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HELP! Flukes? Mucus? Alien parasite? Cancer? Am I going crazy? Pretty sure I’m not crazy.
Can someone help me identify these things? I originally thought they were tapeworms. I kept a sample and gave it to the lab at my dr clinic. They did crypto and giardia antigen tests and were negative. They say they did an O&P test but I haven’t seen the results. Later was told it was negative also. But I knew something was alive because I could feel them moving. Then they started to look different. I started researching and they look like flukes to me. I sent a second sample but this time they looked identifiable to the naked eye. Same results. Also did blood work with showed elevated liver results and infection. I did have an infection and was taking Antibiotics when they started coming out. Then my doc prescribed praziquantel. I am so frustrated. I can’t get any answers. I have started to look for natural ways to deal with this and so here I am. Help will be greatly appreciated.
I forgot to mention that it started with severe anal pain. To which I found out I have two fissures and Pilonidal sinus. And I also discovered dozens of flukes in my kitchen sink p-trap. https://www.curezone.org/ig/i.asp?i=111180 upload upload
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Flukes, Mucus, and Alien parasites
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This is a reply to # 2,428,699Flukes, Mucus, and Alien parasites
Flukes, Mucus, and Alien parasites
Good catch phrase.
Flukes are common, mostly unseen unless there are other things going on.
Mucus, Rope worms, slime, sewer, SIBO, SIYO, all of these GI infection things go hand in hand.
Alien Parasites? There are some Cestodes, Trematodes, Marine Parasites, and Play helminths that may look Alien, but Alien?,... No, I do not think so.
The sad truth is that there are millions of undiscovered species and variants. Some Doctors like Dr Blaylock believe less than 2% of parasites can be tested positive. I myself had pictures, the tests were negative. The Infectious Disease Guy I found that wanted to treat, ran when he saw the pictures of many species. There is a point, where even the few doctors that are in the know, will not get involved.
Finally I got a positive for Ascaris on my third try, Wife was now in the boat, and understood, and then I gave up on tests for a long while. Started Educating.
The Truth:
So the tests barely work, even if you have an eyeball identification. I am sorry to say that the meds barely work as well. Having shared my experience with others over the years, we discovered that complicated infections cause such a stress on the body, the meds become ineffective, unless everything is done right.
I had over a dozen species of parasites. Curing these infections took an effort beyond imagination, and I still have a few species left.
The possible scope of the treatment:
Using Minerals, Metals, Amino Acids and Foods...
Using Antiparasitic meds, Co-factor meds, and Co-medications...
Using and activating metabolic processes, the Citric Cycle, Urea Cycle, others..
Simultaneously taking meds for other worm types, flat, red, white...
Detoxing, and Amping up pathways..
Controlling Ph. Alkaline processes...
And of course taking vitamins...
And in a specific sequence..
Then an only then can you cure parasitic infections, one by one.
So ...
Education:
It takes education, and a lot of perseverance to clear infections.
The way to get started is to get in communications with others, that have gone through what you are facing, and gotten thru it successfully.
These are mentors.
Set up your communications group, have an outlet for both technical and emotional baggage. Get rid of it.
If you cannot get family support, at least keep relationships in tact if possible.
Watch the finances.
Getting good pictures can help save a lot of misdirection. Use a macro-zoom camera, wash and isolate parasites. Get identification if possible.
All that gloom and doom stuff said, Many get lucky.
Getting Started:
So, here is how to directly proceed.
Take your peripheral Ph., by touching Litmus paper under your "tongue" , upon first rising from bed, no food or drink.
The bottom of the tongue is best.
If your Ph. is above 6.5 then you can proceed.
If your Ph. is below 6.5 then get an essential hair and mineral hair analysis performed.
It looks at key essential minerals and metals to give an idea of your mineral status, stress on the body, immune system metals.
The next priority, is the liver, unless more is wrong. I started there. I had flat worms, and Flukes, so the first organ in the line of fire is the liver, gall bladder, body balance.
The liver uses most vitamins, A-Z. The liver uses sulfur, Selenium, Boron, Taurine, Choline, and other substances. Many Flush the liver.
Since so many people start treating parasites when they are barely alive, Dr Hulda Clark derived a capsule of Magnesium Sulfate, which is aimed at directly intervening in both Magnesium and Sulfur status, to turn people around.
Many have a poor selenium status.
Many have a poor overall status.
Start supplementing RDA levels of supplements. I use Now Foods Daily Vits 3770, and Source of life NTP035. These two are ideal.
To get an idea of status, I promote the use of challenge testing.
Challenge Testing:
Challenge testing requires Ph. above 6.0, supplements of magnesium sulfate 1030mg...after a while this can be tapered., Magnesium Citrate 133mg, and Potassium Citrate 99mg per day. This is insurance. Take Epsom Salt baths with a bit of Baking Soda.
Take the Daily Vits Vitamin and the Source of Life Amino Food Vitamin.
If your Ph. is below 6.0, challenge test must be avoided until your body is strong enough to take a reaction.
It can take a while, but in its most simple form, for a flat worm infection, the following things apply.
Prehistoric Flatworm Co-Factors:
Castor oil Caps, Now foods, 650mg. Two per day should be enough.
Peppermint oil caps, 320 - 330mg capsules. 6 per day should be enough.
Praziquantel Co-Med:
Albendazole tablets or liquid, typical daily total in day is 4mg/kg/D - 8mg/kg/D. Do this challenge for 3 days, in 4 equally divided doses during the day. Then take Albendazole while (same time) you are doing a Praziquantel dose if you want to challenge flatworms stronger.
