going to be, and the longer it's gong to take to get cleaned up.

Some of the things I've discovered along the way:

Electronics, zapping etc. have made a big difference for me. It doesn't have to be expensive, tapping on a simple 9 volt battery killed ascaris in my liver. It sounds too simple (and cheap) to work, but I personally think it worked better for killing the ascaris than the actual zapper I later bought. Organisms are killed by certain frequencies, and tapping on the battery has a frequency of about 5 hz.

Put a square of wet paper towel on the tip of each index finger. Hold one index finger down on one of the 9 volt battery posts..and start tapping with the index finger on the other hand. It's important to do it for 7 minutes, rest of 20 minutes, tap for 7 minutes, rest for 20 minutes, and tap for 7 minutes.

If the tapping finger gets tired..just hold that finger on the post, and start tapping with the index finger (with the paper towel on the tip) on the other post.

Be sure to follow through with all 7 minute rounds. Don't get in the middle of it and stop.

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1087902


The Simple zapper my husband hooked up for me from the Hulda Clark instruction worked well too, and is also cheap and easy to assemble (not talking about the shoe box one)

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1089476

The Hulda Clark book "The Cure for All Diseases" is available PDF here on CZ.
http://www.curezone.com/upload/PDF/Cure_for_all_Diseases_Hulda_Clark_.pdf


This is what Hulda Clark says about the "Simple Zapper"
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1091382

I later bought the Parazapper Cca, with both the copper handholds, and the foot pads. It has both 30,000 hz and 2500 hz.

Now that I understand frequencies better, I can see why a Rife machine would be an important tool in all of this- but not cheap. In the long run though, it probably would have been less expensive to have the Rife from the start.
This is what I mean by different frequencies hitting different pathogens:
http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/FrequenciesandAnecdotes/CAFL.htm


Bob Beck tools can be bought at Sota Instruments- the SP Light that I got from there, for Blood Electrifying and making Collodial Silver- was $77 total, with shipping. It gets alot of use, especially with how Lyme causes blood to "flow like molasses".
http://www.sotainstruments.com/original/splite/

(Sorry, no longer available. The full-sized Silver Pulsar still is though.)


The ND's method for hitting them with herbs, is not one of timidity..it was aggressive, with having me use more than one product at the same time, and at dosages higher than what the label called for (depending upon what I muscle tested I needed for dosages) Thankfully, he had already started me on colon cleansing prior to me jumping the gun and starting with the parasite killing on my own. He also had me doing the Standard Process type total body cleanse/bowel cleanse several other different times too.


The Liver Dr Intestinal Parasite formula:
The Sandra Cabot's dewormer was what I originally started with- at the dosages she says--start with 1 capsule 3x a day, then after the first week go to 2 capsules 3x a day. Looking at it now, it looks like small doses of the herbs in it, but that's an important way to start--start with less and increase gradually.

However, I did immediately start killing parasites with it, namely flukes- I started seeing them in the toilet the next day (and for many days after that, day in and day out).

http://www.liverdoctor.com/index/php?page=shop&subpage=cat2&id=140


Barefoot's dewormer:
Several weeks after starting with the Cabot's dewormer, I also got the Barefoot dewormer...cheaper if 4 bottles are bought at a time. Click on the disclaimer, and then on products on the left..and then on "dewormer". Apparently, he used to make Dr. Clark's formulas for her.
The paper that comes with the 4 bottles, says that one of the things Dr Clark says to do for tapeworms..is take 4 TB, rest and hour and take 4 more TB. I did that more than once. The first time I did it, within a short period of time, I could literally watch my abdomen rocking and rolling. The next 2 days, I got what I'm sure were 2 large Ascaris Suum (pork ascaris).

