• Testament of Leading Authority on Vaccinology Stan...   BSA Educational CLEW   5 y  1,595  † C †
  
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• What if we paid doctors to keep people healthy?   RN Educational Eric B   6 y  1,338  † C †
  
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  What if we incentivized doctors to keep us healthy instead of paying them only when we're already sick? Matthias Müllenbeck explains how this radical shift from a sick care system to a true health care system could save us from unnecessary costs and risky procedures -- and keep us healthier for longer.
  
  This talk was presented at a TED Institute event given in partnership with Merck KGaA, Darmstadt, Germany. TED editors featured it among our selections on the home page. Read more about the TED Institute.
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
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• Suppression of alternatives by big pharma and the ...   parazapper   6 y  834
  
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  Many here have seen how hard big pharma and the medical industry complex does everything that it can to suppress anything that might erode their profits.
  
  A few links to read:
  
  http://zapperdave.blogspot.com/2018/01/a-short-history-of-electric-healing.html
  
  http://zapperdave.blogspot.com/2014/06/medical-inquisition-into-medicine-and.html
  
  http://zapperdave.blogspot.com/2014/08/medical-industry-prejudice-and-greed.html
  
  http://zapperdave.blogspot.com/2017/07/zapper-success-fighting-sepsis.html
  
  http://zapperdave.blogspot.com/2016/04/cholesterol-is-not-problem-and-statin.html

   
  

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  Director of the Centers for Disease Control Resigns: Who Was Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald?
  Friday, February 02, 2018
  
  "Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) since July, has resigned over conflicts of interest that prevented her from doing her job. Fitzgerald has been unable to testify before Congress because she failed to sell $300,000 worth of health care company stocks that created conflicts of interest. She was already taking heat from members of both parties for holding on to the stocks, which she claimed were difficult to sell without incurring financial losses.
  
  Politico reported that in September 2017, Fitzgerald purchased stock in Japan Tobacco, Merck & Co., Bayer, and health insurance company Humana, creating new conflicts of interest, especially in light of CDC’s ongoing work to reduce tobacco consumption—a mission Fitzgerald has claimed to support.
  
  Fitzgerald was appointed by former Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price, who was similarly forced to resign last September because of his extravagant use of private planes on the taxpayer dime. Also head of the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR), Fitzgerald’s prior public health experience consisted of six years as commissioner of the Georgia Department of Public Health. She succeeded Dr. Tom Frieden, who resigned as CDC director in January at the close of the Obama administration.
  
  A Georgia native born in July 1946, Fitzgerald earned a B.S. in Microbiology at Georgia State University in 1972 and a medical degree at the Emory University School of Medicine in 1977.
  
  Fitzgerald joined the U.S. Air Force, rising to major while serving at Wurtsmith Air Force Strategic Air Command Base in Michigan and at Andrews Air Force Base in Washington, D.C.
  
  Fitzgerald is a board-certified obstetrician-gynecologist who practiced medicine in Carrollton, Georgia, an Atlanta suburb, for more than 30 years. Her medical practice has been criticized, however, for her use of so-called “anti-aging” remedies that have not been approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Dr. Steven Goldstein, a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at New York University School of Medicine, told Forbes writer Rita Rubin that anti-aging treatments are “snake oil” that “plays on people’s worst fears about their mortality.” Calling himself “shocked,” Goldstein stated, “If she [Fitzgerald] was one of these people who was marketing anti-aging medicine, that’s scary.”
  
  A registered Republican, Fitzgerald has said that she became involved in politics in 1986 after having a patient turned down for surgery by an insurance company. Fitzgerald and her husband Tom, also a doctor, have donated more than $25,000 to Republican candidates and causes, including $2,000 to her boss Tom Price, a former House member. She worked as a health care policy advisor for House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Senator Paul Coverdell, both Georgia Republicans.
  