Or a simpler method is to just see if you react.
A single dose per day may be enough to see if you have a significant flat worm infection.
The simple 3 day method is:
Praziquantel teaspoon at 6PM in Greek Gods yogurt. Three days should just bring you to a little pain if your infection is severe. If your infection is light it may take up to 21 Days to see a result in the toilet bowl. Have a camera ready for quality pictures that can be used to identify all the species.
To challenge, one just accepts the taste for a few days.
After 3 days, with no reaction, think the Praziquantel capsules method.
The actual dose of Praziquantel "For" a sustained basis is some 25 - 50mg/Kg/D, usually divided into 4 smaller doses per day. 00 caps hold 600mg of Prazi powder, and 000 caps hold 900mg of Prazi powder.
A 100kgs person may take 3-4 Prazi 000 caps every 6 hours. A 75 kgs person can take 3-4 Prazi 00 caps every 6 hours. For treatment, capsules are best. Again taken with Calcium Milk or Greek Gods Yogurt, Pizza or Cheese.
Vitamin D3 at 5000IU per day. More than that could cause a strong reaction.
If you have a sharp pain in the base of the brain, or between the shoulder blades, stop. Flatworms in nerve tissue need a special slow method, that minimizes risk.
Once you have pictures of the flat worm species you have, you can start a plan.
That is it for flatworm challenge testing.
The Big Picture:
Red worm challenge tests involve Invermectin and Fenbendazole or oxfendazole. These challenge tests requires a lot of education and preparation.
White worm challenge tests involve oxibendazole. Primarily one looks for Ascaris, or Larger Canis or Catus worms. These challenge tests requires a lot of education and preparation.
Pyrantel (like PinX) can be taken per the box instructions, for a single day dose. This kind of establishes any intestine red or white worm infection severity, via the results. A huge reaction means a large infection. No reaction means no intestine involvement. The maximum stated on the box is 10mg/kg dose. A good guideline.
While there are many more challenge tests, basic planning can now be performed.
If you are positive for flat worms, and negative for White and Red worms, then direct treatment of flatworms may proceed. Typical cure using Praziquantel takes from 3 months to 8 months, depending on the infection(s).
If there are other Phylum's of parasites present, beyond platyhelminthes, all the phylum's must be medicated at once time, to eliminate flatworm platyhelminthes.
I had flat, white, red worms.
Could not make them budge.
Taking meds for Flat, white, red worms at the same time, lead to a clearing of flat worms.
Plain and simple, if you want to cure, not just play with the worms for years, improve your status, force health, take the meds, keep other infection enzyme influences at a minimum by a little of this or that, and you will generate a cure.
Once in a while, a person has a bad flatworm species, or Asian Fluke, requiring other meds after the Prazi.
Once in a while, a person has prehistoric flatworm species, that require additional Castor oil Peppermint and Ginger Root.
Seldom, there is a failure. Maybe 5 - 10% of the time.
If you react strongly to Flat, White, and RED worm challenges, you will have a fight on your hands, and be prepared for hand to hand combat.
Other than that, getting a cure for Flukes, Tape worms, and other Playhelminths is strait forward.
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Your story changes like the wind. First you were nearly cured. Then you were nearly dead. Then you claimed multiple times that you were almost cured again and had ’just one or two parasites lef ....
Your story changes like the wind.
First you were nearly cured. Then you were nearly dead. Then you claimed multiple times that you were almost cured again and had 'just one or two parasites left'. You keep guessing at which parasites you have and claiming each guess is the correct one. At one point you claimed that medications were the only way to go, now you reverse yet again. All the while you're claiming that you have the big picture framed in your head.
I call bs on a giant scale.
BS
And this nonsense of claiming to feel parasites move from specific locations inside your organs to other locations. The stories just get more and more crazy.
Call your attacks dogs that you brainwashed on me, I could give a F.
The whole point of curezone is to share information, but you had to make a private group so you could brainwash all your zomboids and control the bs everchanging narrative.
Then there are some sane people like sharkman who just posts some good studies, follows through with a two sentence protocol and gets the results. Your protocols are literal insanity.
I feel bad for people who get suckered into your nonsense because you used a few official sounding buzzwords.
That is the big picture.
Gotta go I feel a Tapeworm moving from my brainstem into my spleen. BIRTHING!!!!
To anyone who still has brain activity left: All he is doing is something called shotgun therapy where you throw a billion remedies against a target and some stick. There is no protocol.
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This is a reply to # 2,429,014Thank you Matt for your studies!
Thank you Matt, you are dedicated to keep trying to help people and are much appreciated! Your protocol and ICU's protocol helped me get rid of most of the smaller parasites which was fantastic! Without your help I would have had no hope. I am still stuck with large Tapeworms and flukes that I guess I am stuck with. At my age I doubt I will ever be able to live a normal healthy person's life. Atleast you and ICU are doing research, personally testing out different ideas and meds. And yes, it does work for the smaller infect.Thank you again!! Please keep trying and researching, you have helped many people and this is a tricky situation without any doctors doing anything to help solve it.-
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"I am still stuck with large Tapeworms and flukes that I guess I am stuck with."
My reaction is:
WOW, not the right idea, push it out of your head.
Fight, Fight, Fight.
Over the years I have become acquainted with hundreds of folks.
There is one thing I observe. Those who truly believe they will get better, eventually do. Maybe not everyone, but the vast majority.