I got to where I didn't measure it by tablespoons, I just took sips of it out of the bottle. If I felt them moving in the night, I would get up and take a couple of swigs of it too. I didn't go by his instructions for dosages.

http://www.barefootherbalistmh.com


For shipping out of the country, go through:
http://www.naturespices.com/products_and_prices


The ND had me continue to use those two products together for the first 3 months, until they no longer showed to be working for me in muscle testing. Even though most parasite killing herbs will likely have the 3 most common ingredients (wormwood, black walnut, and cloves), most of them have some kind of a different "twist" to it, and the other varieties of herbs make a difference.

I do think it's important to start out with smaller doses and work up, don't start right out with large doses, but from the way the Alternative Dr had me hitting the parasites, I also think one of the problems people have with taking herbal deworming products--is not increasing them and going by the dosages on the bottle. Or, just taking them for one month and stopping. Don't be afraid to increase the dosages and take more (if you first find you don't have an allergic type reaction with smaller doses)

Vaxa International- Parasitin (with homeopathics)

Vaxa International, Parasitin, was one that I also added after several months. It has homeopathics in it, and I had good luck with it--but it was one that my father had an allergic reaction to. In the information on the Vaxa site, it says Kamala and Granatum (Pomegranate bark) are two effective things for killing tapeworms--and pumpkin seeds stun them. Along with the homeopathics, Vaxa also has those ingredients.

http://www.vaxa.com/693.cfm

I know this is alot of information...I don't type posts, I type chapters.

Castor Oil:

I've found time and again, that some kind of an adjustment to what I was taking, hit the parasites from a different angle. One of the biggest surprises, was feeling the darned ascaris in my liver (bile duct) in the middle of the night--and usually when I felt them moving, if I would get up and take an extra dose of ozonated oil, it would make them stop moving. I was too tired one night- and reached over and got the bottle of castor oil I had by the side of the bed for the castor oil packs instead--and took a swig of it. Tasteless, odorless, cheap. Not only did I not feel the movement after that- but I was surprised to have roundworms in the toilet the next morning. I found, that taking 1 TB at bedtime, it doesn't cause the cleaning out of the bowels like it does if you take it in the AM on an empty stomach (which is something Andreas Moritz says can be done too). Undecylenic acid (found in castor oil) is also anti-fungal. I'm looking on the bottles of two different herbal deworming products the ND had me using, and undecylenic acid is in both of them.

Castor oil and sulphur were two things old-timers used to use for deworming families. It used to be a common thing to do.

After what I've experienced in hitting different parasites with different herbs...I wouldn't just do the straight Clark protocol and nothing else, or just take Barefoot's and nothing else, or just do the Humaworm protocal and nothing else. I really do think it makes a difference to keep at it, but make changes, and rotate.

The importance of liver flushing with killing parasites:

Time and time again, by doing liver flushes about 5 days prior to the New and Full Moon (every 2 weeks), and upping whatever I was doing for parasite killing- adding to it, increasing dosages...I have killed unsuspecting parasites that were exposed from cleaning stuff out of the liver- and that had their minds on something else. The moon phases are when they are supposed to be most active (mating etc)..I know, not a pleasant thought, but try it. I will never again look at a calendar without knowing exactly when the moon phases are coming up! It's not an old wives tale. Both Full moon, and New Moon phases.

The liver is too often over-looked with killing parasites. Not only do live parasites like flukes, dwarf tapeworm, and ascaris plug up bile ducts..but so do the dead parasite and candida debris. Liver flushing regularly is more important than people realize. Coffee enemas are another important tool I used for cleaning out dead parasite/candida debris from the intestines and liver.


Bowel Cleansing:

It is also very important to make sure the bowels are cleaning out regularly- several times a day. If you haven't done bowel cleansing, and haven't gotten mucoid plaque loosened up and removed--parasites are still going to be able to hide and lay their eggs. Same thing with not clearing out the liver with flushes- not only do the flushes clean out the dead parasites and toxins, but the parasites aren't able to hide when their boulders are moved out of the way. Consider it warfare. Take away their protective shields.
Standard Process Okra Pepsin, helps loosen the plaque so it can be eliminated. Along with that, he had me taking a product similar to Barefoot's Lower Bowel Balance, plus a fiber product (Fiber Fusion, first thing in the am, and at bedtime)
Alot of people use Schultzes Formula 1 and 2.

