I havent tried the d-mannose because I was worried over the Sugar but since you recommend it - its worth considering. I do already have the solgar supplement here with the uva ursi so I could start taking it straight away. I am not in agony with pain - just slight burning in my kidneys and weeing alot (it doesnt even hurt when I wee) so maybe its not a really bad infection (although I dont know - I do feel poorly). I am prepared to put up with it longer for the sake of going the herbal route just so long as they work. My feelings are that even if I took Antibiotics the infection would come back because it is probably linked to the candida.