It takes guts, and a lot of perseverance. I am the poster child for failures. That Is the only way we learn.
I have felt like giving up, only about two thousand times...
But i never did.
I communicate a lot to those with Flatworm infections.
I developed my first formulas for Flatworm infections.
Over the years, we have used:
Albendazole and Praziquantel, D3, Calcium, (Formula 255 for complicated infections). There is a 255+ formula and 255 final formula as well. Ascaris, Fluke, Tapeworm Formula assumes it is the other worm infections that must be silenced while you are treating flatworms, that is why it uses lower doses of DEC, IVM, Sometimes FenBen, etc.
We have used Praziquantel and Levamisole for Gigantic Flukes.
We have used Ginger Root, Peppermint, Castor oil for Prehistoric Flatworms.
Others are using or testing:
Stage-specific susceptibility of S. mansoni to Praziquantel, Oxamniquine, and Artemether .
Bithionol has been used by several in Europe.
For the liver fluke, resistance to TCBZ was first identified in Australia and appears to be spreading throughout Europe. A combination of TCBZ with either Clorsulon or luxabendazole has been shown to be effective against Six-week-old triclabendazole-resistant flukes.
Other combinations of drugs are active against salicylanilide-resistant F. hepatica. WHO mentioned that the efficacy of Closantel was enhanced by combining the drug with either Clorsulon or luxabendazole when the drugs were used at a fraction of their respective recommended dose rates. The combination of a slightly increased dose rate of Closantel with a low dose rate of Clorsulon showed strong synergistic effect and achieved high efficacy against a salicylanilide resistant strain of F. hepatica aged 4 weeks.
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So.
Careful balance and supplementation with several naturals leads to health.
Challenge testing for common Whites, Reds, Flats allows one to Simultaneously reduce parasite control, while targeting flatworms, or any specific parasite.
Building your formula takes work, with others, groups, insight.
I did not clear my infection overnight.
In 3 months I cleared flukes and tapes, skitzos, large red skins, large orange skins, large yellow skins, tomato skins and then relapsed.
A year later I did it again. 5 month duration..
A year later I did it again, this time for Gigantic Flukes. The formula changed to get these monsters.
A year later I did it again, this time for prehistoric Tapeworms. Totally different formulation, popped out scolex I did not think possible.
So all in all, I spent a total of 4 years, formulating, reasoning, and documenting formulas.
Free from flat worms for years, I still keep an eye on this, new insights are still being generated every day.
I now suggest, with proper dose controls, that 8 months bell curve kind of treatment with Prazi, leads to the best outcomes, for those with white worms, and red worm infections (complicated).
I communicated with one gal who dumped flukes for two years strait, till she added peppermint castor-oil and ginger root.
So getting free means never giving up.
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Hi I’m not sure what you’re referring to but I just started a round of ICU Tapeworm protocol. I’m following it exactly with meds and all. And have enough for a second cycle should it come to that. Are you just taking prazi or are you including the albenzadole and the niclosamide?
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Mattk3,
Thank you for sharing your experiences and the protocols you have researched and used for healing and, your willingness to share them.
Your concise approach to begin the healing journey from parasitic infections is very helpful since many, myself included, are so exhausted that it is difficult to follow complicated and wordy instructions.
I have a few questions if you have the time to consider:
1. What are the other fluke infections that require other meds for treatment in addition to Praziquantel? And, what are those medicationss?
Also, what are the amounts needed for the castor oil, ginger and peppermint?
I have intestinal,lung and blood flukes.
The species that I know for certain are: Nanophyetus salmincola (prevalent on the Pacific NW coast), Schistosoma japonicum and Paragonimus kellicotti (North American Lung Fluke).
There could be other species.
2. As you mentioned, when one has a complex infection involving multiple fluke species along with red, white and other parasitic infections, what are the other medications to include with the fluke protocol?
Example: 4 fluke species, ascaris, hookworm, strongyloides, pinworm, some other long white worm, Tapeworm and protozoa?
3. Do you have any thoughts regarding a situation when a person has an infection in which taking magnesium, B vitamins and any fat increases their venous biofilm activity thus, theoretically preventing them from taking these important supplements and food elements? Some doctors advise these patients not to take these items for this reason.
4. There are actually a lot of people dealing with co-infections involving algae of all things; specifically, for example, Lyngbya algae (blue-green cyanobacteria) and Noctiluca dinoflagellate. These things produce cyanotoxins in the body and can complicate treatment for any other infections.
These are foodbourne illnesses (e.g., eating blue-green algae).
Have you had any dealings with regards to this health issue?
5. The issue of ineffective parasitic medications seems to be a complex issue since there appears to be many causes for the problem.
In addition to the reasons listed, today, there are more problems regarding contaminants being found in medications (e.g., mercury found in praziquantel from Thailand and many other contaminants from medications made in China).
In addition and, for myself, I discovered the problem was caused by high levels of heavy metals/toxins, low body pH and, significant malabsorption issues.
Two of these issues were caused by several specific parasitic infections.
Some parasites (e.g., Strongyloides) embed themselves overwhelmingly into the lining of the stomach & intestines causing significant malabsorption of nutrients and medications.
And, the parasites themselves generate a constant stream of toxins, wastes, pathogens, heavy metals and biofilms which all create, over time, an overly acidic environment in the body which lowers the body's pH status. Some parasites are better at this than others.