For alot of people, bowel cleansing in itself is not something they would stick with and stay consistent with. Some of this stuff is not pleasant, and takes self-motivation and self-discipline to stick with, but the number one thing is first making the conscious decision TO go the distance and be dedicated, no matter how long it may take, and how much more they may find is involved in the bigger picture.

The best thing the Alternative Dr told me, was "to expect it could take a good year or longer to get the parasites cleaned up in all their phases". The other thing that made a difference right off the bat was that there is always more that needs to be addressed to truly get cleaned up, and it's "like peeling layers to an onion". I found that to be true time and again with the parasite killing.

Some other things that work, that can be added to what people are taking for parasite killing herbals:

Elecampane:

Elecampane is a cheap herb that is known to kill ascaris/roundworms. Most information will say it's for respiratory...but ascaris and other parasites go through their cycles starting in the lungs. You'll find elecampane in Humaworm, but not many other deworming herbals...but- you can buy it yourself seperately and add it to what you are already doing too.

http://www.vitaminstuff.com/herbs-elecampane.html

>>>Recent studies support the ancient tradition of using elecampane to treat respiratory infections. Elecampane contains inulin, a phytochemical that coats and soothes the lining of the bronchial passages and acts as an expectorant in the body. Inulin helps promote “good” intestinal bacteria, which ensure regular bowel movements. Studies have also shown two other active ingredients in elecampane, alantolactone and isoalantolactone, to be useful in expelling parasites, including roundworm, hookworm, whipworm, and threadworm, from the intestine; this research supports the traditional use of elecampane for healthy digestion and parasitic infection.>>


http://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=elecampane


I've also found it at http://www.mountainroseherbs.com


Newport gave a source for cloves, that also has an artemisia annua (sweet annie type of wormwood) product that has elecampane in it:

http://www.knowledgeproducts.org/products/index.htm


Candida and parasites go together. Many of the products the ND had me using also had candida killing products in them too:

Neem:
Neem, or Neemseed oil (also found it at iherb), is also cheap, and surprised me for how effective it was. It also kills candida. You can also put it in your own caps and take it with whatever herbal product you are using.

Noni:
Noni Powder- was one that I tested for months that I needed to stay on. Come to find out, it, along with Neem and Artemisian, are what are best for hitting Babesia (malaria type co-infection of Lyme)
The one the ND had me use was very concentrated and was from:

http://www.supremeutritionproducts.com

It also has a powdered Neem product

Coconut oil:
Coconut oil--has caprylic acid, and lauric acid in it (which you can also take as a capsule alone too), which is used as an antifungal, but also kills parasites.
More information on it, and also a source for "Lauricidin":
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1403798


Oregano oil:
Oregano oil- I've used the "Oregacillin" from the ND, both the tablets and the oil- it's not cheap, but it's also anti-fungal/bacterial. I've also used Barefoot's, and a little bit goes a long ways! He has both Oregano and Olive leaf in with his liquid dewormer too.

Grapefruit seed extract info: (FDA must now be monitoring what they say for internal use. I've also found recently that apricot seeds are effective against cancer, but FDA will arrest people who sell them for that purpose)
http://www.pureliquidgold.com


Nutrabiotics has GSE, and also has one with the better type of wormwood in it- artemisia annua (sweet annie), and echinachea with it too.

http://www.iherb.com/NutriBiotic-GSE-High-Potency-CapsulesPlus-125-mg-90-Caps...