  In 1992 and 1994, Fitzgerald ran unsuccessfully for the Republican nomination to represent Georgia’s 7th Congressional district. In 1994, according to the Atlanta Journal Constitution, she was attacked for allegedly performing abortions. She denied doing so, but also stated that although she supported some restrictions on abortion, the decision should be made between a woman and her doctor.
  
  Gov. Zell Miller appointed Fitzgerald to the state Board of Education in 1996. Fitzgerald was president of the Georgia OB-GYN Society and the director of the Executive Women's Health Program at Emory University. She also served as chairman of the board for the Georgia Public Policy Foundation, a conservative, free-market think tank, and remains a senior fellow. In this position, she argued that individuals should pay more for their health care and save insurance for major medical bills. She advocated in support of legislation proposed by the corporation-dominated American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC).
  
  Gov. Nathan Deal appointed Fitzgerald Georgia’s Public Health Commissioner, a position she held from July 2011 to June 2017. Fitzgerald oversaw various state public health programs including Health Promotion and Disease Prevention, Health Protection, Georgia WIC (Women, Infants, and Children), Office of Pharmacy, Nursing, Volunteer Health Care and Vital Records. She also directed the state’s 18 public health districts. She was known for her emphases on reducing infant mortality, improving language development among babies, curbing tobacco use, and fighting obesity.
  
  She has been criticized for taking money from the Coca-Cola company, which has its headquarters in Atlanta, for an anti-childhood obesity program that urged kids to eat healthy and get more exercise—but strangely omitted any mention of the obesity risks associated with drinking sugary soft drinks like Coke.
  
  Anti-vaxxers do not like Dr. Fitzgerald. On the issue of the alleged link between childhood vaccinations and autism, which President Donald Trump has at times endorsed, Fitzgerald wrote in 2014 that she had “heard all the arguments against vaccination,” and concluded that “All have been debunked.” Citing that op-ed, Jake Crosby of Autism Investigated wrote an open letter urging President Trump not to name Fitzgerald to the CDC.
  
  She is president-elect of the Association of State and Territorial Health Officials, an organization for public health agencies and their staff. She and her husband have two adult children."
  
  -Matt Bewig
  
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• Other Cataract Forums Remove Anti-Surgery Posts   #68716   6 y  833
  
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  I attempted to post information in other cataract forums on the Net about non-surgical methods of treating cataract which save the human lens instead of surgically destroying it.
  
  But all of those posts were taken down within 1 hour of their posting, no matter what the forum. So far, none of this information has remained. The only forum where I have succeeded in posting it is in the Cataract Forum on CureZone.
  
  All of these other cataract forums without exception are pro-surgery, but still, most posters are reporting less than ideal outcomes from their surgery which are often heartbreaking to read. From these other forums all my posts were removed. Whereas, most posters on CureZone are anti-surgery and want to save their natural lens from the knife.
  I hope that those who visit the Cataract Forum here on CureZone, also try to post on these other cataract forums from time to time. Even if your posts are removed, it should make the point that you don't want to be bullied into having a surgery that could and should have been avoided.

   
  

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• How Big Pharma Controls Medical Schools (Video)   Eric B   7 y  1,462  † C †
  
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  Ty Bollinger: First of all you mentioned the fact that we’ve got the pharmaceutical industry. We’ve got kind of an industry driven by money, and we’ve got doctors that are really smart people today, brilliant medical doctors. They’re using treatments that really don’t seem to work as well as some of these natural things. Why is it?
  
  Can you go back into the history of the medical association, The American Medical Association (AMA), and maybe take us back 100 years and stair-step people to current day and explain why that is. Because I’ve heard you talk about this in the past and your explanation is fascinating, and I want the listeners to be able to hear this.
  
  G. Edward Griffin: Well thank you for that. It is a fascinating story. It’s an important story, and I suppose we don’t have time to go into all of it, but maybe the best way here is to kind of back into it to start with where we are and then go back and see how we got there. Where we are today is that, just as you described, these very smart doctors.
  