I learned this from several Veterinarian conferences in which they addressed an unusual and increasing problem seen in dogs in which the "tried and true" parasitic medications were not effective anymore. They discovered it was due to significant malabsorption secondary to parasitic infections in the GI tract. They determined this by testing to see if the therapeutic dose of medication showed up in the blood work... it did not, which led them to discover the actual cause, which in this case, was Strongyloides though, there are a few other parasites that can cause this.
They remedied the situation by administering Ivermectin subcutaneously. This approach is now being used by some doctors when treating people with severe strongyloides infections or, they quadruple the oral dose of the medication, usually Ivermectin.
This would also explain why essential oils may work better than meds, at times, since they are absorbed differently and penetrate the tissues and cells much more readily, especially if combined with other "penetrants" and carriers that prolong their therapeutic activity and increase their immediate bioavailability/absorption.
I have also learned that high levels of heavy metals and other toxins in the body prevent adequate absorption of medications in which case, addressing this issue with various forms of detoxification and chelation works (charcoal, clays, zeolite, sauna, sweat, lymph drainage, many others).
Thank you for your thoughts and time.
Wishing you continued healing and good health.
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This is a reply to # 2,429,273I sent you a PM. Parasite infections is an educational process, and a method, start to finish. You describe every problem in the book, that all persons with complicated infections go thru. ....
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parasite infections is an educational process, and a method, start to finish.
You describe every problem in the book, that all persons with complicated infections go thru.
In general,
SIBO infections are first.
SIYO infections are second.
Protozoan infections are third
Prehistoric infections,
Flat worm "
White worm "
Red worm infections.
So you peel the onion.
I took a bowl of supplements twice a day, during SIBO and SIYO stages.
Learning along the way.
Took the usual Alinia, Flagyl kind of things.
Then dove head long into flat worms, thinking the liver will be essential to survive this, kidneys too.
Failure after failure, I discovered taking white worm meds + Red worm meds, + Flat worm meds at the same time, resulted in clearing the Flukes, Tapes, etc.
So, I sent you the formula 255, which is the formula I used to break the back of my flat worm infection.
I also sent you the prehistoric formula.
Formula Rev.255 was for me, My first step out of hell.
It is obvious to me, you need a crash course in supplements, manipulating your body, and getting configured to support killing parasites.
Feel free to contact me, I always take time to explain what I did to get into the killing zone.
Once in balance and in the zone, you can start to clear your infections.
Mostly it is getting your body to rise to the challenge, putting in and restoring those things that years of the infections have taken away, making your health poor.
To fight parasites, you must be in good health, quite a need to focus on many systems, body processes, and supplements.
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Balance, Is a subject, on which I have educated many.
Ph is essential, in its simplest form, Distilled water, MSM, Pinch of non-aluminum Baking soda.
Ph in its secondary form, using Calcium, Magnesium, Potassium, the primary minerals the body uses to maintain pH.
Ph in its final form, requires Alkala, Algae, and a boat load of substances, pathogen clearing, to remove the acid processes from the body, alkaline diet, and doing everything right.
Ph. is the first situation that must be corrected and fixed. I tell people that without Ph in the range, you are wasting money on AntiParasitics.
Look at it this way.
Body communications are Enzyme processes.
Ph is is a Log scale, that is if Ph 7 is 100% communications,
Peripheral Ph of 6 is 10% communications between cells and systems of the body
Peripheral Ph of 5 is 1% communications between cells and systems of the body.
No body communications = a dysfunctional body.
PH is JOB #1.
Oils.
No work in the body can be done without an acid + an oil.
There are 10,000 or more oils that bacteria in the gut make every day, to supply the process of the body with oils.
Supplement as many oils and you can, Carbon 2, Carbon 4, Carbon 6, Carbon 8, Carbon 10, Carbon 15-18, Carbon 23, Carbon 51.
Say what?
2 Castor oil, 4 Butter, 6 Milk Fat, 8 Caprylic acid, 10 Undecenoic acid, 15-18 Papaya or POM oil, 23 Sicilian Olive oil, and 51 Coconut butter.
I like Borage oil as well.
Bacteria in the gut makes the rest of the oils, probiotic 255, Ortho.
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(24F) Please help me. 7 years of acne - It makes me want to die.
Hi everyone,
I am in desperate need of some guidance or reassurance.
My backstory:
I (24F) have had severe Acne since I was 16. When I say severe I mean I have had around 30 active pimples on my face every day and my face generally has a redness to it around my mouth and nose that looks inflamed and unhealthy. Generally these pimples are cystic nodules or fugal little bumps, or whiteheads. When I was a baby, I was prescribed 4 rounds of Antibiotics to treat strep throat, which I believe completely destroyed my microbiome before it even had a chance to properly establish itself. Age 16, I was prescribed the birth control and topical as well as internal Antibiotics for Acne with no probiotics, which made my skin explode in Acne to the extent that not a single part of my face was free of it. It made school completely unbearable, and I found being alive very difficult. At age 18, I decided to give in and take Accutane. I took accutane twice, and my acne came back both times - again, I can only imagine how this must have affected my microbiome. At age 20, I was prescribed spironolactone, which worked if I took it religiously - this became a massive source of stress as I was constantly worried about running out. Knowing that spironolactone lowers testosterone and reduces sebum production, I became desperate to understand what was at the root cause of my skin issues and have since been trying to heal naturally. I stopped spironolactone and the birth control pill a year ago, and since have been doing everything I can.