D-Limonene is oil from the skin of citrus. It's anti-fungal/bacterial. I was reading information that said it works for H-Pylori. This place also has P73 Oregano, and other good products.
https://www.longlifeunlimited.com/sunshop/index.php/action/item/id/324/prevac...


Allicin- found in garlic, was one the ND put me on when I had the oral surgery for wisdom teeth. Not cheap if you buy the actual allicin product, but more potent, and good for a number of pathogens.
http://www.allimax.us


Olive Leaf- (best to get 18% oleopurin)
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1342291

research:
http://www.eastparkresearch.com4e.html


Many of the herbal products the ND had me using, I would never have known about on my own. He is one that will only use good quality products/companies. An interesting side note--some of them, you would never know were meant for killing parasites, again, because of FDA.

Bromelain and Papain (and other proteolytic enzymes) taken between meals, and away from protein, will help kill tapeworms and ascaris, and also help clean up biofilms and cysts "hidden" from the immune system.

Zymex 2 (from Standard Process)- kills tapeworms and ascaris...and that's all it is, proteolytic, digestive enzymes. Many people have had good luck with it.

In my opinion, the proteolytic enzymes are far more important than people realize with killing the parasites, and cleaning up the dead stuff. Taking Bromelain or Bromelain/Papain, in between meals (and away from protein) and with whatever herbals I'm using, has helped to kill ascaris too.

They are also "systemic", meaning they don't just stay in the digestive tract for the purpose of breaking down proteins, they go into the blood stream to help clean up stuff too. They are used in many Alternative Cancer Therapies, and are one of the things that will clean up cysts left by different types of parasites. It's not just the tapeworms that are in cyst form. The other thing the proteolytic enzymes helps with, is the "biofilms" that go with the parasites, that they are able to hide behind.

A good post by Newport about that:
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1276095


http://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=proteolytic%20enzymes

has other mixes of "proteolytic enzymes", including blends with Nattokinase, and Serrapeptase, and Lumbrokinase.

The ND told me, that people shouldn't even start parasite killing, unless they are serious about sticking with it as long as necessary, and cleaning up organs (liver/bowels etc) and toxins too. He just told me recently, that if he gets a patient started killing parasites, and they stop in the middle of it- he won't start back up again with them. That's how adamant he is about keeping after them. He also told me that he won't even begin with a patient with candida, if they are not also willing to do the other clean-up too.

Different herbs are also needed for hitting pathogens like the different types of Lyme coinfections, bacterias, protozoans, mycoplasma's etc.

Nutramedix:

http://www.bionatus.com/nutramedix/pdfs/antimicrobialcompared_Bs.pdf

I found the Nutramedix products for a lower price here:
http://www.sament-low.com

(I've also recently found out that this same company is also on the FDA list of companies they are watching closely)


Good quality products to look into that the Alternative Dr had me using:

Intestinal Freedom: American Biologics
(No wormwood, but also has the same 3 proteolytic enzymes found in Zymex 2, plus herbs not normally found in other products)

http://www.vitaherbhealth.com/product-details.asp?vitamin=26&supplements=131



Quantum, or Premiere Rearch Labs:
http://healthproductsusa.net
Paracidin: Premiere Research Labs
Targeted flukes. He also had me taking it with the Systemic Formulas, VRM4 specific for flukes.

Parastat: Premiere Research Labs
Showed effective for me for months and months-- has no "normal" parasite killing herbs in it.

Botanifuge (says to keep rotating the product with Herbalfuge)--may have to get through professionals only: Professional Complementary Health Formulas
***found it online, with other products from companies that are known to have good quality products**

http://www.webnaturals.com/FunctionDX-Digestion-Parasites/c82_93_15/index.html


Phytofuge: NF Formulas-- I found it online in several different places, but this is one of them. It was one of the products that showed good for me when I was killing alot of candida too.
http://store.agoodvitamin.com/nffoph90ta.html


Para-Shield: Professional Solutions
http://www.gaiaherbs.com


Para-Gard: Integrative Therapeutics (not cheap)
http://www.integrativeinc.com


The VRM Products, from Systemic Formulas- were one of the products I used alot of, and they continued to test to be the products I needed specifically. None of these things were used at the dosages it says on the bottles...the dosages were all determined by how I muscle tested I needed them. Many times--it was much larger dosages. And with several products being used together at the same time.