  Let’s face it, there’s a very selective process there. You just don’t get into med school unless you’ve got a pretty good brain on top of your shoulders, so yeah, it’s the cream of the crop. The best students go into these schools, these medical schools, but they’re not taught anything about natural cures. They’re taught only about drugs, primarily, and drug reactions and the chemistry of this and the chemistry of that. And they have to become really pharmacists in a way; they have to become chemists before they can even make it through pre-med.
  
  So that’s not necessarily bad, but it is a bias. I have come to know a lot of doctors in the last couple of decades since we’ve been working in this field. Many doctors who came from that lair of education and who gradually and sometimes very painfully had to break away from that and go back and re-examine some of these fundamental issues.
  
  Many of them have made the transition and they speak quite openly about it now. For instance, they’ll say, “when I went to medical school we never learned anything about vitamins except we had maybe two hours of instruction on the structures of vitamins and minerals and so forth.” Two hours compared to hundreds and hundreds of hours about pharmacies and chemical reactions and so forth.
  
  I remember there was one doctor, he said, “you know my wife knows more about nutrition than I do when I came out of school.” And that is not surprising when you realize—now we start to go backward in time. How did that happen? The fact that these great medical teaching universities and teaching centers are so great is because they’ve had a lot of money given to them.
  
  Where did the money come from? Now we’re on the trail. You know the old saying “follow the money.” And usually that’ll take you right to it. Well, if you follow the money you’ll find out that most of it came from the pharmaceutical industry.
  
  
  The pharmaceutical industry knows that if they give large grants to these universities they have a double benefit. First of all they have the appearance of being philanthropists. You know they’re doing good things and that’s always—that’s good for public relations. I’m not saying that they’re not doing good things. They probably think they are. But anyway that’s one advantage to giving tax exempt or tax free deductible donations to universities.
  
  The other advantage is far more important, because once you have financed a research project you now have sort of a “first right” to whatever comes out of that research and consequently you can determine in what areas the research will go. I can assure that if I’m a big pharmaceutical company and I give a twenty million dollar grant to a research group I’m not going to be very happy if they start to research whether or not dandelions can be used in the control of cancer.
  
  I want to make sure they’re going to research a drug that I am working on in the laboratories right now. That’s where I want the research to go. So they realize that they can take their own research budget and transfer it to a university or some research laboratory and get a tax deduction for it, knowing full well that if that’s what they’re researching, that’s what the data is going to be.
  
  So I don’t need to go any further. You can understand when the money is coming from a source which has a vested interest in the outcome, what’s going to happen is the outcome is going to be what the donor wants it to be generally.

   
  

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• new year resolution!   #68716   8 y  880
  
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  We invite all eye doctors to make a New Year Resolution for 2017! Don't be shy. Break with tradition, and for the first time in the last 100 years, actually TRY to cure cataract without surgery, and spare the human eye lens from the knife or laser. Go on, be daring, do what a doctor's supposed to do, and TRY. Make a resolution: "This year, I'm gonna TRY to cure human cataract without resorting to surgery, save the lens, and save the human eye in all its integrity! To hell with the $14 billion that we're making from surgery - I don't care any more, I'm gonna do the right thing, and put patients first!" The technology is there. Biologists, chemists and biochemists have, since 1954, come up with a full range of various eye drops that have been found, in animal studies and/or from anecdotal reports, to restore clarity to cataractous lenses. If you TRY to save people's natural lens with these tools, and you fail despite your best efforts, no-one in this world can ever blame you. We certainly won't. But if you don't TRY, that's a whole different story. The world will never know what might have been possible. After all, Hippocrates said: "First, do no harm". He didn't say: "Do nothing, so patients are forced to submit to surgery". Did he.