What I am trying now:
For the past 7 months, I have been eating a strict candida diet as I did a test which showed IgG antibodies against candida (ie. past or ongoing infection). I also had a raised testosterone reading last year, which has since gone back to normal levels after adopting this diet. My other hormones are normal. I have no food allergies . For the past two months I have been taking milk thistle to support my liver, which gave me a terrible initial acne flare up but I stuck with it to get the toxins out. I take Thorne SF722, 5 capsules 3 times a day for candida. Three days ago I decided to start painting my face with diluted 15% Lugol's Iodine and DMSO, which has made a bigger difference to my skin that anything else ever has. At this time, I also started taking Iodine internally as per Dr.Sircus recommendation for candida. She suggests six drops four times a day, I am taking six drops twice a day as that seemed like a lot (so I currently take 216mg). I am also taking EDTA suppositories to help my body detox heavy metals, as I read that candida and heavy metals go hand in hand. I take probiotics, minerals to support Iodine and vitamin d and omega 3.
Currently, my skin looks the best it has looked in a long time. At the moment, I have more fungal-looking bumps on my face than anything, ie. dermatitis looking acne and a few whiteheads. My cystic acne has mostly disappeared.
What I need help with:
- Do you think I am on the right track? What are your thoughts or suggestions re my situation?
- I am worried that topical iodine is the main cause of the improvement I have seen in my skin - can I continue to apply iodine ongoingly? I am worried the improvement will disappear when I stop. How can I make sure my skin microbiome gets replenished with acne-preventing microbes - are internal probiotics enough to fix my seemingly messed up skin microbiome?
- Has internal iodine worked for anyones acne - or candida? What was your dosage and how fast did you see results?
- Has EDTA worked for anyones acne or candida? What was your dosage and how fast did you see results?
- Is milk thistle a good choice for acne? It made my skin worse than ever but topical iodine really helped with that - I believe the terrible acne flare up indicated that my liver has really been struggling (maybe its full of candida, heavy metals and toxins)
- Is there anything else I could do to repair my gut microbiome?
Thank you so much for your suggestions. The emotional toll this has taken on me has been suffocating. I feel like I have been living a half-life since I was a teenager. I barely go outside, don't want to see my friends and am incredibly ashamed of myself all the time. I have even had therapy for this and it has not helped at all. I just want normal skin so desperately.View all messages by #299735 on this forum, all forums.-
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Hi. I can imagine some of the challenges you have encountered. So sorry to hear of your difficulties. I sincerely hope this short message is of benefit to you.
Only recently was I referred to curezone.org. I have found the web site to have several issues (sign up, email validation, server busy, etc). As such, I have not been able to peruse the content here. Being the case, I must suggest some alternative Health Forums in addition to what you may find here.
Please go to earthclinic dot com
Click on Ailments (top menu)
Click on Acne
My suggestion is to start reading the cure information in this order:
1 Zinc
2 Hydrogen Peroxide
3 Tea Tree Oil
4 other remedies that may be required if the above does not work.
You may want to back off your current attempts to remedy and start anew with these suggestions.
Zinc is often not mentioned in discussion about Acne treatment, yet there are a large multitude of case reports having positive results from oral and topical zinc use. Your serum zinc levels may be depressed. It is suggested to use zinc citrate or zinc gluconate, as they have good absorbsion rates. As supplements, they should probably be taken with time separation to iron supplements or foods with iron (eg. spinach, pumpkin seeds, shellfish). Please research contraindications and dosage recommendations.
I am confident that you will see exciting results by utilizing some new avenues of treatments/cures, adjusting your diet, and increasing your exercise. Have great hope!
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Acne often means you react to something!!!
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This is a reply to # 2,464,243Acne often means you react to something!!!
The following few lines are the most important information that you were suppose to get from your doctor the very same day you were diagnosed!
If, just in case, you have not gotten any similar info from your doctor, and instead you got a prescription, seriously consider changing your doctor!! Seriously consider that your doctor is uninformed and what he says and does may be dangerous for your overall health and may cause further injury!
People get Acne symptoms on their skin because they are hypersensitive to something.
Hypersensitivity does not always means an allergy.
There are 5 different hypersensitivity reactions, allergy being just one of those.
An allergy is IgE-mediated hypersensitivity reaction.
There are hypersensitivity reactions that are not IgE-mediated and can not be discovered by an IgE patch test or blood test.
People get those symptoms on their skin and those diagnoses because they are hypersensitive to something.
Hypersensitivity is a signature factor of almost all autoimmune disorders. What you are hypersensitive to is your symptom trigger! 2 people can have identical symptoms triggered by totally different triggers. Some triggers are under our control while other triggers may not be 100% controllable.
Diet, cosmetics, soaps, toothpaste, supplements and medications seem to be the potential triggers easiest to control.
How can you identify your triggers?
1. Watch when Acne appears !
2. Make a detail list of everything you ate and everything you touched (cosmetics, soaps, chemicals, foods etc) during the last 24-36-48 hours before the Acne started.
Some people, actually very few, may even react as late as 72 hours after exposure to a very specific food trigger.
Complete list you compose should contain all of your triggers, as long as you are able to compose a 100% complete list. Writing detail diary (everything you put into your mouth) every single day helps !
3. Make a new list every time there is a flare, if ever.
4. Cross-reference lists from the last several flares looking for possible common triggers.
5. Take a special note on the TOP 8, as up to 90% of people with skin symptoms react to the TOP 8.
Yes, you read it right! 90% of people react to at least one of the TOP 8!
That is hundreds of millions of people around the globe using corticosteroids for something triggered by the Top 8.
You are buying your disease at the grocery store, and you are not even aware of it !