You can read about Systemic Formulas here--they have protocals that go with the programs they are intended for- found in the ND's instruction books. They all also contain digestive enzymes, and you can read why in the Liver Triad information:

It tells about the products/uses/protocols. The ingredients listed, are far different than what will be found in other parasite killing products. Betel Nut, which is one used in Chinese Med. for killing ascaris, is found in the VRM2. Kamala, which is also supposed to be good for killing tapeworms, is in both the VRM2 and VRM4.

http://www.drjacktips.com/downloads/paraformguide.pdf


place to buy them online:

http://nelsonhealth.com/store.htm#parasites


Read the Wheelwright information here- go to the parasite section

http://www.healingyou.org/livertriad.pdf


VRM2 was what I was on for 5 1/2 months (!) for ascaris roundworms (and I'm also now reading that it also kills microfilarial worms, which are also nematodes that go with Lyme disease). The protocal calls for no red meat to be eaten during the duration of being on them. This information I found online doesn't say it, but the ND's manual said that the patient must first make a committment that they will follow the instructions for 90 days. It is taken in "cycles"...10 days on, 5 days off...but must be taken for the duration.


VRM4 is for flukes--and after months of not seeing flukes, thinking I was done killing them, I once again tested strong that I needed big doses of the VRM4 (and the Premiere Research Lab's product with it)--and sure enough, within the following week, I dumped a load of flukes again.

VRM 3--didn't show up as one I needed until after a full year of killing parasites-
It is for microbials.

VRM 1- never did show up as one that would be effective for me personally, but it's supposed to be for tapeworms etc.

VRM4 is also supposed to be for "head parasites", which, thank goodness, I haven't had to suffer with like many have posted about.


The ND told me that the worms go through cycles...you may think you have something totally killed off..and out of the blue you'll start killing them again..and what I found was not new hatchlings- it was still old parasites that had managed to stay hidden and survive.

I've killed different types of roundworms--"spaghetti noodle", thin, fragile- long ones (toxicara); very long, very thick, brown (looked like strands of twisted rope) ascaris suum- were just a couple of them. I thought the ascaris would never end. Feeling them in my liver was the worst thing!

Normally, I didn't freak out over things, but it was chilling to see the large ascaris eggs several different times after getting the night sweats from the ascaris eggs being released from a dying mother worm- just like Hulda talks about. Only one time, did I get one whole, plump white ascaris like you see the videos and pictures of. Most of the time, the round worms will come out partially digested and broken up-- and many of them were stained brown, which Humaworm also talks about.

I did the Hulda Clark "mop up" for tapeworms/ascaris 3 different times, with several months in between. I didn't stop taking the herbals with it. It was while doing the entire "Clark clean-up" that I killed the two, mean, tapeworms- 3 weeks apart. Make sure to get the "lightly ozonated", NOT the fully ozonated! I didn't buy an ozonator, but ozonated water is part of the Bob Beck protocal, and is also supposed to help lessen "die off".

http://www.ozonatedoilonline.com

it's shipped frozen, put it in the fridge when you get it. Not shipped during the summer months, it comes out of Canada.

I used harmaceutical grade CoQ10- found 600 mg (60 in a bottle) for $50 that worked well. I did not do one dose like alot of people think is what the Clark clean-up says to do. She says the sicker a person is, to do it every 5 days. I did it every 3rd day during the 3 week period of doing the entire Clark clean-up. Most people read this information, and don't see that she is mainly talking about cleaning up the cysts from tapeworms, and the ascaris eggs.

