Re: The last thing Ron Paul needs is advice from that pair!

You really do have issues when someone posts something counter to what you post don't you?  Too bad you are so sensitive - you have a history of mostly useful posts here on CureZone.  We SHOULD be on the same side here.  Like you, I too was once duped by Laibow/Stubblebine - imagine my embarassment and the taste of fresh crow after I posted on that foul group's behalf both here at Curezone and at the Yahoo health group I host and moderate.

Evidently UNLIKE you, I was willing to look at the facts, do some investigating and then admit that I was wrong (and no, I did not call up Rima or Bert - after what I found there was no need whatsoever and I wanted nowhere near their sights).

You would have been right at home in the days of the mob mentality, and the rope. So they worked for the CIA. What has that got to do with health issues today? You may be right about them, but you're not going to make the case based on their job with the government.

Oh yes, the insulting style of debate always wins lots of points.  Actually, it is the sure sign of someone who is on the wrong side of an argument but refuses to admit it.  No, I did not make my case based on their jobs with the government, past and present.  I made my case very plainly based on the numerous links to information from some of the most respected voices in natural health today.  Have you bothered to follow those links and read what they contain yet?  If so, your continued protests here stretch belief.

You are kidding us, right - I mean about what the CIA has to do with credibility or trust?  I would have been at home during the days of mob rule and a rope?  Hardly, but YOU wmight have been right at home in the days that the kind storm troopers were leading the Jews off to their new bath facilities.

It's called giving the accused a chance to either make a case that you are wrong, or dig themselves further in the hole.

In this case it is called being naive about what is going on in the world and corresponding with a group whose ultimate masters in the move towards one world government care not a whit about human life, yours or mine.  This is not a matter of the so-called accused being some Joe citizen off the street or the nice neighbor lady who makes apple pies on Sunday - this is an evil group you really do not want to be near or known to.  IF you would but read the links I provided, this is someone with a proven black ops history against movements the power elite want silenced and discredited and this is a pair that is shunned by every respectable health organization in the world. 

You're unbelievable. There is no room for anybody else to say anything about the issue. There is no posting of information, or links allowed if it doesn't pass your inspection. That's baloney. My mind is made up with facts, not somebody elses opinion, or innuendos by sombody that wrote a book.

No, you are incredible.  The evidence has been lain at your feet and you merely sniff it and turn your nose up because you don't like the smell of it and try to pass it off as mostly "opinions".  No, the links provided plenty of concrete facts and incidences, not merely opinions.  And the opinions it did provide were not exactly from your local barber or waitress were they?  No, merely the most respected voices in alternative health today - you know, the them of this forum. 

There is always plenty of room here and in the world for truth.  There is no room here for lies and deceptions about an issue that is so vital to all of us.  Neither is there room for continued ignorance in a forum whose slogan begins with "educating".

In your last post, you're the one that said you had a contact with them. I was under the impression that you were going to make that contact and ask them why they are asking Laibow, and husband for help. I said if you did, I would be interested in their reply. If you have overstated your contacts, okay, forget about it.

I do have contact with them - especially in the Texas offices, and I have contact with Ron Paul's Texas congressional office as well.  That does not mean that he knows me from Adam, or that I have any idea which of his congressional or campaign staff members have been duped like you have been.  But you  can rest assured that I have sent them the information.  Less than half an hour ago, I sent it to 18 people in his offices and campaign and another dozen people outside the Ron Paul organization to make sure that their attempt to infiltrate the Ron Paul campaign and use it to further their own agenda is exposed.  

If you want to be the "Curezone sheriff, I don't mind but I will post what suits me, and reserve the right to express my opinion.

I'm no sheriff, but I am a crusader for truth and freedom - especially health freedom and, yeah, I do have a problem when I see erroneous information posted as fact.  I have a very big  problem when I see someone duped into buying into the Laibow/Stubblebine deception that seeks to destroy health freedom under the guise of supporting it.  Already they claim a mailing list of 200,000 people that their massive campaign has duped.  That is 200,000 people whose voices and money and efforts are being misdirected by the enemy when we need to speak as one.

You and anyone else has the right always to express their opinion - but when you do so, you should be prepared to defend it without slurs and innuendo and without ignoring clear evidence and the opinion of world famous figures in the alternative health field that contradicts what you post.

Like I said early on, I believe that you just have a problem with anyone taking issue to one of your posts.  That was pretty obvious to me when you posted information about online and email petitions from Snopes, used it to give advice on what to do regarding one of my posts and then, instead of defending your advice, huffed to "take it up with Snopes" when you were contradicted.

This issue and this forum should be above such pettiness.  As it is, you have taken what could have been a very positive thread for Ron Paul and turned it into a debate about Laibow and Stubblebine, in which I believe you are a minority of one.  Your time and efforts would be so much better spent supporting Ron Paul, as you appeared to start this thread to do to begin with.

DQ