   
  

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  Elderly dad over medicated   #157665   8 y  1,287
  
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  Firstly I believe my mother to be a hypochondriac by proxy but that's a long & detailed story. My father's now in his late 70's & forced by my mother to constantly see doctors. They have a Physician's Assistant as a main provider but he also sees 3 specialists on a regular basis. They have him on steroidal asthma inhalers,diuretics,Statins,Blood pressure pills,heavy-duty-painkillers,benzos,antidepressant,mood stabilizer & she just prescribed an anti psychotic(he has no psych problems)because she said,"chronic pain causes the brain wiring to malfunction".
  My dad broke down & cried saying his biggest wish is that he didn't have to see so many drs & take so many pills. The PA insists on seeing him at least 1 or 2x per month,weekly allergy shots,visits to foot dr,arthritis specialists,lung specialist & constant trips to the hospital for testing. It never ends.
  The PA & my mom conspire behind his back & my mom insists it's the "best thing to do". I disagree. I'm watching my father literally being destroyed by these medications. What really slays me is a drs 'mistake' killed my maternal grandmother at age 58. He prescribed incredibly high doses of Methotrexate which led to ruining her immune system then led to nosocomial pneumonia. That 'specialist' then FLED back to his native country of Columbia but Gramma's ICU nurse told my mother, that outrageous over dosing of the Methotrexate is what killed her mother.
  We could have saved her life if we just would have payed attention to the 'care' she was receiving. So. my mother places medical provider's on pedestals, thinks they're healing gods & trusts them 100%. Never mind that the American medical system's, the #1 killer of Americans... It's killing me watching this travesty take place & not being able to stop it. She argues with me no matter what proof, I give her that taking all of these medications is bad news.
  I live with immense guilt every day because of not monitoring my grandmother's doctors, closely. HOW can I help my parents? How can I make my mother see that this is a big CAUSE of my dad's "health problems" and not the answer to the problems? Seems my mom thinks that the pharmaceutical companies know best. I could literally write a book of the many various accounts of harm(that I've witnessed)caused by the US medical system & pharmaceutical system but Gary Null already did that decades ago.
  I love my parents and want them to live, a long healthy life. My mom's a good hearted woman, great mom & wife except for her unshakable faith in the US medical system. How can I open her eyes when the killing of her own mother didn't open them? I feel like taking that huge shelf of pills and destroying them. Sorry so long & detailed but I can't even sleep for the worry. It's my duty to protect my parents but...how? Thank-you for reading.

   
  

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  Choosing the Best for a Medical Clinic   boxwiry   8 y  1,436
  
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  I'm with a friend who is starting her own medical clinic. She is currently asking me about the different electronic medical services that are known to most health professionals these days. Perhaps, its because I used to work at the hospital. Anyway, that was years ago and I don't even remember if this new system has been used by physicians before. By the way,to make it short, we just want to hear your verdict about web based software services providers that are worth their price. My friend and I would want to know the vendors differences. We hope you could give us an evaluation about it. Thanks!

   
  

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  Site is a portal for eves dropping doctors ( mainstream Obama Care professionals) trying to find out what to do about the real world and not look too foolish or loose money. I have posted and began to believe in some of what this so call moderator said - this is for people to share stories anonymously. Fake and harmful propaganda and I'll give you the reason! All it does is create "categories of products and people" for marketing .com, no real information is being distributed for the sake of remedying sometimes severe sickness. The state of the news revelation will not permit it. Knowledge is the power , and it has been handed down over generations to a variety in all cultures in no particular fashion or purpose. But some got well from terrible illness' and I have this kind of a true story. I will not be cheated and cajoled into this sham sons of mulotto's. Shows me the check -india ink! Then I'll blow you and the whole assembly apart with vital information about 1st time dfu costs 8k $ 2nd time cost 27k and 3rd time 79k $. Pummel the institution into powdered weed. Go alternative health!

   
  

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  Yesterday, I again visited my eye doctor to re-evaluate my cataracts.
  
  Previously, I had shown her the patent specification on the cyclic amide which was claimed to reverse human senile cataract in just one week. She said she had read it, and was quite impressed. I had also previously mentioned N-acetylcysteine amide (NACA), which had reversed severe cataracts in an animal model in one month.
  