The most common food allergens (and symptom triggers) (the Big 8) are
1. dairy, (all cow milk products belong to this category)
2. egg, ( eggs are also a common ingredient in vaccines )
3. wheat, ( includes wheat oil and wheat gluten added to many foods and also to vaccines)
4. soy, (includes soy oil and soy proteins added to many foods and also to vaccines)
5. peanuts, (includes peanuts oil added to many foods and also to vaccines)
6. tree nuts ( hazelnuts, walnuts, brazil nuts, macadamia, chestnuts etc)
7. fish
8. shellfish, shrimps, crabs
Allergic reactions or intolerance reactions can be caused by virtually any food and any cosmetic, but these 8 food groups are the cause of 90% of all food intolerance reactions and food allergic reactions.
Cow's milk is the most common trigger in children. Most formulas contain Cow's milk, and majority of mothers who breastfeed, drink milk.
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Beside food, people with skin disorders also often react to toothpaste, soaps, shampoos, cosmetics, laundry detergent, rubber, plastics, nickel, implants, mobile phones, shoes, clothes, bedsheets, dust, cat dander, dog dander, pollen etc.
Take a special note to liquid products containing MIT = methylisothiazolinone
The preservative – known as MI or MIT (methylisothiazolinone)– is used in a wide range of liquid products like shampoos, moisturisers and shower gels as well as make-up and baby wipes.
Experts say the chemical is second only to nickel in causing contact allergies.
Well-known products that contain MI found on sale in shops included "Nivea body lotion", "Wet Ones" and "Boots men's face wash".
Experts say incidents of allergies are occurring faster than they did to methyldibromo glutaronitrile, another preservative that was banned from use in cosmetics in 2005 after it was linked to an increase in eczema cases.
MIT belongs to a group of similar compounds called “isothiazolinones,” which also include the following chemicals:
Chloromethylisothiazolinone (CMIT)
Benzisothiazolinone (BIT)
Octylisothiazolinone (OIT)
Dichlorooctylisothiazolinone (DCOIT)
You'll find MIT and chemicals like it at low concentrations in most liquid “rinse-off” products.
How to avoid it ? Avoid using liquid products!
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Are there any other factors that can affect hypersensitivity ?
Stress makes body more hypersensitive, so people are more likely to react to milder sensitivities when under extreme stress.
For example, you are mildly sensitive to wheat. When living with no stress, you consume wheat every day, and you get no symptoms on yoir skin. But, 24 hours after a major stress situation (an exam at your school), skin symptoms appear. If you would have known that wheat is your mild trigger, you could have avoided wheat days before the exam, and you would have no symptoms on your skin. And, if you do not know, you just blame the stress.
The same is true for people who get the symptoms seasonally. Or during pregnancy.
Season, temperature, weather, climate, pregnancy, sleep or lack of it etc. may affect hypersensitivity of some people, so people are far more likely to react to milder sensitivities when under special weather conditions.
Hormones associated with menstrual cycle in women can also affect hypersensitivity in some individuals.
Some women know they get more symptoms before or during their menstruation. That is a sign of your body being more hypersensitive during those days.
Artificial hormones from IUD may have effect on some individuals.
Alcohol and Sugar consumption may make some people more hypersensitive due to depletion of DAO (diaminoxidase) and increase in the levels of histamine.
Not sleeping enough may make you more hypersensitive due to depletion of DAO and increase in the levels of histamine.
Negative emotions (depression, anxiety, fear, anger, worry etc) can make you more hypersensitive.
Positive emotions (love, joy, happiness, calmness, serenity etc ) can make you significantly less hypersensitive and more likely to tolerate mild triggers.
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Can an allergy test help discover you personal Seborrheic Dermatitis triggers ?
Maybe, if the test is positive. Negative allergy test is of no value for people with skin symptoms.
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Hypersensitivity reactions and allergies, are they the same ?
You can be hypersensitive to things without being allergic to things.
Gluten sensitivity is not an allergy (it is non-IgE-mediated hypersensitivity reaction).
Gluten sensitivity is not the same as wheat allergy. Wheat allergy is IgE-mediated hypersensitivity reaction. It is a true allergy.
Nightshade Sensitivity can be both an allergy (IgE-mediated hypersensitivity reaction) and an intolerance (NON-IgE-mediated hypersensitivity reaction)
Lactose intolerance is not an allergy (it is non-IgE-mediated hypersensitivity reaction).
Lactose intolerance is not the same as a milk or dairy allergy.
food intolerance is not an allergy (it is non-IgE-mediated hypersensitivity reaction).
Sulfite sensitivity is not an allergy!
Histamine sensitivity is not an allergy!
Salicylate sensitivity is not an allergy (it is non-IgE-mediated hypersensitivity reaction).
You can be sensitive to gluten without having celiac disease (non-celiac gluten sensitivity).
Research the Liver Flushing and start cleansing your liver!
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Can Ashwaghanda make me feel worse in menopause? #180430 8 y 1,090 † C †
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Can Ashwaghanda make me feel worse in menopause?
I'm in my early 50s, have been having mambo hot flashes and irritability (sometimes outrage RAGE!), can't sleep at night, miserable generally. I took a ZRT morning-only saliva test (estridiol, progest, DHEA, cortisol) that showed my estrogen to progesterone ration was low, and that my cortisol was very low in the morning. I'm also hypothyroid. So, I'm using natural progesterone cream and natural estrogen creme, and thought I felt better, Yesterday, though, I added some ashwaghanda, and felt even angrier, almost crazy! Does anyone have any advice? I'm at the end of my rope! (Not really, but sure feels like I just can't get any relief from these hormone problems!)View all messages by #180430 on this forum, all forums.-
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This is a reply to # 2,384,255Hi, how are you doing these days? Have you been able to get your hotflashes under control? If you still have them, I may be able to help you with homeopathic treatment. I experimented on myself an ....