COQ10 needs to be taken with oil for it to be absorbed.
http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-CoQ10-600-mg-60-Softgels/7413?at=0


http://www.curezone.com/clark/ascaris.asp

I also got the L-Cysteine from iherb, but diabetics should not take it, and metals are almost always involved with this stuff- which L-Cysteine can cause problems with. What I've found time and again, is that focusing on taking something with the idea of it hitting one thing, can cause problems with something else in a different way. I did that taking large doses of MSM, which is a sulphur that is supposed to also kill parasites--it also stirred up mercury in the brain that I wasn't aware could happen at that time too.

The site Rosycrayon was talking about above, where she got the Traditional chinese herbs for Ascaris roundworms, is here:

http://hnmrc.net/pd904509701.html?categoryId=9

Betel Nut is traditionally used in Chinese Med. for killing ascaris:
http://www.satveda.com/product.asp?pID=76&cID=4&OVRAW=Catechu%20suppl...


Cloves:
O-W & Company Fresh Ground Cloves (also a wormwood blend, and black walnut)
http://www.naturalwebstore.com/brand-O-W+_AND_+Company.htm

Kroegers Cloves, and other Kroeger products:
http://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=kroeger


This one has also worked well, but notice it has no cloves, which should be added extra:
http://www.iherb.com/Planetary-Herbals-Wormwood-Intestinal-Detox-800-mg-120-T...

A product that both Dr Sutter, and Glaxony have said worked well for them, is Awareness Clear. It may be one that you have to get a "membership" to be able to purchase though:
http://www.supplements.awarenesslife.com/index.cfm?action=details&detail=...


I truly have been fortunate in finding the ND I did, because from what I've seen through many other people trying to find one that understands parasites and what we've found that I've had to deal with, not many ND's understand alot of this stuff either. Dr's definetly don't, and I'm honestly thankful that the MD's did NOT find any of this stuff. Homeopathics have been a big part of what the ND has been doing with me for hitting the viruses like the Epstein Barr, and Cytomegalovirus, and Coxsackie virus- all of which go with along with the parasites. Also the Lyme coinfections I didn't know have been something that have been active for 40 years, after being deathly sick from a tick when I was 8 yrs old.

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1399487


One thing too, and Hulda Clark talks about it, (but people over-look it as not being important)...with the parasites/bacterias/candida/viruses/lyme, and a compromised liver to go with them, ammonia is a problem. It's a known neurotoxin that crosses the blood/brain barrier.

The amino acid L-Ornithine is very important to be taking too. Ammonia that is not processed out through the liver/kidneys...backs up and settles in the brain, heart, and liver--and is a neurotoxin.
Some of the "symptoms" are insomnia, panic attacks, brain fog. A plugged up, sick liver, won't process out ammonia either. (Liver flushes/coffee enemas help open the liver so it can eliminate toxins)

http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1403172

Molybdenum for candida toxins (acetaldehyde):
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1368334

Glands are a whole other thing the ND has been working with me in getting balanced, and heavy metals were found to be a problem that needs to be dealt with.

It can look like a huge mountain to climb, when you do start finding out all the stuff that goes together that also needs to be addressed, but it's also very interesting to start fitting the puzzle pieces together too.

I think one of the most important things people can do, is to start researching and learning for yourself. Time and again, I see people blindly believing something is a fact because someone has told them that it is. Look into things for yourself, and don't let fear of any of this control you. Time and again, I have seen people become obsessive over finding out they do, indeed, have parasites. Everybody has parasites. It's when the body is compromised for whatever reasons that the parasites, and other pathogens, are able to get ahead like they do.

I understand alot more now, why my liver has not been functioning, toxins backing up, parasites finding my body to be a condo.. I can now recognize that it probably has been going on for years prior to having to finally have the gallbladder surgery from it only functioning at 5%.

There might be "alot of layers to this onion", but they are definetly all connected.

 

 
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