Re: Ultimate Zapper VS others

>- The credentials I present for Dr. Lloyd are those that are available on the internet.

Apparantly, there is more than one Dr. Richard Lloyd in the world.

At least I botherd to contact the source to verify and I reported what his comments were.

** "At least I bothered ... " ... There you go again being sarcastic. You are definitely a man with an attitude. According to you, your role on this forum has always been to provide objective information, and nothing more. According to you, you have no ax to grind, no commercial agenda. But you can't make a statement about The Ultimate Zapper or about me without showing that snide attitude of yours. I have made a number of mistakes on my site over the years. In the case of Dr. Loyd's credentials I have made an honest mistake and it will be corrected with next month's update. There's no shame in making an honest mistake if you admit it. You, mister know-it-all, make one mistake after the next on your site but I have yet to see one single mistake that I have pointed out to you either admitted or corrected. Making mistakes is part of the normal course of events in life. A man who is not able to admit them suffers from hubris. And a man who claims to have no ax to grind when he obviously has an ax to grind is not to be trusted when he claims to be telling "nothing but the truth".

>- In fact, there are no studies that I am aware of which show that a dual frequency or multi-frequency unit is superior to a single frequency unit.

When we originally started, we produced a single frequency zapper of 2000 Hz because we read it was better. We also produced one using both 2500 Hz and 30000 Hz which allowed the customers to choose which frequency to use. The ones who used 2500 Hz only got better results than those who used 30000 Hz only. Those who used both frequncy got much better results.

** As I pointed out above, this is not a study. These are anecdotes. The 2,000 Hz frequency of The Ultimate Zapper, combined with its other features, produces the most impressive results of any zapper available.

We would not have made the more expensive dual frequency zappers if they did not work better. The single frequency unit sold for $58 and then we sold the dual frequency for the same price.

** And I would not have created The Ultimate Zapper's formula if it did not work better. The Ultimate Zapper offers a formula that is superior to any other zapper formula on the market, bar none.

While he does not produce or sell them any more because of the FDA and the FTC, Dr. Lloyd's zapper was multiple frequency. Why would he do that if he thought your single frequency was better?

** The Multi-Zap did not have the same superior formula that The Ultimate Zapper features. So its formula was not as effective as The Ultimate Zapper's in spite of its supposedly superior dual frequency. Your question is posed in such a way that it puts the burden of proof on me for an implicit claim made by another zapper maker, according to you. That's a ridiculous argument. The burden of proof belongs with the zapper maker himself, not with me.

>- From someone who purports to be posting to this forum to give unbiased information, and nothing more, your biased attitude is quite obvious and belies your stated role of objective observer.

This is an exact reflection of you. I have stated nothing but the truth, although you are not willing to accept it.

** An exact reflection of me? So now you admit you are biased after years of pretending to be floating above this forum, setting foot on planet curezone to offer beads of wisdom to help the unsuspecting public. Only the naive would have believed that crock. I don't pretend to be unbiased and I never have. You have stated far less than the truth for years on this forum, disguised beneath the cloak of self-appointed authority which can speak "nothing but the truth". I believe that those who have read your pronouncements over the years can easily differentiate between opinions, claims and the truth. What I further object to is your sarcastic, patronizing, know-it-all attitude that pervades this forum in a highly controlling manner. This has been pointed out on many occasions by many people here. These are matters you consistently sidestep or ignore. You offer nothing but the truth? PUH-LEESE!! You practice manipulation all over this forum and you consistently try to bully those who refuse to agree with you. Why should I or anyone else on this forum accept what you have to say as the truth? Your false pronouncements and your attitude lost you the battle for credibility a long time ago.

Sincerely,
Ken Presner

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