  The following is a brief record of the discussion we had.
  
  Q: Doctor, in view of the fact that there are at least 2 potential cataract reversal eyedrop agents discovered in the last 30 years, which were found to be safe and effective based on animal trials, one of which was also tested on human cataracts already, why on earth has the eye profession done nothing to start clinical trials of these agents? Why is the world population still being denied a simpler, safer solution?
  
  A: I also want to have an eyedrop which I could give my patients, but since there isn’t one, my hands are tied. I am forced to send them to surgery, although I really don’t want to. When you ask patients here and there who have had the surgery - they have a wide range of complaints such as glare from lights, shedding tears, or foreign object sensation. But that’s only to be expected - after all, a plastic IOL is not something natural, it’s a foreign object as far as the eye is concerned.
  
  Why is there no eyedrop? My profession thinks that a simple eyedrop which could cure cataract would be far too mundane, too boring, to be worthy of their involvement. They just wouldn’t be satisfied unless they did the surgery.
  
  Q: Who wouldn’t be satisfied? The doctors, or the patients?
  
  A: The doctors.
  
  Q: I see. Thankyou Doctor, for being so frank.
  
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  I immediately telephoned the helpline of my local health authority, and the following exchange ensued:
  
  Q: I just saw my eye doctor, and she said that despite the existence of eyedrops that could potentially cure cataract, the eye profession thinks a simple eyedrop would be too mundane and too boring, and that they wouldn’t be satisfied unless they did surgery. What do you think about that?
  
  A: Oh, that’s just because they’re making lots of money from the surgery, isn’t it? There’s nothing we can do about that, we have no control over it. We have no authority to tell them what to do. We recommend you approach a pharmaceutical company to see if they would be interested in making and testing eyedrops.
  
  Q: But pharmaceutical companies won’t listen to suggestions from patients, only from ophthalmologists.
  
  A: That’s true. Well, then, there’s nothing more we can do. Goodbye.

   
  

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    The Ebola virus is sooo weak... plain soap and water kills it! If zapping can kill all those viruses and bacteria that have amazing defenses, then Ebola could easily be killed with a zapper. Why waste money on drugs??? Wow... sadly though, if customs is still allowing people to travel there and bring it back here, you may just get your chance to prove yourself.

     
    

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    • Many ppl only need to worry if ebola mutate and go...   Soly047   10 y  3,193
      
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      Many ppl only need to worry if ebola mutate and goes airborne.
      
      Big Q's here. Ppl who died had already some chronic infection or ppl who survived had a chronic infection?
      
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      • Most of the people who die from Ebola are not exac...   parazapper   10 y  3,309
        
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        Most of the people who die from Ebola are not exactly well nourished. However, there have been some fairly well off Americans who contacted it and died. A representative is the first Ebola case in Nigeria.
        
        If you follow the four suggestions that I posted in my article, you will probably have a much better chance of surviving.
        
        The most important thing that I have noticed about the Ebola epidemic is that it is accelerating rather than slowing down. This means that it is very likely to become pandemic by the end of August.
        
        There has already been a number of suspected cases that have shown up world wide. The current rate is over 1.1 infections transmitted from each infected person but will soon hit 1.5 or even 2.
        
        My niece just left Liberia a few days ago ( last week ). She carried and used a ParaZapper MY the entire time that she was there. Not just because of Ebola, she is a zapper user anywhere she travels. She is still using it.
        
        

         
        

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        I'm not sure if I'd rather die of Ebola or have worms torment me and eat me alive. That's pretty sad.
        Ebola can sort of become airborne, but not really airborne. The virus can be spread in water dropplets in high humidity. But that was in animals... assuming humans might be the same?

         
        

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          Sneezing can theoretically make it airborne as the virus can be in the liquid air droplets from the sneeze. I think our best defense is blood electrification since it has proved to be effective on every other virus.

           
          

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