Hi, how are you doing these days? Have you been able to get your hotflashes under control? If you still have them, I may be able to help you with homeopathic treatment. I experimented on myself and have had great success getting rid of them. If you want, take a look at a post I posted on the parasites forum where I explain why I am offering help for free. No cost to you. Contact me directly if you are interested.
best of health to you.
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MY STORY WITH DYSBIOSIS/HPylori/CANDIDA. HELP Salomousa 4 y 1,235 † C †
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MY STORY WITH DYSBIOSIS/HPylori/CANDIDA. HELP
Hello everyone! First and foremost thank you for all the content you guys put in this forum, I’ve been reading some posts and the information in them are unvaluable, you make me feel I can beat this horrible thing called candida.
I’ll try to be as short as possible trying to explain where I was, where I’m at and where I want to be.
I think I developed candida from 4 years ago, after an Antibiotic treatment for treating toxoplasmosis (3 different ones for 2 weeks straight) and to be honest, that was just what ended causing it but before that I was consuming lots of poultry (full with hormones and abxs) almost every day, and I did had some dirty bulks with VERY high carb/sugar intake for long periods of time, eating pizza, burgers, fried stuff, because I’m a bodybuilder and it was hard for me to gain weight the “clean” way, plus I was drinking lots of water while eating and not chewing my food properly..
I did that for 8 years, literally abused of my digestive system, and ended up with symptoms like:
- brain fog/bad memory
- anxiety/depression
- eczema
- bloating
- stinky gas
- constipation
- hemorrhoids
- shortness of breath
- lots food intolerances
- chronic gastritis
- fatigue
- low sex drive
Those are the symptoms I remember back when I was my sickest, so fast forward after covid I tried to figure all this out and fix my life. I had endoscopy, colonoscopy, blood work and nothing found, so I went to the US (I’m from Mexico) and did the GI MAP and Organic Acid Test.
GI MAP revealed HPylori without virulence factors, Dysbiosis (lots of opportunistic bacterias markers high, and some normal bacteria low), and Candida albicans high.
OAT revealed pretty much the same with High yeast/fungal metabolites + high byproducts of the Aspergillus species, high hippuric acid, high subberic acid which is related with fatty liver and some low or decreased metabolism of serotonin, dopamine, norepinephrine and epinephrin.
So now I had answers. I was ready to treat this shit with my naturopath, he put me on a 4 r protocol. First he made me take Candibactin AR + BR, switching them every 4 days with Grapefruit seed extract and Uva Ursi (2 months)
vitamin c
Zinc/carnosine
PYLORISTAT (Nutridyn) (two months straight)
vitamin d3 with K2
L-Glutamine 5 gr w-each meal
coffee enemas daily for 2 weeks
+ Low carb, 0 sugar, 0 fruit diet
And I got 60% better, most of symptoms disappeared but I still had brain fog, constipation, some but less bloating, fatigue, little bit of depression, some but less gas and still low libido.
I was going at least one time a day to do #2 and my poop was looking GREAT.
So he told me this was normal, and told me I still had candida so we needed to go on elimination a little bit more, and told me to start introducing some carbs like white/brown rice or quinoa because I was loosing lots of weight and didn’t have energy.
So I started to introduce white/brown rice to my diet.
Added HCL to the protocol, and I was up taking up to 7 pills without stomach discomfort so Obviously I had hypochloridia prob due to hpylori and Dysbiosis..
Continued with natural abxs, glutamine, vitamins c and D3x and added HCL and digestive enzymes, and some adrenal support like L-tyrosin and B complex.
Digestive enzymes where great, but idk what it was either adding carbs to the diet or HCL, my stools where starting to look fluffier by the day, but I still continued taking HCL because I did felt i had low
Stomach acid because HCL made my brain fog dissapeared, buuut stools were getting looser and looser..
I continued eating carbs (my poop never looked good again but still I was going daily) and then the ND told me I had more candida so he gave me something called Candicidx which has a blend of Goldenseal, Barberry, Pau D' Arco, Chamomile, Thyme, Lavender and Ginger.
This supplement gave me some vertigo symptoms but I still took it, it was strong. I incorporated probiotics which at the moment I haven’t felt their benefit..
So this is where I’m at now, I do feel like a 70% better sometimes up to 80% but as soon as I eat carbs, I start getting constipated and bloated.. doctor told me I didn’t have candida anymore but I think that’s bullshit, there was something in the protocol especially when I reintroduced carbs and HCL which start making my poop go soft..
I’ve read I should focus in Dysbiosis, Liver Cleansing and then moving to candida but I don’t know what to do, I live in mexico so doctors here don’t know shit about this.. I don’t know what to do, I feel like pylori is eradicated or at least controled, but I still have some gas, bloating and constipwtion while I try to incorporate some foods.
Any ideas? What should I do, I’m desperate so I’m willing to go back to keto dieting and elimination.-
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Fresh pineapple juice and papaya instead of grains. Stop bodybuilding
Fresh pineapple juice and papaya instead of grains.
Stop bodybuilding-
I already stopped lifting heavy, but lifting weigh...
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I already stopped lifting heavy, but lifting weights are party of my healing because they give me so much joy, and make me not feel depressed..
I already stopped lifting heavy, but lifting weights are party of my healing because they give me so much joy, and make me not feel depressed..
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This is a reply to # 2,439,021Fresh pineapple juice and papaya instead of grains. Stop bodybuilding Mastic gum for h. Pylori Fresh beet juice or blended or beet salad.
Fresh pineapple juice and papaya instead of grains.
Stop bodybuilding
Mastic gum for h. Pylori
Fresh beet juice or blended or beet salad.
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This is a reply to # 2,439,021If you bulk too much muscle you are shunting blood and oxygen away from internal organs to support extra muscle. Keto should be done by shifting gradually to high fat. High protein keto will c ....
If you bulk too much muscle you are shunting blood and oxygen away from internal organs to support extra muscle.
Keto should be done by shifting gradually to high fat. High protein keto will create problems.
Mexico is known for high fluoride in the water supply. Just a stab in the dark but try the Iodine protocol.
Try to limit iron intake by eliminating fortified foods and lowering red meat.
Add in home made green juice.
If your muscles feel depleted like you're building up too much lactic acid from easy workouts then you're going to need carbs and fruit is the first choice, then tubers, then grain.
Maybe try some good quality masa but use coconut oil.
Post back after you've tried papaya (seeds and all, blended).
Candida is the tip of the iceberg.
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This is a reply to # 2,439,028Currently doing a liver detox support protocol with AMAZING results. - molybdenum 1 mg a day - green tea - milk thistle - vitamin c - Will start on NAC soon. My brain fog is gone, bloating ....
Currently doing a liver detox support protocol with AMAZING results.
- molybdenum 1 mg a day
- green tea
- milk thistle
- vitamin c
- Will start on NAC soon.
My brain fog is gone, bloating too, I can’t believe it. The other day some mucoid plaque came out on my stool.
This made me want to start on Liver Flushing but first I’ll have a Colon/ parasite cleanse.
After that I will focus on candida because IMO candida is the result of all this dysbiosis/parasitic/toxic environment..
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I've had enough of this chronic fatigue and pain. ... ZaWarudo 5 y 1,067 † C †
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I've had enough of this chronic fatigue and pain. Having issues with my liver, is this because of biofilm related infection?
Hello, for about 10 years I’ve been struggling with chronic fatigue and systemic pain along with various food sensitivities (can not eat any sugars/carbs/or starches). I’ve had numerous tests all come back inconclusive about any sort of parasite/fungal/bacterial infections and not so convincing results from metal tests. I am losing my mind because no one seems to be able to give me an answer anywhere I look. I’ve had a comprehensive stool test come back positive for an increased amount of pseudomonas aeruginosa. I’ve also had numerous blood tests come back with low neutrophils signifying some sort of infection.
Any time I took natural antimicrobials it would work for a good several weeks and I would start to feel better, then all of a sudden just stop working and my body would start to degenerate again. It's so frustrating because I'm consumed by brain fog/chronic fatigue and constant pain in my limbs/joints/eyes and my abdomen is always sore. I’ve had a sibo test done and it came back just slightly above normal (according to the test it resulted in still being considered “positive”) for methane-based gas. Now I’ve read that this could be contributed to poor liver function and various other things going on causing methane build up that would also be associated with ibs (which I also have. Lots of difficulty with having regular smooth BM). The doctor I was seeing at the time didn’t seem to concerned over it and concluded that it would be fine for me to even take probiotics.
It was suggested to me by someone on this very forum that it could potentially be biofilm related (which wouldn’t surprise me because I’ve had a rather extensive history of Antibiotic use). About a couple months ago I started taking NAC (1500mg per day) or rotated with a blend of enzymes from a product called biofilmX by vita-aid. Designed to specifically dissolve biofilms. It seemed that the first few weeks were pretty astonishing. I had felt a lot of positive feedback and started taking natural antimicrobials again and started noticing that I was gradually feeling better, albeit very slowly and a lot more sluggish feeling overall (I’m assuming this biofilm is releasing toxins into my system or something). My BMs were doing better and I wasn’t feeling exhausted to the point of passing out every day. Fast forwards a couple of months and I’m starting to notice my bms are once again difficult to pass, and I’m particularly getting a lot of floating/greasy stools almost every day along with infrequent pains in my liver that come and go. I’m starting to get a lot of brain fog again and my energy is once again depleting. I’ve been taking 6 liver support pills that contain milk thistle, schisandra, artichoke, dandelion and beat a day before meals a long with the occasional Swedish bitters. It’s the same damn cycle all over again. I start to get better then all of a sudden a switch clicks off and I start spiraling…
Does anybody have any insight as to what is going on? I’ve never really delved into biofilm related stuff before and no medical professional I’ve talked to seems to have any idea about how to address biofilms. I’ve read that you shouldn’t self diagnose with biofilm because it can become extremely complicated. But I have nowhere else to turn and this seems like it might be the missing key to what I’ve been trying to accomplish for so long. Is there any test I can even do to figure out what biofilms if any that I have?
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I suggest you see a lyme literate MD for testing. In the mean time try some very low doses of cat’s claw to see if you get a strong herx. Metals testing and a lot of pathogen tests are notor ....
I suggest you see a lyme literate MD for testing.
In the mean time try some very low doses of cat's claw to see if you get a strong herx.
Metals testing and a lot of pathogen tests are notoriously inaccurate.
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